San Angelo City Council 9-4-19

[0:00:00] we'll call this meeting to order at 8:34 a.m. on welcome to September the fourth or the fifth it's the fourth okay we're good on the fourth all right with that we will start by having our chaplain prayer if you will please come forward Marcela [Music] good morning everyone that's pray dear God thank you that you promised us there where two or three are gathered in your name there you are in the midst Lord we welcome you among us today and celebrate the gift of life that you have lavished upon each of us we ask that you would open our ears so that we may hear your voice open our minds so that we may receive your eternal wisdom open our spirits so that we may know your you're leading and guidance and open our hearts so that we may receive your wonderful love father we pray that you protect all our cities from active shooters we pray for those that have been affected by this horrible act bring peace and comfort to the surviving families and friends Lord we ask you to send rain to Saint Angelo without the devastating storm and we remindful to give you the praise we asked all this in a glorious name of Jesus amen may I ask us all to bow our heads and have a moment of silence in honor of the Odessa shootings and all that went on this weekend thank you very much with that we also

[0:02:17] want to acknowledge many of us have all of you I think have your yellow ribbon on this morning and that is also an honor of hashtag Odessa strong we know that out here in West Texas we are one and that we are stronger together than we are separate and so whether it's hashtag Odessa strong or whether it's hashtag hashtag was Texas strong we all unite in support of the families and the friends that whose lives have forever been changed so whatever we can do as a community to reach out and support those folks we ask that you do so with that let's have some pledges come forward we've got today our Santa Rita elementary fourth grader Juliana Johnson and our third grade London Johnson were just missing Parris Johnson today aren't we yes come on up here [Applause] today we have two proclamations and recognitions and so the first one will be the proclamation of September 2019 as hunger action month do I have anyone

[0:04:22] here please come forward millions of Americans need supplemental nutritional assistance at some time each month including one in every six Texans the concho Valley Regional Food Bank a member of feeding America and feeding Texas highlights its year-long effort to feed the hungry by observing September 2019 as hunger action month with emphasis on action during this month we can help end hunger one helping at a time the concho Valley Regional Food Bank solicits and distributes surplus food to over 90 charitable food programs in San Angelo in the concho Valley the concho Valley Regional Food Bank has distributed over 42 million pounds of food to its agencies since its inauguration in 1983 and in celebration of its 36th anniversary the concho Valley Regional Food Bank distributes over 2 million pounds of food annually to local nonprofit agencies which are committed to provide aid to the needy of our area therefore I Brenda Gunther mayor the city of San Angelo Texas on behalf of the city council do hereby proclaim September 2019 as hunger action month in recognition of the contributions of the concho Valley Regional Food Bank in the fight to feed the hungry of San Angelo in the concho Valley mayor we appreciate the support of the city in the support of our mission the concho Valley Regional Food Bank is a part of the network of food banks across the country and feeding America and this year's theme which is one helping at a time and we encourage all of our citizens to help us in any way we can to further our mission be that through

[0:06:28] monetary contribution volunteer hours or indeed food donations again thank you so much for your support [Applause] we will now have a recognition of the seventh annual San Angelo cowboy gathering festival and I know that there's some folks in the audience if you'll please come forward or Terry you're in the audience Santangelo cowboy gathering had its beginning in 2012 and his progress done size from a few hundred attendees to over 1100 guests in 2019 and continues to bring guests from all over the USA and overseas each year the San Angel cowboy gathering presents the seventh annual festival to celebrate traditional country music in Western Swing all to benefit a local nonprofit in San Angelo each year our monetary support in the last six years has awarded over 104 thousand dollars to local nonprofits the festival on September 13th and 14th 2019 features over 16 artists and bands many being Grammy Award winners and features a cowboy church service vendors and concessions the festival has brought international state and local awards and recognitions to San Angelo in the music scene over the past six years therefore I Brenda Gunter mayor the city of San Angelo Texas on behalf of the city council do hereby recognize and applaud the 7th annual cowboy gathering festival for its achievement and positive determination to make a difference in our community yes we just want to say thank you to the community

[0:08:37] the mayor and the council and everyone that supports us each and every year we do have another sold-out event with over 1100 folks coming in in two weeks time and so we're excited we're very blessed that we can support other nonprofits in this community because we know what great work they do and we want to be a part of each and every one so we hope that you'll come out and see us thank you so much for your support [Applause] with that we will now go into public comment issues or concerns not on the regular agenda may be raised by the public at this time citizens should speak from the podium address all comments to the dias begin by stating their name and address or single-member district and limit remarks to less than three minutes so again state your name and your address in your SMD area just and each citizen may speak to one item only thank you do I have any public comment well I can't cover it in three minutes but that's okay you know I came from another meeting did you oh my yes only here for 15 years and I don't think I'll make 16 and here's why I come from a different meeting the

[0:10:40] last month and the time even last year from Tom Green County Commissioners for their increasing taxes from it went from three and a half to eight percent and they decreased at seven point nine nine would be and then I come to this meeting last week and guess what we need a tax increase because we're broke I don't believe that you know excuse me but you know it's just a continuation we'll be talking about the budget later and your comments would probably be more suited there well I'm sorry I thought it was all for a public input and that was mine cuz I got to go back to work unfortunately to pay for tax finish your comment we all take that into consideration as we go through the budget I appreciate it thanks I was not aware that the budget was going to be put off to a later date or a later time but anyway the other thing I was going to talk about is these one-way traffic signals that we got at Avenue and Jackson you know you got three three-way stops north east and west so one lane can go in one direction same thing over here at Knickerbocker my favorite place it's the same issue and I've called the city they said well we want to prevent accidents you can't take common sense away from the people and that's what we're trying to do but the other issue what time is going to be the comment on taxation well it's on the regular agenda and so they'll probably be within an hour I'll stay here okay thank you very much is there any further public comment mayor st. Hilton Director of Operations just follow up from last week or the last council meeting when we discussed and in the budget when we were going over the potholes and all the issues we're having of course you know we keep getting inundated and I know you all do as well too on the pothole issues that we have out there and just want want to let everybody know that my guys are we

[0:12:41] continue to work on those just as hard and fast as we can and and you know I keep getting you know comments about well we just need to put more money into it we need to put more money into it and that's not always just putting more money into it's not always the answer it's a it's a it's a larger more sustained problem than that and so and a lot of it you know is due to personnel and my personnel you know we have you know we're spread pretty thin and we're working as fast as we can so these are you know a lot of it is as much personnel as it is funding and so I just wanted to let everybody know and reiterate that we are we're working on them just as hard and fast as we can go their crews are out there every day you know repairing and patching potholes and and of course every day we're getting more of them unfortunately so but again and citizens do need to hopefully keep calling in and letting us know where they are again you know when we have so many miles of street and so so few employees where you know that we're actually actively working on those we're not out actively searching for all of them so please contact us our main number at the street and bridge division is three to five six five seven four two three one or they can go on the C's website at Costa TX us go to the street and bridge division and they can actually there's an email that will go directly to report a pothole that goes directly to our street and bridge superintendent and their staff so that they can be reported and they can get work orders on them but again just kind of wanted to follow up on on that because we we have been getting in a lot of inundation in a lot of comments about well we just need to throw more money at it and again not right now it's not necessarily more monies going to help me right now has the money to do the work you don't have the personnel it's as much personnel as it is anything on the pothole repair at this so do you want a human resource call out right now if somebody would like to come or help feel one of those jobs that you have opens you should they contact that's it thing if you need a job and you want to help fill potholes we can go down to the human resources on second floor city hall and and we will

[0:14:44] be more than happy to review your application so yes ma'am thank you very much thank you do we have further public comment Ryan groves to the city's public information office I'm excited that our office is now fully staffed and I'd like to introduce Lorelei day she's our communications coordinator so she'll be the other employee in our office welcome so today's your first day welcome aboard glad to have you will keep you busy you have done district 6 I would like to hear more about the consent agenda G and H their public comment no further public comment we will close this section of the agenda and we will move into the consent agenda do I have any items that council would like to pull I'm gonna start with Tommy Tom Jerry I item I is being pulled Lucy f F Lane ma'am and Billy item G an item page I got the C the E and what else Billy G and H G and H yes okay with that do I have a motion to approve the consent a consent agenda items ok let me just clarify real quick I've got a

[0:16:46] motion by lane a second by Lucy and the consent agenda that we are approving at this point is items a items B item D item J item K item L item em in and oh is that correct okay with that I have a motion in a second is there any public comment on that motion or that second and those agenda items with none we will take a vote all in favor of approving those consent agenda items please say aye with none opposed consent agenda passes 7 0 we will start by discussing item C consider awarding C F M - Oh 1-1 nine electrical maintenance and repair service to MC electric and authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute all related documents Ron welcome but I was looking in the report to Council it says the bids were selected from licensed electrical contractors and that some of the contractors responded to the bid then when I look at the bid tabulation I only see one contractor so did we have other bidders we did not we only have received one bid at the time of the opening the way work advertised purchasing does that through the newspaper and to the website our website and there were email addresses from many of the contractors that were contacted through an email by purchasing I know that across the city right now Billy there have been many projects that put out for bid for electrical work and in most cases if you get one you're lucky right now they're all very tied up and

[0:18:48] so we have a shortage of electricians right now in this city so it has become an issue as well you want to go ahead and act on that one so Billy would you like to make a motion I'm gonna make a motion that we approve item C all right in a second by lane any public comment with no public comment we'll take a vote all in favor of approving item C say aye aye with none opposed motion passes 7 0 now milk Billy we will go into item E which is considered proving a contract with King consultants DBA construction consulting 3 Inc through T IPs number 1 8 1 101 in the amount of one hundred ninety two thousand six hundred sixty one and twenty cents and authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute all related documents for the asbestos abatement demolition and site restoration at lot 1 block 24 mil Paul edition also known as 7-eleven 713 715 717 and 721 South Oak Street Ron you are on again ability you have questions yes Ron could you tell me a little bit more about this project and also in the report to Council it said that funding is secured and available and I'd like to know where that funding would be coming from okay first the funding is in the general fund as I corrected you just this morning I'm a mistake and it was acquired from I think about 2014 we found some money that we decided to put toward two projects that dealt with demolition and buildings one was the building were 618 parking lot is now station 618 Senior Center and the church that was built by the Conservancy and the second one is this location and we purchased the property the city did many years ago I think 2008 and it's been condemned recently by the construction board with the recommendation from the fire

[0:20:51] department and dangerous buildings and we've gone forward with this negotiated contract because it has to be obeyed the abatement because of the teary eration in the building can't be abated like a typical building we have containment areas and you clean it up and then you tear the building down you have to actually tear the building down and take all the debris as asbestos it has been determined that there is yes there was a survey done prior to it being in this condition we have that and we're asking you to move forward on this contract thanks Ron any other questions for run on this item all right Billy would you like to make a motion then to approve this item e so moved in a second a second by Lucy any public comment with no public comment we'll take a vote all of those in favor say aye aye looking at opposed it passes 7-0 we will move to item F consider ratifying a resolution by cosa DC authorizing the use of sales and use tax funds not to exceed six hundred thirty eight thousand eight hundred sixty one for affordable housing assistance program to assist low-income qualifying homeowners and rehabilitation of residential structures damaged city citywide by the et tornado occurring on May 18 2019 Bob question after school this one is he did Lucy okay Bob I just want you to explain to the public and to our viewers about this as far as you know how to go about it and what it's all about sure because the DC Board asked staff to do an assessment of the damaged by the storm over bradford area and to come back with a proposal we did we assessed about three units have to be reconstructed and about 14 major rehabs so we came up with that $600,000 figure

[0:22:54] and a citywide program but we have people in line ready for a fraction so once this is approved we'll be able to go in there and and try to meet some of the requirements some of the needs that have in those areas to kind of eliminate the slum and blight conditions are being developed over there because of the store I think on right now we're actually we have a list already we've make initial contact once we go through all that we don't know exactly which is gonna cost anything left over we'll be able to go outside that bradford area we have people already that applied for this is the well we have folks on the assessment list yes ma'am not officially applied because all right it says your approval will be able to officially get them on the list and these dollars are dollars that were approved when we passed a half cent sales tax that's correct that there would be money is available for affordable housing is that correct I just cases as part of the affordable housing program yes ma'am okay yes Billy did I understand you our residents outside of the storm damp damaged area eligible for the program as well I mean I'll get their name on the list once it's approved they are but again we try to focus on the Bradford area because that's because the DC Board want us to do so we did the assessment there I know that for other areas have been damaged it goes outside the Bradford area we do have by the way we do have another program that citywide that's helping out that's the roof replacement program and a lot of we had a lot of roof damage so we have that program undergoing right now so they the answer is yes they are eligible I have another question and you may or may not be able to answer this but I noticed in some of the background material that Matt Lewis from the San Angelo area foundation had approached cosa DC you know about you know securing funding to

[0:24:57] do this and like I guess my question is did the San Angelo area foundation match this amount due or did they put something in the pot as well so if we have more than the 630 eight-thousanders at the total that is correct they do have additional funds they have a bit of cumulating some some funding to meet the requirements for those who don't meet our requirements because for us you have to be income eligible that's always the key for our programs so there are folks there who are in fact one gentleman is $400 over and if it's one dollar over we can't help you so those people will be able to be assisted those homeowners will be assisted through the era Foundation funds if possible okay thank you are there further questions for Bob on this issue no further questions on this issue who would like to make a motion to approve item F I may have to approve as presented is there a second a second by Tommy any public comment you Hampton one question how much is going to be given to the Bradford area and as opposed to the others how would you like to address that issue again the 600,000 is again we started with Bradford airy so we don't we're not quite sure we expect to be roughly about 600,000 it'll be about another 40,000 available for outside the area if we've are enough incorrect unless we can get some so much cheap labor and some good contracts we're gonna probably spend most of that in the Bradford area so there'll be some left but right not much but again we have other other funding for looking with programs they can help alright so Steve does that answer your question thank you any further comment before we take a vote with no further comment we'll take a vote all in favor say aye

[0:27:00] aye none opposed motion passes 7 0 we will go into item G which is consider a charity care policy Tina Bryan you're on when a mayor council redone fire chief so what this entails is for the last three years you've heard about the Medicaid supplemental program that we get reimbursed from from the state well they're changing the way they do their configurations to refund that money and to be able to be eligible for the program starting October 1 2019 we have to have a charity care policy in place so what this does it just it's a policy that so we can continue to participate in the state program and some of the main things for it is that it takes into consideration is are the people insured and their ability to pay those are two of the prime factors when you're when you're looking at that charity care policy so I don't assume it was in your background it might be but this is a public meeting so we just want to make sure anybody who has questions about it is a very short policy but to participate the program the consultant has sent us this policy it's one they devised for many of the departments that are participating in the program so it's a fairly generic policy Billy I was just going to say thank you Brian I'm certainly the background information was very thorough but just for the larger audience I wanted you know people who may not read the background information to you know have a picture of what that is because we do get a pretty substantial amount of reimbursement you know through in excess and it's been an excess of a half a million dollars these years and with this new type of configuration they're doing we expect ours to remain at least neutral and maybe go up more so because of the demographics that we serve okay thank you you can think Tina for the good information you got because she's the

[0:29:02] one that sent that to you Thank You Tina Tina thank you we appreciate it all right Mary I make a motion to approve item G okay there's a motion do I have a second a second by Lucy any public comment with no public comment we will take a vote all in favor say aye aye none opposed motion passes 7 0 we will move on to item H consider approving updates to the 2019 water conservation plan as requested from Texas Water Development Board in Allison you're on dear good morning this plan was approved and adopted back in May but we sent those both the plan off to TCEQ and Texas Water Development Board and Texas Water Development Board requested a few clarifications or minor changes be made those are in the background memo I'll be happy to answer specific questions about when I just highlight those okay some of them were to match the consumption class so that it matched the text Water Development Board that we fill out that's Appendix A which is called the utility profile we had used our groupings basically commercial institutional industrial those type of things in the front part of the conservation plan and they wanted us to match those numbers in the back so it's just basically the groupings of our customer work yes and the targets and goals one of our numbers in the 2010 was from the 2009 plan and they wanted us to put the actual consumption or GP CDE gallons per capita per day in that number rather than the goal of what was established in 2009 the other one was while we were adopting this water conservation plan our water loss report was under review at that point and once we submitted our conservation plan our water loss audit was approved at the same time so they wanted us to go back and put in that actual number and then the last one was that our goal is higher

[0:31:08] than what we're actually seeing our customers use and they wanted an explanation for that and we told them that we wanted to keep our goal of reducing the 1.2 percent annually from since 2000 because of if we were to receive any sort of business growth or population growth those type of things we we have room to basically still meet our goals so a lot of just clarification of numbers but no real challenges to the overall record the plan is still the same from what you all approved back in May and no changes to watering restrictions those type of things it was more just the background data in what we see our city using and producing well thanks for that summarization of that I'd have to confess I did not read all 102 pages I did not thank you and I also want to thank you happen to be in the MX City Hall and expand a bill and you know the water conservation giveaway of you know the showerheads and the conservation package it was a pretty active table over there I have to say I avail myself of it so thank you so much for putting that together and bringing that plan forward I and we still have we have 3000 kids total I can tell you that we did not give 3,000 away yesterday and at the annex so we're gonna plan another you know I guess a day of giveaways for those conservation kids and then after that we'll see how our supplies look and then from there we'll see how we get those dispersed but we're still working on getting those out to our customers thank you much I make a motion to approve this I with a motion to approve do I have a second in a second by Harry all in favor say aye aye with none opposed item H passes 7-0 we'll move on to item I which is the

[0:33:13] second reading a public hearing of an ordinance amending chapter to administration and personnel article 2.07 boards committees and commissions Harry did you pull this one yeah would you like to talk I was probably one of three that we're going to do this anyway but from my perspective Theresa do we have a policy that when we have a unanimous vote on an item on first reading we put it on the consent agenda we don't have an official adopted policy but it is our practice that we do that if there is an innate unanimous vote on the first reading that we put it on second reading that doesn't happen all the time but that is our practice that means that if we don't have a unanimous vote it really should probably go on the regular agenda I have any other questions well ma'am I do you know and I think Teresa for sending us a list of the different category of boards with one been an advisory board and there were about five or six different boards that were listed as advisory so when I look through the duties of the different advisory boards you know if different boards have different duties but one of the things that was pretty clear that it seems that it was kind of up to the boards how they wanted to meet or how it was laid out in the beginning what what I read and so some boards were required to meet others you know it said they would meet whenever they felt it was necessary so I guess my question is if one board feels that they need to meet every month why would we restrict them to not meeting every month or if we're to limit one board why don't we limit all the boards and say all the boards

[0:35:17] meet you know quarterly so I think it depends on on the board in the direction they want to go in any comments councilmember DeWitt and what we looked at the five boards that you're referring to were the Civic events Advisory Board Fort Concho Parks and Recreation public art Commission and then water advisory board and in the past the water advisory board had been changed to meet as directed by council and then the public art Commission they made only when needed and the other three are are currently meeting monthly what we found is that the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board their scope is quite lengthy and they have seven major tasks that they're responsible for as opposed to civic events advisory board which just has the three items so we kind of were just trying to look and see what made sense and that's what we came up with after talking to staff they work on policies they review the actual facilities that Civic events manages and so we felt you know if anything maybe three meetings were necessary but we threw in a fourth just to make it quarterly so that's how we came up with the meeting times it seems that the Civic events they have you know what is it five or six or seven facilities that they're responsible for overseeing the maintenance the restoration different projects so they don't oversee those projects really they don't oversee the projects but they have to assess the facilities know our staff assesses the facilities they might prioritize what those assessments are in their minds but I think Ron Lewis and Daniel want to clear that step of course that

[0:37:20] that knows the inner workings of all our facilities that are very well equipped of course to make the recommendations to City Council's so that we can prioritize those items this board specifically as Jillian mentioned a while ago one of the main responsibilities is policies and really in reviewing the four meetings that could be had per year we felt that more than sufficed to to address policy maybe some fees that we'd be looking at in some of our facilities but other than that we really felt that they could do that last meeting that we had we talked about okay they want to meet more they wanted to futur facilities they can do a subcommittee meetings they're not restricted from that whatsoever but on our end as we mentioned last time my biggest concern is staff timing how much time staff has in preparing information for all these multiple meetings that we do have it takes a lot of staff time not just one individual sometimes but as many as five individuals so I want to make sure that we're being as efficient as possible and all that we do so there's one of the main reasons and also being respectful of the board members time as well you may have two board members that want to have meetings every single month but you may have other board members that are wondering why we meet and all that work that's going on these meetings is just information that's being provided to us so again on our end staff we really felt that for meetings with suffice and if they wanted other meetings that could have those subcommittees as well committee meetings they can call it as far as those board members can call those subcommittee meetings you'd have membership as far as quorum you'd have three or less is that correct Teresa that wouldn't meet to review if in fact they want to do walk through the facilities they could very easily do that as well but again on our tongue are our main issues just making sure that we're very efficient with the timing you know when you look at the duties of the different boards and Julia was sharing with me some of those have been changed and I guess I don't have an updated book but who establishes the duties for those boards is if this council it is as council I know that at

[0:39:25] times those boards have reviewed those the policies are established by what have you but it is a City Council that ultimately passes those bylaws and right now really with our bylaws we're trying to make sure that we we're where we have similarities across the spectrum of all the different boards that we have as a matter of fact that was an item that was addressed this past year is is to ensure that there are we don't have one board that has bylaws are totally different from the other boards so there there's similar requirements similar bylaws so that's those are some of the things that we're actually working through and some of the board still bylaws that still come before the City Council for y'all's approval I wasn't necessarily talking about the bylaws but the actual duties because maybe the way we have the boards grouped is not appropriate maybe you know an advisory board is something that would not quite be on the same level and say a Fort Concho museum board because as I looked at that it you know the list of duties was shorter but it sounds like the Civic events board does some of the things that are not listed there that are listed in the Fort Concho Museum board and you know I mean it just seemed to be so many different consistencies that was difficult for me to get my arm around whether I thought this way or what I thought the other way because there was no consistency and maybe there can't be and maybe I just need to accept that but I guess my mind is so literal you know it's just kind of linear and it just looks like differences are being made that I just questioned Billie's kind of touching on the question I had Julie can you do a brief comparison between what she said Parks and Rec and what the Pacific events duties are too so we can kind of see a comparison real quick so for the Civic events advisory board and they advise the City Council

[0:41:29] on matters of policy to the city manager and/or his representative as to administrative matters in regard to operation of the Convention Center foster communications Coliseum bill Aylor senior memorial river stage farmers market city of San Angelo Dorina pecan Creek Park Pavilion and El Paseo de Santa Angela and then it says the Board may enact rules and regulations regarding the operation of the above-named facilities which shall take review after after review by the City Council however the City Council may take action to enact different rules and regulations at any time and then as far as sorry Parks and Recreation Advisory Board the duties are to serve as an advisory board to the City Council in matters of oversight policy and administration relating to city parks recreation programs and facilities with the exception of the Santa Fe Parks for which the Parks Commission shall continued act responsibility of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board include communicating with and making recommendations to the city manager and Parks and Recreation Director regarding parks recreation programs and Senior Services programs make recommendations to the city manager regarding parks recreation programs and Senior Services programs make recommend recommendations to the city manager regarding parks and recreation system make recommendations to the city manager Parks and Rec director and City Council regarding maintenance of parks and park improvements make recommendations to the city manager Parks and Recreation Director and City Council regarding maintenance or of recreation and senior facilities make recommendations to the city manager Parks and Recreation Director and City Council regarding acquisition of physical improvements and equipment for Parks Recreation and Senior Service programs make recommendations to the city manager Parks and Recreation Director and City Council regarding rules or regulations for Parks Recreation and Senior Services

[0:43:32] programs ok it sounds like their advisory board is doing the maintenance oversight looking at what needs to improve but so few events it's more of the staff that's doing that is that correct you're correctly oh why would why would our staff not be doing that in the parks and take that away from Parks and Rec I'm not saying that's what needs to happen we have that board then why is that not a qualification for that board you to you council can make those changes Elaine if that's the the the the way that we want to go as far as the advice a we do receive from those different groups that would take that would take away from staff time if we have volunteers that are on this board in the first place and they're willing to go around and look at the facilities and make those recommendations then that will happen that will take away from our employees having to go through and do that Julian let me ask you a question because we're not talking about all boards right now we're talking about specific board is this conversation going broader than it should because this is not about all boards and a review of all boards functions we have it posted as just chapter to the background was specific but we're okay to discuss this Rick do you want to make a comment I think in this case Daniel stated the process we went through Julia and her team reviewed them and asked us to look at at the options we felt that in this case with this specific board you know they really needed to meet that number of times to cover what they had to cover now in addition to that you know they historically do tours of facilities to help look at those they would need to post those as as another not meeting but a possible quorum I believe is the way you do that or a committee you know they so from a staff perspective you know we can cover the needs as they're defined with those four

[0:45:37] meetings if you want them to do more then that's gonna take additional meeting so you know one of the comments is it will all right one of the comments I would have is the fine is is that in many cases council members appoint people to boards and if you look at the qualifications and many of these board members and you'd say you know um you've worked with them but really are their qualifications very specific to these positions meaning do you have a parks background do you have a recreational background the difference between board members and staff members is the following staff members are quote experts in the field board members are very seldom experts in the fields on these boards in fact some court there's a huge learning curve for many board members because they don't have a background but they are people we like we know someone recommended them but that does not mean they have the same qualifications as our staff does and that's the difference between we use our staff to do the work because they are very specific at what they do they manage parks their background is parks and that's a big difference appreciate that I guess I just wonder why this even came up I mean if we're looking at are we looking at all of the boards and I have to confess you know I look at my list of boards periodically to see if I have a vacancy you know coming up and you know to scan it so I can't keep you know in my memory bank all of the duties and responsibilities of the different boards so you know I just wondered what prompted us to single out civic events you know to change their meeting date in Europe or Theresa you want to add comment to that so

[0:47:45] whenever we first started looking at chapter 2 our main impetus was to add the holdover provision because we had some boards that were unable to meet because as people turned off there was no provision allowing them to continue to serve until a suitable replacement was found so that was the impetus and while we were reviewing chapter 2 that's when the other items came to light so removing the monthly meeting requirements and before some of the boards did not have the ability to cancel a meeting so we were gathering people and doing a staff report update that wasn't necessary just to fill time because we had to call a meeting so there were some issues such as that which kind of prompted the thorough review we know that board members are not going to be there for civic events we can go ahead and there's a lack of quorum that we know about in advance we could cancel a meeting or under this new provision where we could cancel meetings if there was no item to discuss or lack of quorum if we maintain the the same amount of meetings to stay consistent with the other advisory boards we have the authority to cancel that would have to be I would have to be going in and finding out what board members are gonna be there if there is a quorum so can we do well I think the issue I'm having with your question is a very lawyerly issue but the very basis of your question assumes that there is consistency amongst the advisory boards and how often they meet and there's just not the water advisory board for instance only meets when this body asks them a question to meet on the parks board meets every month but that's because we have new programs recreation programs that start very frequently and only when we don't have something like that we need to take to them do we say

[0:49:48] you don't need to meet because of the very narrow scope of what we ask this board the Civic events board to look at you know it's only policies we don't want those to change every every month or every 12 months even these is something else that they get asked about by the city staff that's something that only occurs once a year so because their scope is so narrow it seems more appropriate to have them meet less often but there is no consistency amongst the advisory boards as to how often they're calling meetings now there's other boards that have quasi judicial responsibilities yeah we asked them to meet every month and so it's like the Zoning Board we don't want the developer to wait two months for the next meeting or two the next quarterly meeting so we schedule those every month but even those boards occasionally there's no business and we call them so looking at how that board functions and what there's abilities are is the only reason that we set a schedule I'm still limiting the amount of and I had a problem with this even though I voted for it to get it through this time but I've had some concerns since limiting it to four and only four and not having the authority to say we need we need more than that and calling a meeting for it without having a council member do so we if we still have that provision in there that allows to cancel the meeting but to say if he did I'm okay with I think maybe every month or every other month every month would be too much every other month maybe saying six meetings four to six meetings and having that range in there for them to ill be allowed to meet Danielle ours all we're saying is from the staffs perspective is this is what we feel is required any more than that just because you may have a couple of board members who want to meet every month I think that's really going above and beyond what really we should do as far as board meetings and even when

[0:51:52] you're calling a board meeting even every month staff still has to prepare for those meetings even when we find out that we don't have quorum we still have had staff preparing like it was gonna be a meeting and when that meeting doesn't make then we put set that aside and then we had to go to the next month here we go again having to prepare all over again there's the Civic events they don't they don't oversee fees we do a field review every year I mean we kind of consider that part of the administration in policies of those facilities that they are tasked with reviewing policies and providing policies for but they don't oversee you ever see they recommend we take these to them for a recommendation yes and to us to oversee it's it's just it really is what City Council would prefer from an advisory board and not the other way around it's not the Advisory Board did paid into the city council members only mede it should be City Councilmembers take a look at and say hey we feel that this will suffice these number of meetings will suffice and a lot of times all we can do is staff is make a recommendation based on what we feel is appropriate and that's what we're doing right now is making that recommendation but again it is a City Council decision not a board decision but a City Council decision decision how this can be handled I do have Julian handed me the information on the fees that they do provide you know some direction on increasing its additional tables after 20 chairs after 150 dinnerware fencing forklift linen napkins stage lighting staging risers table skirts table cloths and water and coffee setup okay alright with that do I have a motion wait sure Tom and then right there it says call as needed right so if there's something important that pops up they have subcommittees that can meet as issues arise okay move the time Tommy makes a motion to approve is there a

[0:53:58] second I'll second a second do we have public comment well they're bored they will be able to call as needed or will they have to approach us to call as needed they can do it themselves a subcommittee they can actually do that themselves is that correct Teresa I can call subcommittee meetings but to call an actual meeting of the entire board that requires posting and all of those things it would need to be a member of Council if you're not comfortable with having to wait the two weeks there's nothing urgent this board reviews if it's urgent we won't take it to them we'll just take it straight to you at the next council meeting but if you want them to be able to meet on a more frequent basis I mean there's still the 72 hours notice I would recommend that you authorize Daniel to be able to call a meeting versus you guys but again there's nothing urgent that this board hears if it was that significant or that urgent you guys would be wait let's just a minute we have someone at the podium we have a motion we have a second we've asked for public comment comment Thank You Billy now had a board chair of civic events brought the issue up to our board one of the things that I guess that we that I've heard is whether or not we've been able to meet quorums now we've always make more any time that we've canceled me he's always been staff there councils for whatever reason and we'll just oblige them because if they can't attend what's the point of us coming up here but meeting the quorum now this is the thing so you've got what seven members of the board we've all discussed it we passed a motion asking for eight meetings per month I mean per year okay that's what we thought was necessary to discuss the things and I don't know man you oughta haven't seen you two meeting but do you follow what we talked about I do absolutely impression comes back to me yes okay so anyway so we've got citizens who are willing to come out and serve and the thing is is really what's in question is not the number of times that we meet but what the scope is I think that's really the gist of it because as I've been on this board our scope has

[0:56:01] diminished I mean are we passed bylaws we come vote amid City Council but then an ordinance is passed that contradicts the bylaws that you guys that voted and passed if that makes any sense so I mean for example we discussed the budget and miss James says well that's really not in your scope but when we're talking about fees and we're talking about things that would happen at river stage and the revenue that comes in how do you not how do you separate the two how do you not talk about it I mean I'm not saying that we have it any bases or other than to make recommendations to the board about things that are going on in civic events but I asked the Civic Events Manager do we bring value to you and you said yes and sometimes it's not a matter of you know what the scope is sometimes just when the board meets and we're more consistent in the meetings having the means when we need to and the things that we talked about I think maybe helps him formulate some of the things that he's doing no we're talking about being expert I used to be three minutes is up so you need to wrap it up yes ma'am you know I have been in a promotion business before so I do have a little bit of background that anyways we voted it was unanimous we're asking for eight meetings isn't twelve-year really very much thank you so much mere or public comment yes ma'am Steve Hampton district six my question is how does this affect attendance we did you know if you're not going to meet what's the attendance because there are regulations on attendance so that how does that effect and the other wouldn't they would be quarterly meetings you're taking credit in it you know whether you know those didn't like any other if you change it around your guard you're gonna mess up my schedule okay seven kids you know also there's no you know how can the board call a meeting of its own we have administration absolutely protest

[0:58:05] against the administration subcommittees can meet on their own any regular meeting would Tracy you want to clarify that does it require a certain you know two or three every day if they wanted to discuss an issue as far as calling the other meetings this is an advisory board so you know one of the things when I went in to speak to the sport last week that they kept talking about is oversight and oversight this is not an oversight board we have numerous committees that are oversight you being the most prominent one this is not what the purpose of this board is it's not for oversight so it really is a very limited scope to advise on policies and administrative issues of a designated group of facilities so again if we want there's nothing urgent on this board that couldn't wait for a city council member to actually direct them to have another meeting if we think that there might be a need for us to allow them to meet more than four times a year I would recommend that the city manager be the one that reviews and authorizes that because he's the one that they're actually advising and again you know this is the citizens input to the administration and if you start limiting and requiring and and controlling somehow than you the common man has a right to to give his opinion or or be encouraged or mean be guided or taught otherwise go ahead thank you very much any further public comment Julia before he gets up here is the provision for Daniel - is that something we need to add we'd need to amend the motion I don't feel as cos and I'm on the Civic events board as well I had to leave the meeting the last meeting because it went way over an hour and I already had another commitment to make so I didn't get a chance to vote on the proposal to support the initiative to continue this

[1:00:11] quarterly or quarterly versus monthly meeting I I am on the side of meeting on a quarterly basis as a board member I find that we get into I think it's would be a misunderstanding of what the word advisory means we spent a lot of time talking about issues that really are not in our purview as an organization as a board we get into conversations that get into how we the city should run its finances or how the city should manage its property or that aren't related to civic events and so I as one would say that we could get everything done in a quarterly basis I don't think there's a need for us to continue to be on a meeting on a regular basis this as we've discussed and I think I'd answer any of your questions relative to I just what I just said all right so with no questions so Tom do you want to do we need to vote that down before you make an amendment or what do you want to do are you willing to make the amendment or do you want to vote yes I like to stick with my current motion also make the minute to the city manager has the right to call additional meetings as needed okay that motions on the Tom and Tommy it gets a little Tommy Tom Tom Tommy go Tommy are you I really don't it doesn't matter to me Daniel is that something that's fine with me I mean there had to be a special purpose for us holding a meeting if I review it I'll tell you that right now but I'm okay with that I don't have an issue with that you can make the decision then I'll mend emotion to to have still quarterly meetings with with meetings called if necessary by the city manager and Tom you second that exactly all

[1:02:16] right we'll take a vote all in favor say aye aye any opposed motion passes 7-0 we will move let's see I think that was the last if I'm not mistaken was Cape hold I didn't have that so with that I think we have concluded our consent agenda conversation today we will move into the regular agenda comments regarding items on the regular agenda may be made by the public when each item is discussed as outlined above applicants proponents and opponents are accepted from the time limit above and instead must limit their remarks to less than five minutes there's some new language here all right so we are going to move into item a public hearing and first reading for one an amendment to the zoning ordinance creating a new section 2-1 to River quarter district overlay zone downtown district overlay zone and cultural district overlay zone and establishing standards for development within these zones creating a new section 309 River quarter district overlay zone section 310 downtown district overlay zone and section 311 cultural district overlay zone and identifying their purpose applicability and review procedures rezoning properties along the concho River to apply the River corridor overlay zoning district rezoning properties generally located north of Neffs way east of Randolph Street south of 3rd Street and west of North Emmerich Street to apply the downtown overlay zoning district and rezoning properties generally located north of Avenue a east of Oak Street south of the concho River to apply the cultural overlay zoning

[1:04:20] district and to an amendment to the zoning ordinance revising the standards in Section 211 historic overlay zone and section 308 H o historic overlay zone to clarify when a certificate of appropriateness is required amending section 12 point 4.0 1/7 River Quarter area of the city code of ordinances replacing the river corridor sign review area with a new River Quarter district downtown district and cultural district overlays and repealing article twelve point zero six River Quarter development ordinance I noticed a lot of words and I'm only down to two I got three to go an amendment to the zoning ordinance revising section 301 establishment of districts by providing designations for River Quarter downtown and cultural district overlay zones I hope this is a very meaningful presentation and not just a lot of words and a lot of paperwork and a lot of staff time hopefully something positive comes out of all of this your honor yes give us more give her some more to read nobody give me more is that that we actually shrunk that down if you can believe that this does you may recall you saw this just about a year ago River corridor basically splitting the river corridor into three new districts the river corridor downtown and cultural district some of the discussion at that time was about whether or not to expand the district's so for today we're bringing you is the creation of the ordinances that create these districts we've left the discussion of expanding the districts to a later date and so today we won't be talking about expanding these districts but we will be talking about splitting the river corridor into those three districts so you'll see when we get to the maps if you're not in the river corridor today

[1:06:23] you're not going to be in one of these new districts but some of the areas that are currently in the river corridor will stay in river corridor some will move into a new downtown district and some will become part of the cultural district but the rules will apply throughout all three part of what's the purpose part of what we're doing is setting up for some future amendments that will perhaps have some different rules for the river corridor and different rules for downtown or the cultural district so this is kind of the first step to create the three different districts it also clarifies what can be approved by the staff versus going to the design and historic review commission and I'll give you a little bit of detail about that in a minute it repeals the existing river corridor because we're moving it from the Code of Ordinances into the zoning ordinance the purpose of that it cleans up the procedural aspects because we already have all of the procedures in place for zoning property in the zoning ordinance but because the river corridor is not in the zoning ordinance it's in a separate section of the code that's created some issues with the zoning procedures don't necessarily apply because it's not within the zoning ordinance so that's really just moving it from one part of the ordinance to the other we cleaned up some duplication there were some things under historic zoning that were in two different places in the ordinance and that's often a recipe for if you change it in one place and don't change it in the other then it creates some conflicts so we we just deleted it in one of the two places and left it in the other as well as cleaning up some cross referencing and some numbering and then finally revising some or actually as I mentioned to your question creating these processes within those three districts and historic overlays again that's more of a clean up than change to anything that's currently happening one change that we are making as you'll see is reviewing exterior work that doesn't require a building permit right now if you're in a historic

[1:08:25] district or the river corridor we only review what you do to a building if you need a building permit so for example adding new landscaping or putting up a new fence or repainting your building a different color none of those things requires a building permit and so right now we don't have the ability to review those part of what brought this issue up to begin with was the concern about some of those things happening particularly in downtown where somebody the example that I use is the business that painted their building yellow and green stripes well lots of people came to us and said hey why can't you do anything about that and and this would fix that so that we at least have a review but as you'll see we've proposed a simplified process if all you're doing is painting your building you don't have to go through a bunch of Hoops you don't have to go to the design and historic review commission that will be a simplified process but that process they still come forward there was a landing department they would although if all they're doing is painting and they want to do they want to use a paint that's on an accepted historic color palette that'll be a you come in you get your approval literally while you wait it wouldn't be a you know two three days it wouldn't be a month waiting for the next Commission meeting it would be a very simplified process there would be no fee attached well that's a question we have for you all is whether or not that our recommendation is not to have a fee for that since it's such a simplified process but we wanted your input on that I included this map just so if there were any questions this was the original proposal that included some expansion of the river corridor but as I mentioned today we're not proposing any expansion of those boundaries so this is what we are actually proposing today everything that's currently river corridor you can see that it splits out the downtown again that's already regulated under the river corridor we're just splitting it into a separate district will call the downtown

[1:10:27] district and then you can see the cultural overlay very small right now our goal is to as we discussed with you last year make it match pretty closely with the museum's cultural district which is kind of a larger area here but again we want to bring that back later and why would the museum have a cultural district overlay that is different than what we're presenting instead of making sure that as its presented that everybody is on the same playing field here well that may be a question for another day on where those boundaries get drawn but in short there's some question of one of the things we'll discuss today is how we treat single-family homes do we exempt them completely that was one of the recommendations that came out of our discussions and and much of this area that's in the museum's cultural district are single-family homes and so if we exempt single-family homes then maybe those areas don't need to be in this proposed cultural district okay so I'm going to briefly go through this summary of proposed changes you'll note that there are some things stricken out because we're not expanding the boundaries today the original proposal was to eliminate the Fort Concho and Old Town districts those would have been incorporated into the new cultural district but because we're not doing that today we're not repealing those yet again well because of what district do they lie in well if you're in the current Fort Concho district you'll stay in the Fort Concho district again we want to come back to you to create this new cultural district later on that will encompass not only the existing areas but the Fort Concho and the old town district so you differentiate between the cultural district and the downtown historic district when you're talking about properties they're his story meaning Fort Concho and Old Town's so what's the fine line between which direction in which area they're located

[1:12:29] because they're both historic in downtown district or historic overlays would seem to apply that's exactly right and that's a good question if you're in the river one of these new downtown our cultural districts there's a bar of regulation that you have to meet if you're historically zoned that bar is higher so it's a different review standard and so if you're in both the river corridor and a historic district the Historic District rules or what apply because they're the more restrictive and one of the things one of the changes that this would do is not require that you go through both processes you wouldn't have to get a river corridor approval and a historic approval if you're in both districts you just have to do the more restrictive one that's part of the cleanup in this this proposal I've already mentioned this one about issues that don't require a building permit but again it would only apply to exterior remodeling if you're doing something inside the building these ordinances don't really speak to that it's really the exterior appearance that we're concerned about real quickly what what can be approved by staff versus the Commission we've recommended a few changes to be consistent with some other ordinances we've changed the thousand square feet from 1,200 so if it's if you're building a small little outbuilding for example that can be approved by staff any larger expansion or new construction would have to go to the Commission it also would allow staff to approve signs under fifty square feet any painting landscaping fences walls telecommunications towers that are less than 35 feet and any construction not visible from a public street as well as temporary structures and food parks all of those would go through an administrative review which will be a simplified process anything that doesn't meet those criteria would still have to go to the Commission and I should add that in in any case where there's there's some opposition or staff isn't

[1:14:32] sure whether or not we should be approving it we can always send it to the Commission for their input as well in those cases it also similar to some other changes you may recall in other ordinances this would expand the definition of who can appeal right now it's only the applicant who can appeal this would allow a neighbor who may be next door to the business to appeal if they don't like the decision of the commission or of the staff in that in those cases but it also allows staff to appeal those decisions and those appeals would come to you all one of the discussions that came up with this last year was looking at like for like remodeling if you're replacing bricks with the exact same kind of bricks or you're replacing a window with the same window right now we have no simplified process for that but this creates that like-for-like process which is much more simplified staff review and you all created a lower fee for that review and as I mentioned so did we approve just to refresh our memory did we approve a reduced fee or no fee for like-for-like it was a reduced fee it was not a it was not a zero fee so today if I'm replacing my front door with the same front door I've always had but it's just old and it needs replaced I have to pay a fee to do that that's that's correct seems a little difficult to swallow I think you see part of the issue there is they still do have to come in and give us the material sheets and the descriptions and those things that we review to make sure it in fact is a like-for-like change into the building and so it's they still do have to come in and we review that and so that was the reason that there is a lot of challenge to that okay can Harry just one secondly Jared

[1:16:39] wanted clarification on this we're only talking about the river corridor and the cultural district and in the downtown district when you're talking about replacing a light for like is that correct that's correct any these three districts alright Lane did you have a question or comment actually how long does it take to look at a picture of what they have and and if I press a I'm replacing it with this I think that should be one of those where it's painting your outside of your house get the permit right away in house if you go in there and review it at that same time I don't think I could support a fee for like for like on that alright we'll continue to discuss that I think that's question many of us having now Lucy I think you had a question or comment yes John I just want to ask you what's the fee amount $90 I think that might be going to zero but we'll continue to discuss all right and then it says also establishes a simplified process for reviewing paint colors and there's an established paint color historic palette that is pretty much accepted by all cities in terms of historic color palettes correct that's correct there are standard historic color palettes either through the department of interior that reviews historic buildings but also Sherwin Williams has they're still go to them and they have a historic sheet that they can show you all the colors and so yes anything on one of those historic palettes would be considered acceptable and as I mentioned our proposal would be to have a no fee simplified review for that I just wanted to mention here that the Planning Commission did remit recommend different boundaries for these districts than what the D hrc recommended but as I mentioned today we're not looking at any of those boundary issues so our recommendation is

[1:18:43] to approve all of these amendments as presented but then we do have these outstanding questions if you're only changing the building color and it's on a historic palette should it be no fee another question is what to do about single-family homes a couple of the commenters when this came up to you all before question whether or not if it's my home should I have to go through this process and if so should there be fees and so that's really these two questions one of the suggestions was simply to exempt single-family homes one of the discussion points that the Planning Commission was well what if we exempt single-family homes except those right next to the river so if you can see it from the river then maybe we still care about what it what it looks like so these are really questions for you all in whatever direction you give us today we can make those changes and bring it back on second reading with whatever changes you recommend well why don't we start by answering or challenging or commenting on the outstanding questions before we go back to the previous slide and so we'll start with one no fee of only changing building color and approved administrative Lea I strongly believe we should not have a fee for like-for-like or for choosing a color within the historic color palette the question that comes up is okay so I've now painted my house and it's not a historic color palette now what happens or I should my building because we're not talking houses yet so I've painted my building and it's purple and purples not on the historic color palette what happens well first first of all I think our proposal at least would would still be to have a review process they would still have to come in and show us what they want to do there would just not be a fee for it alright just a fair fight but if they did go out and paint something without coming in and getting approval first it would be our normal

[1:20:46] enforcement process where we would send them a Notice of Violation or contact them ultimately potentially issuing citations that would go to Municipal Court if they didn't follow up and then fix it okay so then does anybody have an other question on one okay an item to exempt detached single-family homes if so all of those not adjacent to the river my personal my perspective is the following is is that we should single-family homes but I still support those adjacent to the old river corridor concept that they have to maintain the historic color palette that River corridor is very important to us in terms of preserving our River the what it looks like how its seen etc comments from Council Lane would you like to comment yes go ahead Tommy John I think this is a I think this is a two-part question it's one question in my mind but has two parts how many how many single-family homes do we have in total in these three possibly new districts do you know I don't you know okay then my other part of my question was do you know how many single family homes are within that River corridor no it's dozens of homes so it's it's more than just a handful but I'm sorry I didn't get those numbers of the total but those people today Tommy that have always had their home in the river corridor have always had to live with the river corridor rule so it would not be putting more restrictions on restrictions that are existed for those homes that are in the river Quarter and

[1:22:47] I think the biggest issue is really in the cultural district not the river corridor district or the downtown district but in fact the cultural district if in fact it's ever expanded the the Howard Taylor expansion versus this road map I believe yes I don't think you would you like to talk yeah I don't think anybody on that corridor would be painting outrageous given where they are we would hope not but you know strange things happen overnight sometimes yeah yeah exactly all right so if you go back then to the the three points do we need to take action Julia on each one of these outstanding questions with emotion or how do you need us to address this overall motion I know it's gonna be I had to read a lot so the emotion could be a lot of words so just being clear if we need to take emotion to address these issues specifically then we move on to something else Harry you're smiling would you make a motion on these three items you can give staff direction okay so we don't need to vote that right do you have the direction well you ultimately will have to vote on this but if you give us direction on each of these and then whoever makes the motion could say you know approve as presented with the changes as recommended I think we'll just take a motion right now Harry I'd like motion as presented including the three opera three items that we have here supporting the staff to do this on the no fee and like-for-like so that would mean no fee for like-for-like or change in building color as long as it's the historic color palette as stated here on this is no fee the example for

[1:24:50] the single-member homes except along the adjacent to the river and no more permit fee with that do I have a second Lane were you second Lane a second that all right so with that let's take public comment no public comment we'll take a vote so all in favor of this motion say aye all right so those that passes 7-0 all right next John does that is that it that's it for all that word I assumed the motion was not just for these but to adopt everything else as presented that's it you're done at least on that part all right so then we are going to item B consider ratifying a resolution by cosa DC authorizing the board president to negotiate and execute a Memorandum of Understanding with the city of San Angelo providing funding not to exceed $13,000 for a project for air service marketing and recruitment services Jeremy you're on okay I need to recuse myself from this the the potential vendor is a client of mine already warning council mayor staff good morning Jeremy Val guards and representing the San Angelo Airport today Bryan Drive slides well I'm excited to stand here and present this proposal to you today it's always exciting we try and grow the airport as you know we're working through the master plan at the airport the part of the master plan is to take a real in-depth look at capacity and demand and so looking at the terminal does the terminal runways and taxiways built big enough is a large enough to handle a second airline or additional air service and so fortunately the FAA paid for the majority of this study because these air service studies can get quite expensive but the FAA paid for most of the data to be collected to see if we would need a

[1:26:53] second airline or additional air service over the next five ten 20 year plan now a lot of you have already seen the numbers they're pretty astonishing but San Angelo is set we're in a very good position for a second airliner for additional air service we've reached out to the public we've had public meetings throughout the master plan and it never fails at the end of every meeting we have open questions they always say why don't we get another airline or when are we getting another out so the publicus has spoken and they want another route and this isn't a coincidence but just yesterday a study came out it was a non-biased study that said San Angelo Airport is ranked as the fifth best opportunity for adding air service in the lower 48 fifth fifth best out of 340 airports five so this is strictly based off of load factor and profitability and have we posted that with a text message and use social media to get that message out there so everyone is looking at us we have not yet you said it's pretty came out right you said yesterday let's get it so a lot of you've seen these numbers so I'll go through these fairly quickly but here's our load factor you can see the Green Line is Abilene the blue line is San Angelo and the yellow is Midland field so where our load factors are high the line of profitability for the older aircraft they're bringing it now is about seventy percent as long as you're over seventy percent you're making money with the new 175 they brought in it's dropping down around the sixty five percent line so American Airlines their current route is is doing well and making money the RAS and what this stands for is revenue per available seat mile and the black line is the profitability curve and it's also the the airline service cost curve so the higher above that line the more money the airline's making I'm the yellow dots are probably hard to see but this shows 1500 routes nonstop routes and you can see the San Angelo dot now formatted to

[1:28:59] Ellen here with the San Angelo dot we have the highest profitability rate in all the regional airports in the state of Texas and within 1500 miles we're in the top five percent and as far as profitability goes this shows leakage so they took within a 60-mile radius the San Angelo Airport they took everybody's zip code and found out what airport they're actually booking tickets out of fifteen percent of the people within 60 miles of San Angelo are booking and flying out of San Angelo 30 percent are flying out of Dallas ten percent are going out of San Antonio may I ask a question real quick is that based off of the zip code they're living in or the zip code or their credit card credit card now cuz that gets to be a little difficult to read but I noticed this okay just to be clear right and then another ten percenter are flying at Austin so the big picture of it is a family of five can't afford to fly out of San Angelo they're driving to Dallas they're there they're driving somewhere else because our rates our average airfare is about three hundred and three dollars for a one-way ticket so it's expensive a flat of Santangelo so the message we've got is rates are high the yields are high profitability is high and our load factors are high and fifty percent of the people in this market can be captured by a second airliner by an additional rail from American reduce phase yes so we're ranked 30th out of three hundred and fifty as far as our average one-way fare and then twenty eight point two two cents per per seat per mile that's the profitability of the airline out for American so we're ranked 32nd out of three hundred fifty nationwide airports and the highest yields economic benefit so if we are able to land a second airline or even an additional route we're looking at more

[1:31:02] commerce out of the airport additional airline could be ten to twenty more jobs directly at the airport increases competitiveness for federal funding and that will open San Angelo to more business opportunities we've heard from several companies within San Angelo that they need another out to get their people in and out so what are we asking for words we're asking for money from coast to DC or we want to use Costa DC's money to finish out this contract it's going to be in the amount of about thirteen thousand dollars twelve thousand seven hundred dollars for us to finish collecting the data and then to present us in front of some airlines with this data then who would be presenting the data to the airlines so we'll take the consultant with us Landrum and Brown has been doing the financing for the master plan and then a few city representatives and Centurion all right so you're asking for $12,700 to complete the report and then that also pays for making the trip to various Airlines to sell the concept that's correct that's the portion that's an eligible for the FAA to pay for all right do I have further questions from Council and jeremy's the good thing Ivey ously when you look at the numbers you can't believe someone's not lining up and begging to be a part of the Mathis Field financial Regional Airport so it's amazing we have to go out when these numbers are very available to all airlines correct but we got to do it that's right there's huge opportunity and I think it's something that requires our support so do I have questions from Council to approve I'll and a second by Lucy any public comment no public comment Jeremy stay up here a

[1:33:05] minute let's take a vote all in favor say aye motion passes 6 0 I continually am getting questions about hangars and the need for hangars 1 when can we put up more hangars where the hangar is going to go so do we have an upcoming meeting planned with the master developers so we can move forward on the hangar issues yeah we do in fact I'm meeting with them Friday internally and we got a sketch here that'll be happy to sit down and show you the sketch thank you very much yes ma'am all right we'll move on to item C discussion consideration of body worn camera program for San Angelo Police Department Frank you're on Police Chief Frank Carter please come forward oh yeah Tommy if you're in house come on in he's Chief Frank quarter good morning mayor New England Council I would like to invite sergeant Pierce to the podium to go through the presentation and any questions you may have he's worked on this project for about four years so starting grip like to thank the council for allowing us to be here today my name is Travis Griffith Sarge of the San Angelo Police Department and we'd like to talk to you about something I've been working on for about four years so I'm glad to be here I think I have a presentation that's a PowerPoint we're ready to rock and roll on that down arrow I always go the down arrow or to get started I'd like to talk to you

[1:35:08] about the current state of our department in regards to our digital evidence when I talk about digital evidence that can be any video that we ingest from our in-car systems or pictures that are taken in the field of our officers or crime scene technicians right now we're currently using some antiquated systems our current provider we need to replace a hundred and ten in-car systems that that's been a can it's been kicked down the road for a while and that's kind of where we're at right now issues that we're seeing with our in Carson's is that that we can't buy parts anymore we can't buy that model there's we're really out of out of out of any options in regards to our current system we've been actually buying parts on eBay and even whole systems from other departments that have gotten rid of them long ago so that's that's the battle that we've been facing for some time the current in-car system does not collect adequate different digital evidence and that's just it is what it is we we currently have had issues even getting just simple audio so imagine if an officer goes to a large building to do a an alarm if it goes around the side of that building and that has any type of real structure to that building we're probably going to lose audio it's a lot of sites directly tethered to the car and and so if that officers involved in some sort of situation then that's not a record we're gonna have any audio we're gonna have any video at this time it's difficult to capture even the simplest of so video if an officer is in a low-light area or even if the sun is shining and they're just rotted it completely eliminates our ability to see the simplest of things so I want to dress body-worn cameras are kind of where we're at today the benefits of body-worn cameras go well beyond this but I'm trying to keep your

[1:37:09] time short and sweet I know it's precious transparency is the number one thing we look for we're trying to show our citizens that we are we do this job because we care and that our actions are based off of that we want to see reduction in complaints against officers and pretty much anyone that we've spoken to any cities and sister cities we've looked at they've seen a substantial reduction in officer complaints we've also seen a reduction in I'm sorry increase in the conviction rates so that we've looked at a lot of data trying to establish what was out there and one thing we'll get into the TWI is there's some data it's actually established of increase in DWIs and family violence we see in-car system integrations so right now if we do have a kind of a pilot app a pilot program that we're using for body worn cameras there's no interaction between those two systems so an officer half would have to go in and log on the in-car system provide that necessary data to label that video and then do the same thing on his in-car system so you're tying that Officer up currently in the current system we have in place we need a digital evidence management system right now it's being handled by a sergeant that is in charge of of that that is he is his overtime rate is through the roof right now because he's trying to keep up with a an antiquated system to be able to share that data to the prosecutors and people that are involved and also different vendors that we've looked at the CAD our mission CAD RMS integration system would basically allow for us to be able to categorize the video without the officer having to put his hands on that so the important thing is right now is the state mandates that we manage our videos for certain amounts of time based off of the crime so for instance a DWI regardless of what the what the time for the level of that DWI has to be kept for

[1:39:14] ten years we're maintaining that video everything associated with that case for ten years no matter what that's a state mandate so if we don't label those videos properly under the current system within six months it can get kicked out and we don't want to see a case lost or a victim that somehow gets slips to the crack because of we're not managing that video properly so here's where we're getting that in reduction of complaints and the reduction of use of force and I'm going to kind of touch on this when I say reduction of use of force any time you bring a body-worn camera into the situation when it when it when an offender sees that there you're automatically gonna see a better result and just that the data shows it so you're less likely use force there so I don't want you to think that just we have a bunch of bad officers out there because Rialto California be fifty-nine percent decrease of officers using force that's that's a that's a lot going on there so no matter you could be the best officer in the world you bring a body-worn camera to the situation it's gonna make you think twice about what you're doing keep yourself a little bit more it's like that Jiminy Cricket on your shoulder you know I mean some studies have noted as eighty-seven percent reduction in complaints filed against officers we've looked at trying to quantify the amount of time our supervisors spend taking complaints against officers and without an official complaint and that's hard to do because that happens a lot if people will call in and say x y&z happened and that patrol sergeant will do the review of that and find out what's going on with it so those numbers are actually hard to kind of quantify with with this in place that would be able to reduce that number substantially and puts the supervisor back where they need to be in the field so why is it a necessity I hope that we're kind of covering the ground behind why we're doing what we're doing I'm a big proponent of spending our money where we need to spend it and this is a

[1:41:17] symptom that I think is where we need to be at the body-worn camera have strengthen communities understanding of police actions and foster transparency and the various communities that I've talked to over the past four years we've seen departments and enjoy a much cleaner and simpler transparency with their citizens because if it's recorded it's pretty straightforward you forgive what we're supposed to do we're on the wrong path departments all across America have better relationships with the public and increased public trust with implementation of body worn cameras and the incidents have occurred that could have been controversial or questionable if video evidence did not exist and that's important to remember that in today's times there's a lot of stuff that goes on out there and if we can get that video out there to the public release to be able to show what happened where it's at and kind of the conclusion of that event it can help us as a city and as a community what do you want cameras improve evidence gathering of all tops and I listed this here because family violence is important to me I think that something that we run into a lot and seeing that is if you're able to get in there as a prosecutor and kind of see that victim see the circumstances inside that house that we've never been able to do at this point and as a department it's able to give you a real first-hand indication of what's going on there narcotics investigations also consent searches the state was looking at possibly passing a bill in regards to being a mandatory that's recorded on in-car system I mean on my body one camera so that's coming I think eventually so getting ahead of that would be beneficial for us as a city assaults and shootings of police officers if for whatever reason that officers become incapacitated if we we don't have

[1:43:21] that we're using an outdated system it would be hard to identify that suspect if we have something that's first hand right there with what happened to the officer we'd be able to we'd be able to get that information out to the field immediately to the other officers working attempt to locate the suspect departments have developed many department department that have developed I'm sorry departments that have deployed body worn cameras have seen increases in conviction rates this is the DWI that when we did a research on this we were looking for something to be able to quantify the benefits of body worn cameras this is out of Newport News Virginia they saw about a 20% increase of guilty pleas when officers had body worn cameras there's there's not a whole lot of data out there to be able to establish this is one particular thing that I believe just from what we've done with our paid trial program we have seen it it's a it's much easier working with our district tourney in our county attorney our city attorney in regards to be able to show what occurred on those scenes with the the unit that I work in is called the anti-crime unit we do all of our guys have cameras and as we've seen an increase in our prosecution rates up I believe just off of the the usage of this small deployment so Stan Angelo is one of the last departments in the area that that has not gone full deployment you look at nearby agencies with body-worn cameras and secluded Tom Green County Sheriff's Office the Ballinger Police Department the Texas Department Public Safety Abilene Odessa and Midland all have a local widespread deployment by one cameras this is a current in-car video system these pictures are taken from what we're using today and I show these here because

[1:45:24] this is and I try to be fair I went through and got the best pictures I could find and that we're the fair representation of the system today so as you can see the middle camera is a night view system that's just with a normal light bar running in front of it the one on the left is just a average day sunny blue skies and then the one on the right is a little bit cloudy and you note the one on the right if there's something going on there in that picture to the left in that picture it'd be very difficult to see what's going on at all there is a truck it looks like in a car but anything in between that I'd have a difficulty making that out and those are just screenshots from our current handcar system we have screenshots of what it would look like if you had or other police departments that have these cameras with the difference in the picture quality is what I do have right here is the next slide is this is our current screenshot from a trial program of a body-worn camera we did trial the in-car system and I can tell you that it's just as good as this one we've looked at different providers and we're selective in your vendor later on this is where we're our current trial programs back up a trial is what I've referred to it as this is a screenshot of a traffic stop on the 306 this is the same the same provider the body-worn cameras from our trial program this is more of a residential screenshot to show what you're looking at so imagine if it's your family member or somebody that you're you you care about involving something this would be the clarity you'd see to either prove innocence or guilt in conclusion if we implement we can expect to see improved investigations reduction in complaints enhanced transparency decreased use of force increase conviction rates elimination loss or destruction of evidence streamlines the labeling of digital evidence provides a chain of

[1:47:28] custody and simplifies dissemination of digital evidence so one thing I didn't really touch on is that the with certain provider was certain providers of body-worn cameras you can see that they can trance they can disseminate their videos and pictures in a very simple way so you don't have to make a copy of a video or anything like that you can actually just make that available to the prosecutor to view online I believe it is our responsibility to see display our law enforcement officers with up-to-date tools to capture the inevitable police interactions with the public when this is accomplished it helps foster transparency obtains the best evidence for court and protects our employees as I said in closing I just want to say that the last four years has been a lot of ups and downs we tried lots of different cameras and I think that this is the way we're seeing law enforcement move as citizens actually expect it being one of the only two poor officers that where it's a body one camera it's it's it's a always a topic of conversation today that they expect that they think all the officers have them and things that nature so I I believe that after everything we've looked at that this is a good move for us in regards to moving us into the 21st century the question I have is you've been working on this for four years and I understand that there there have been grants available over the past five years for body cams why have we not applied for these before so I can refer the chief on some of this but what I can say is that the grants that are available are out there and we've applied for I know in 2016 we had applied for one and we're currently in

[1:49:29] the process of the application process now I think there's a lot of infrastructure issues inside the department that we've been looking at and making the right moves when they need to be made and this is kind of where we're at right now early applied for a five hundred thousand dollar grant I believe is 2016 we did get a grant it was typically for the Panasonic camera counsel did not prima blanch yeah is this the same camera the Panasonic camera they are in corridor Panasonic is but we recently applied for a $500,000 grant is that what many of the cities have used as part of their funding for their chair camp I think each city faces their own set of financial issues some cities have chosen to go with there's a state grant there's also a federal grant those are not always as simple as to get and I think in 2017 it was not available so you have to play that as as as it comes along and I know that the chief and the administration is along the city staff has looked at when and how we know this has been coming we've been trying to put a bandaid on stuff that's why we've we've looked at purchases for eBay and things that nature to get us by because we wanted to make the right move and so we want to be able to see a deployment of in-car systems that work with our body-worn systems that ultimately can see a deployment of also weapon systems so those are all infrastructure issues inside our departments that we're facing that they're into life I mean there's just it is what it is I wish there was an easy button to be able to save us some money but well I think this time that we have to do to make that I don't think it's about saving money I think it's looking at all the resources that are out there to help us finance it only then an easy decision absolutely on the other hand I think the big picture is is that the body cams to me are pretty important part of law enforcement and I think we need to be a part of the technology that's out there

[1:51:32] to help us do a great job of protecting the citizens and ensuring that the work that you do is supported by the information provided by body cameras so I do not question the need for this upgrade or technology whichever you want to call it in terms of protecting you protecting the citizens and making sure that we get the convictions that we need when we need them so I'm going to lane has a question I think out of all of the candidates for the companies that you're all are looking at is the preferred one the pictured that we saw I would prefer we don't talk about actual vendors at this meeting that will come back to you and we decide to make a purchase this really should just be about whether or not to be an RFQ or an RFP will they go out yes other source but I would prefer not to talk about vendors at this meeting this is just about policy and I still come at a time when rfqs RFPs are put through right Travis is wearing one right now smile good counsel always looks good oh you're sweet right smart cow what I was kind of getting that question I just have a question question Travis have you spoken to the other cities had they had any problems with the cameras voice them going on the blink all of a sudden or not being able to use them it you know anything like that we've looked at a numerous different vendors and we've we've done in field training and deployment of those to test them out and through that process we've we've seen some issues with certain providers and and without going into details before James gets on to me I can tell you that we've we have seen issues with certain cameras and they're certain cameras that stand out I was talking about is first the other cities you know the police officers in other cities have you spoken to them and had they told you about any

[1:53:34] circumstances that had occurred yes ma'am so I can take just even it locally we had an officer that was doing a trial program with a body-worn camera that he received a complaint and it would have been a very serious complaint and that it almost like a criminal in nature and that complaint was easily debunked for lack of a better word and and and so we see that all over and and and that's why you're looking at a a eighty percent reduction in some departments and compliance because once once you bring somebody in and set them down and say hey here's our here's our body camera we're gonna watch you know in regards to your complaint generally people are like well I didn't quite remember it that way and that's what we found do you know when you get contacted by anybody's like one in the principal's office sometimes you know your gentleman gets up there and you're trying to remember exactly what happened you're just upset that you're in trouble that can happen with citizens and so we want to bring that level playing field in to show hey if our officers are doing wrong that we will handle that and do it was appropriate and if our officers are doing right then we're going to make sure that we stand behind them is for them positive negative to other cities having the hardware at this point is learning from other cities what has worked what is not just recommendations or insight into best practices so Lane did you have another question what I was trying to touch on is we've heard the number one point six million dollars and for the candidates are out there for what we think is gonna be the best quality is that where we averaged out that number or if we just average the kind of cost comparison between them all because what I'm shooting for is the quality when I go buy a tool I'm gonna go and get the best of the best because I know that the quality is gonna outlive I won't get into miss James give me that look so I won't get I won't get into a whole lot of detail but what I can tell you is that we we have looked at we're in a very particular spot some cities just need body-worn cameras right right now we're in the place where we need

[1:55:35] in-car systems and we need body worn cameras and we also need weapon systems so we're looking at what our best option is in regards to who can provide the best quality of if you won't come let's call the tool they wear job and and that's kind of that Gary had a question yes just real quickly you got an estimation on how much staff time you will be able to save by having these body cameras we call commonly referred to as soft dollars we see a substantial freeing up of time to both officers and our crime-scene techs and and our supervisors so right now I'll just give you a quick example of what we run into is a supervisor if we have a pursuit that requires the coachee to be done so that sergeants gonna go and watch that video everybody that's involved well that's if it you get a 25-minute pursuit right then you're gonna have to watch for different officers videos for 25 minutes each with with certain providers out there we're able to watch all four videos at one time and be able to cut that down to 25 minutes so that's just one example in regards to sharing that disseminating our digital evidence to our prosecutors that we're going to see if substantial savings in that area to be able to get that done substantial I can give you that Theresa yeah I'd like to add a component to the the staff time you know the other way that this video is used is we get requests for public information for camera video from cars and right now there's a specific process that you have to request body cam video in a very specific way the public hasn't really figured out what that way is yet so a lot of body cam didn't footage we're not releasing because we're not getting a proper request but what we see in City Attorneys offices is that often it's just more footage that we have to review to determine whether or not that

[1:57:38] nice period actions and those sorts of things before it's released I think that we have somewhat of a buffer against the expanded time that's going to take our office because right now our system is very antiquated and it takes such a long time even to find the right video that were wasting time on that but I know that abilene when I talk to them their City Attorney's Office since I've left hard and additional attorney that's related more to litigation than body cameras but they're considering hiring another one to review body cam footage but they're they don't have somebody in PD helping them so on the public information side cities typically do see some increase in staff time because it's that many more cameras that we need to review and in addition the prosecutor you know she does have to review all of that video for prosecution even at Municipal Court so it's going to add some to her time as well so it's you're not going to see necessary reduction in dollars of employees more efficiency and time that they can spend doing other tasks that solutely what she's talking about I'm a supervisor and that's all he does he's drawing a salary sixty seventy thousand dollars he has to sit there manually look and go through each video in each video requests were paying him roughly twenty five thousand dollars extra a year and overtime just to stay caught him the last time I checked he was some four hundred videos behind to piggyback off your question there Lane we got a bid we have Panasonic in-car videos ironically we got a bit yesterday from Panasonic just that to replace the one hundred and ten cameras in the car was eight hundred and twenty thousand dollars just for the in-car cameras excluding of the tasers and the body cam so just the cameras alone for the car it was that received on an RFQ an RFP or what I'm not sure where that probably I mean that's how they do things and that's one reason that's taking so long is that they wanted to evaluate all these cameras because there are processes where you can avoid the bid process through inter local coops or

[1:59:41] those you know purchasing coops and so in order to utilize a purchase off of one of those for a purchase this big my recommendation to them was that they study a number of cameras to make sure we're not only getting the one that's selling it the best that's actually used the best and I'll say the chief has done a really great job of taking time to evaluate each of the cameras that they are gonna be bringing to you before they actually make a decision on that alright so if I'm not mistaken Council is supportive of finding a way financially to address the issue so at this point then what we will do is ask Tina to come forward and present the financial approach to this and we'll go from there thanks Travis time guys thank you thank you Travis yes ma'am I'm sorry deed discussion and direction related to funding public safety equipment needs yes I don't think we had to take a vote on C riot was just well no vote but just comments good comments good questions good morning mayor council Whitney mister Valenzuela T nadir ski director of Finance I have four here for you here some funding sources for what the body cameras that were just discussed but I also wanted to make you aware of some other needs that are also public safety needs and initiatives first of all the body cameras this is not the total amount that is required per the current quote that we have on file that total amount is just over 1.6 million dollars so the one that slowly again go back and restate that body cameras that were just discussed the proposal or the quote that we currently have on file is over 1.6 million dollars we are proposing here to fund some of that through the regular budget process and so the amount I have here is 250,000 less than that proposing to fund 50,000 of it through the regular budget process per year for 5 years ok

[2:01:47] you have that broken down on another slide so the funding sources I'll have on another slide and so the the other proposal that we would propose for fire department would be an additional ambulance next year at the amount of $250,000 to fund the peak hours ambulance as we have been in the past at $263,000 and then we also have an additional needed funding for the z tron system the amount that we have set aside currently is about $200,000 we are finding all that Buckey or chief done get up and talk if you have other questions about this but this what I do you know what Zeit rania so the public needs to know what it is but in the meantime I will say we have $200,000 currently set aside for that project we are finding that it is going to exceed $600,000 so cut we've kind of just start everything else that we have available from the funding sources that I'll discuss in a moment towards this project but I'll let them get up and discuss what the project is morning council my name is Bucky hasty I'm the IT Director for the city of San Angelo it's kind of a misnomer to call it as a transit runs actually a but that's kind of how we've come to know it kind of like band-aid and stuff like that what it actually uses a fire station alerting system and it allows dispatch when a call comes in to basically press a button and it sends an alert to a specific station and I don't know the details of what goes on in the station I've never actually witnessed it we just support the system but it it can it those lights and gives tones and it turns on the radio so they can jump out of their bed and hear the call while they're getting ready to go to a call so that the actual terms fire station alerting system okay Daniel I think it's even kind of in line this a little bit more about what it does so achieve yeah so the station alerting system as he said there's one of those in each fire station what it does is when dispatch receives a call they'll go through there

[2:03:49] and they'll activate their screen it opens up I'm not sure if it goes through towers Airways but it opens up so they'll receive the radio message telling them what they have the if it's after dark the station will turn into your lights on so if the guys are sleeping at the time to three o'clock in the morning it will turn the lights on for them set off tones it will set off any visual aids for anybody hearing impaired or anything in our engine bays so there's there's flashing lights in there so if they happen to be deaf that they can't see so all this is attached to this system to alert the firefighters and the medics and so the additional we have it in place already we've got a system in place now system is in place now is twenty something years old and when they went to the other CAD system it no longer was supported right now we are currently having serious issues with alerts going out sometimes they do not go to the stations they're having to be radioed out so with the new CAD system being added we were trying to get this new system in place gonna finish wins the new I'm not sure when the new in there no bad systems there's no grant available to help fund part of this I do not know of any grants to fund a learning system Sandra have we looked for anything and and grant funding for this and is our new fire station already equipped with this new system no it does not have an alerting system in in place right now we were waiting to get this in it it's wired but if you put the new system and they need to all go in this across the hall eight stations so we can't put one in there we're waiting to see it was sealed for the new system we

[2:05:56] have the old one at the current station that we would move to temporarily do it but that system does not work with the new CAD system if this is an essential item basically as you mentioned while ago as we're going to a new CAD are in our mess system we need something actually integrates and works well with that so that's the issue at this point as you mentioned a while ago to get call-outs by radio it's a very inefficient way of doing that this would be the quickest way quickest response so it's something that really is essential to the fire department correct it is alerting by radio well like I said what will come through the Airways for them and it'll come through the entire speaker system and the station so no matter if they're out checking out a truck or out on the grounds taking care of the the lawn or whatever we happen to be doing they will hear the message coming across otherwise they would constantly have to carry a radio everywhere they go with them the where this came to light was back in 2015 when the city went to the new CAD system and this one is non-functional with that so for four years it hasn't worked it's very spottily and that's why I'm telling you it is we are having issues where runs don't go through and they have to call the station to say hey we were sending you out on a medical call or whatever so Council have any further questions for this z tron conversation Lucy you do yes chief on this total 392 is that for the whole all the stations you said ESS for all eight stations that's not the total amount that's just additional funding so the actual duck yeah correct all right all right so Tina you want to come back up and continue so these are the the needs that we have for public safety initiatives on the next slide I have some funding sources we've kind of I have actually gone and just kind of scraped and scrubbed together some amounts that come up to the total that

[2:07:59] we're needing to fund and so the first amount would come from the Spillman settlement proceeds in the amount of 1 million dollars that's currently sitting in the fund balance of one of the bond funds and it can be only used for public safety equipment and initiatives so that would go towards body cams yes ma'am police department yes ma'am all of these funding sources combined will go to fund all of the combined needs but yes I would pair that just go through it and say which who's benefiting from these which which requests does this help fund sure okay and then the public safety certificates of obligation funds again the bond funds have built up fund balance through interest revenue and the amount of almost $300,000 again that would be going to fund help fund the body cameras and the uncompensated care cost reimbursement you just approved that charity care policy earlier in the meeting that amount we expect to receive for the current year is about five hundred seventy six thousand dollars they also had about thirty five thousand dollars left from last year's reimbursement and the amount of about six hundred and ten to six hundred twelve thousand dollars and we would propose using that to fund the peak hours ambulance and also the fire station alerting system and then we of course have the equipment replacement fund and the general capital project funds fund balances as in addition to general fund interest revenue surplus those three amounts combined would then shore up to fund the additional ambulance as well as the remainder of the body cameras all right so the funding sources equally two million three two one nine oh one which is equal to the funding requests at two million three yes ma'am yeah those numbers match again I did I'd like you to bounce my checking account that was shoot for incidents Maribel Tony right now sir no I did actually the amount for the fire station alerting system we just kind of put everything that we had left there because we actually believe we're gonna need even more than that and so we're just trying to fund as much as we can

[2:10:00] okay these one-time funding sources do I have questions from Council Perry do we need a motion let me just see if there's any further questions and then I'll let you make the motion Harry any further questions from Council there are none so Harry would you go ahead and make a motion have some more information well they really emotional Isis they want another thing I did mention that $250,000 spread over five years to 50,000 a year would need to be included in our proposed budget that we're going to adopt later in the meeting we proposed that that $50,000 come from what they are currently budgeting which is about twenty five thousand dollars a year for Tasers the remainder coming from the river bank stabilization we did kind of increase that as needed and so we would propose a joint of those to fund the $50,000 per year so we would ask for that amendment when we proposed the budget later in the meeting let me just ask a question as it relates to body cams tasers and car Kym's in this proposal is that purchasing all that is requested or is it something that we're looking at done over a series of years and I only ask this for the fine reasons with everything that we ever buy there's always updates and new equipment new ideas new concepts and so the question mark is is this something that we need to do over two years or three years is it something that allows us to constantly be getting the best equipment the newest equipment instead of buying it all at once and getting what's available today Frank Frank Tracy are you still here I don't want to disqualify the need I just want to know are we better off over a period of two or three years replacing or does that create complications Daniel is my understanding yes mares my understanding that you would have to have two different systems running

[2:12:01] concurrently so you would have a new system plus the old antiquated system so there would be costs associated with that so the efficiencies we talked about a while ago wouldn't be had so that's why they're proposed and actually taking that take a look at all of it right now okay that answers my question and okay so they're just looking for direction here okay so Harry you don't even need to make a motion but certainly I guess no you don't know that we like the proposals and the funding so one other thing I wanted to mention mayor thank you for bringing that up I would bring this back then if I receive direction to do so at the September 17th meeting and ask for formal action to carry these amounts over into the next fiscal year so that they are available for funding all right is there no reason first not to do that today I wanted to get if we wanted to get your consensus and direction before I assumed that you would take that action so we haven't put it on as an action item for today's agenda but just because you haven't put it on as action can we take action and move on no we can't our hands are tied mara in that same item and the next meeting I was planning to bring back the sales tax surplus and discuss carrying that over for Street so I think it will be an agenda item okay on the 17th then we'll move on and what we are going to do is take a break a much-needed break and so I always say one number and then it's a different number when we call it back to order so it's 1048 I'm going to say we'll be back at 11 10 minutes 20 minutes 20 minutes is that enough everybody what we are going to do is call the meeting back to order at 11:07 and we're going to quickly do item a which bob has said it takes less than five minutes because we want to honor our citizens who so patiently set through all of our questions and presentations bottom o consider proving a financial incentive program to promote

[2:14:04] infill development and neighbors neighborhoods targeted for revitalization good morning again following councils direction we contact the ceremony verse to get their input on a possible incentive program for infill development they expressed some concerns one was for the current requirements levied by the city that are burdensome and very costly John is in the process of getting those requirements reviewed and possibly changed and he'll come back to you at a later date to discuss those changes but we need that soon so I need a deadline put to that yes ma'am another concern is the cost of extending infrastructure to Lots that don't have water and sewer of course lots that don't have infrastructure I consider true and film but I said they're considered expansion staff is recommending an incentive program that will provide $5,000 for any infill development in the neighborhoods targeted for revitalization to be used the discretion of the developers will start up with the fun of $200,000 I'll be general funds prospective projects we need to contact my office before beginning construction with payment coming at the end of completion it would be first come first served with no caps on the number of units the program it really can be considered a investment in neighborhood revitalization with a return of investment within five to ten years depending on the cell of the home and the tax valuation and we need a couple of things from you today we need to decide if you want to include lost that don't have water and sewer as eligible properties number one number two of course we will need approval for the program alright so number one that's part of you know some of the areas that are in the revitalization neighborhoods don't have water and sewer I mean that's been that's the biggest expense but that $5,000 could go towards the infrastructure of water and sewer right

[2:16:07] because you're saying it doesn't it's 5,000 per house or unit so they're gonna build six houses you got to bring you through extend the sewer line for six houses that's $30,000 that truly is the largest expense water and sewers and that would help cover some of that extra cost associated with expanding that infrastructure okay do I have questions from for Bob from counsel no I don't see anybody okay so the most you need a motion we do have proved other program Harry you want to do that or Lucy or Tom because they're primarily in your districts I'd like one of you to do that second all right any public comment their question what I heard was support for allowing this to be used where water and sewer before on lots where there was not water and sewer right inclusive yeah other issues but it could still be for water and sewer where there is none yes ma'am all right we clear hold on wait a minute Lane it was not clear to me or there's two hundred thousand dollars is coming from Tina we'll be covering that you want to do it now and we'll cover that when we go through the presentation of the budget ordinance all right Lane did you have a question or comment when you said that example where you had about six Lots would that be five thousand per lot that's correct so and it would run about 550 thousand to extend it so this gives you a good chunk of money to help cover that extra cost all right there is a motion and a second and we've had public comment we will take a vote all in favor say I wouldn't an opposed mash Holly Cathy's gon stop Magic Mike I'd like it to be magic but

[2:18:12] the motion is what we're talking about so that passes 7-0 what's going on okay so we are going to now go into F which is discussion and consideration of matters related to Fisk year 2019 2020 operating budget including one of first public hearing and introduction of an ordinance of the city of San Angelo approving and adopting the budget for the fiscal year beginning October 1 2019 and ending September 30th 2020 this budget will raise more total property tax dollars than last year's budget by 1 million three hundred sixty five thousand six hundred thirty five or three point five eight percent and of that amount four hundred and five thousand one hundred and forty is tax revenue to be raised from new property added to the tax roll and to conduct a separate record vote to ratify the property tax revenue increase reflected in the budget and place the adoption of this tax rate on the agenda for the September 17th 2019 regular meeting the City Council as an action item and what Julia has told me that we will need to do is to take two votes and by that do you mean a vote on item one and a vote on item two separately yes okay two separate motions and the second one will be a record vote where everyone states their name and then for or against the motion okay all right with that Tina yes ma'am again the will first goes to the budget ordinance and the proposed budget that we discussed that the general fund workshop is being brought back to you for this meeting for the first public hearing and then we'll have of course the record vote to ratify the property tax so we included in the budget ordinance that we're proposing the amount of $200,000 for infill

[2:20:14] development an amount of just over $300,000 for River stabilization ninety seven thousand dollars for development services software about eight hundred eighty thousand dollars for salary adjustments at that 2% level and then of course the decrease of about two hundred thousand dollars for health insurance let me just if I could at this moment ask Rick question when we were discussing the riverbank stabilization program we had obviously been presented by outdoors the two hundred thousand dollar issue that was two locations I think all council members had an opportunity to review and we were all like oh my gosh get it done but you mentioned that you had over $800,000 identified as River Bank issues so obviously not now but I just want to make sure we have a plan going forward to understand what is of immediate crisis other than those two spots and maybe some ways Gina that we might find funding to do that because you brought that up at the last meeting and I don't want to ignore your comments that you made and over time we'll need to look at just stabilizing the banks all the way across as we did with the river project through the downtown area and so what we did was identify those immediate needs where there are areas that the river bank is deteriorating so bad it's fixing to damage sidewalks or so forth so we addressed to as a couple we have two more a bid right now we've identified as I said all the way from where we stopped the bank stabilization by Oaks Street all the way back down to the Sports Complex looking at that section and have identified you know several of those and then those are prioritized so what we would do with those dollars is start with the worst ones addressing them first if grant dollars are available like through the TCEQ that we applied last year we try to leverage those dollars with additional funding where we can find those grant opportunities just want to make sure we keep our eyes on it

[2:22:15] and not let it get to the point these are and so every year sort of thing that we're gonna need to keep addressing over the years to come okay go ahead Tina yes ma'am and then I just want to remind you again that we will be including that roughly $25,000 annually for the body cameras so just to remind you I want that to be a part of this discussion and the approval okay so I just want to go through what the budget ordinance does it includes the following provisions it authorizes employee compensation schedules provides for the general appropriation of funds reserves unto the City Council the authority to transfer appropriations budget ratifying transfers of appropriations occurring in the fy2014 Lea and it provides for laps of all unencumbered or unobligated funds for the prior fiscal year for carryovers of appropriations of encumbered obligated or restricted funds it so Teresa that sounds very legalish just want to make sure it sounds very legal they have that statement so I just need to know if there's any issues that need to be pointed out relative to that line oh no we review all of this part even presenting it to you so it's all fun yes it also reserves under the City Council the power only is permitted by law to amend or make changes to the budget it provides Authority for the city manager or his designee to make certain adjustments from time to time within the budget it authorizes the city manager has designee to apply for and accept certain grants and execute any related documents and it provides for the filing of the budget and city manager are you okay with all of that ma'am I have been and it's really no change though no problem these are all things that you've approved in the past as a council and we just like to bring it to your attention since it is part of the ordinance okay so do I have questions comments input on anything that Tina has brought forward on this Tom you look like you're

[2:24:19] studying something we carry carryover and we were always had the carryover lecture went to sit can we do something to make expedite that process and we just had to deal when it comes well she's going to present that on the September 17th meeting and the difference is compared to past year was that we had already made a general statement that we would support the additional sales tax revenue going to Street I don't know that we have in them maybe will tell us in if we have to get more specific about what we mean was that or is it any funds that are already encumbered and obligated or restricted in the current year will be automatically carried over anything that is by Department request to carry over funds into the next fiscal year that would come back to you and November December and like I said at the September 17th meeting I will come back and ask you for a specific direction so that I can automatically carry over the sales tax surplus for streets or whatever you decide as well as the funding for Public Safety okay that should make that process a little smoother okay any further questions or comments alright move forward so this is the end of the budget portions of up to you if you want to go ahead and take the vote on this portion and then move to the next section or we can do it all in I want to make sure is this an appropriate time to allow for some public comment I don't have a motion on the floor but I don't want the tax rate is the next item and I don't know which item okay so go ahead okay go ahead okay so I guess I if we're going to take a vote on the budget ordinance to be adopted as presented with those adjustments for the public safety it is on this one do I need each individual person on f1 this is a

[2:26:23] regular motion okay so do I have a motion Billy made a motion and Lane second it and so do I have any public comment on this portion relating to the 2019 2020 budget yes sir thank you for your patience with us today yes ma'am my only question is I see it software and that came up here are you and the county involved in the same process because this issue came up with the county commissioners there are different issues this one is specific to our planning department they have a software package that allows for developers to go online and fill out the information which saves them a trip to the planning department and so they can apply for these permits online that software is outdated and this is an update to that existing software to keep it current and they don't use they don't have the county doesn't have the same a planning permits Department that we have or the same software so we have different rules and regulations so they're totally separate yes sir yes ma'am but my question being and my name is Don Chavez father I'm sorry I overlooked that piece of it but what I'm saying is could there be one developer that gives consensus to both parties because that meeting that I came from last month Purdue was the dominant software producer and there is a lot of animosity I think between different departments because it doesn't cover their agenda of what they need so all I'm asking is possibly could this be introduced to one vendor that they could work both issues anymore the county government operates

[2:28:27] totally separate from the city government and Electress address that as a there are ways where counties and cities can work together through interlocal agreements on purchasing issues and that's one thing that we are exploring through our purchasing department right now but as of today we don't have those kind of relationships built with the county so they are separate purchases we're gonna possibly well I don't know about this particular contract you're talking about but in general there's ongoing discussions about how we can all work together to get one better pricing because we're buying more things there are mechanisms in the law we are evaluating those but we don't have that in place now thank you all right with that any additional public comment would not we'll take a vote all in favor say aye with none opposed that f-1 passes 7-0 now we will go to F to conduct a separate record vote to ratify the property tax revenue increase reflected in the budget and place the adoption of this tax rate on the agenda for the September 17 2019 regular meeting of the City Council as an action item thank you mayor um that was a lot of words to basically say we need a record vote to ratify the tax revenue increase not a top tax rate increase there's an increase of tax revenue because of an increase in assessed valuations which is unrelated and separate from the tax rate what we want to make very clear to the public today is that the city City Council has no authority over the appraisal process of Tom Green County the only thing we have the authority over is the rate and so for those citizens who are upset that they're going to pay more dollars this year in property tax that's not because of our rate our rate will maintain the same if we all vote accordingly but Tom Green County appraisal district evaluates the valuations of the properties just to be very clear yes ma'am City does not have a hand in

[2:30:30] that process okay at this point I need to you to conduct a separate record vote do we take public comment before we do the vote mr. Chavez would you like to come comment on the tax rate yes ma'am when when I was at the meeting last on the 27th of last month one of the things that caught my eye and then we were talking about let me go back to the second page of this I was there gonna be a million two hundred thousand nine hundred fifteen dollars property tax increase in 2020 and you just you just commented it the fact of you don't you don't propose it and you have no control over it but the tax deducted and also the other thing that caught my attention land is we have a large turnover in employees whether it be in the police department fire department or people that do to the potholes that kind of stuff in that in that turnover it was stated that there was money that we were losing because of that turnover what I'm asking is could that money that we're losing or and I don't know if it's out there that we can grab be used to increase the salary so we don't have that big turnover because in training retraining that kind of stuff those are whole separate issues and we deal with the human resource issues relative to salaries increases on that subject this subject has nothing to do with salaries and maintaining employees so we really can't talk to that at this moment but we do Daniel yeah it's a good question earlier the question of your tom buddy

[2:32:32] calling to scale great you're out on the right trail as well so but on our end we do address that through human resources we do understand that we have certain needs for some reason there's certain positions we just cannot hire you know and keeping those positions so we are looking at different ways of different options to actually make that happen so yeah the reality today mister Chevis is that we are in an economy where our unemployment rate is 3% or less and so it's really an employee's world that they live in right now the fact that we're can a city what we do is very public but I assure you that all companies all corporations all businesses in the city of San Angelo having turnovers because of the impact of the oil and gas industry and so we all are suffering from that I know many people who've lost people even in the restaurant industry to the oil fields it happens across the board it is low unemployment and those that aren't employed usually are considered unemployable at this point when you have that kind of low interest rate but we are low unemployment but we value the employees and we work to secure them table yes ma'am thank you thank you very much all right with that we will take a record vote I'm gonna start with Tony demotion first oh well then I'm gonna start with Tommy Hebert making emotion I'm like so what do we need to make the motion to do to read I just need to say my name and read that okay I Tommy Hebert ratified the property tax revenue increase reflected in the budget and placed the adoption of this tax on the agenda for the September 17 2019 regular meeting of the City Council as an action item I Tom Thompson S&D - there you go now we take a record vote so each person will say their name and their district and say yes or no correct okay Billy yes Wayne Carter district 5 yes Lisa Gonzales

[2:34:41] district 4 yes Brenda Gunter mayor yes Harry Thomas district 3 yes I'm Thompson district 2 yes I'm a Hebert single-member district 1 yes complete okay we will now move into item G and again we'll need to do a record vote on this as well so this is a second public hearing and introduction of an ordinance levying property taxes for the city of San Angelo for the 2019 tax year public hearing the first reading of an ordinance fixing and leveling leaving leveling ad valorem taxes for the current tax year for use and support the municipal government of the city of San Angelo Texas for the 2019 2020 budget year providing for the assessment and collection there of providing when the tax shall become due providing when the tax shall become delinquent providing for exemptions providing for severability providing for publication on the city operated website and providing for an effective date Tina you're on again Thank You mayor again second public hearing and introduction of the actual ordinance levering the levying the property taxes for the 2019 tax year the proposed rate is at point seven seven six per $100 valuation and that breaks out to be point six eight to four cents designated for maintenance and operations and then the point zero nine three six that's designated for debt service alright so with this do we have any public comment before we take a vote all right so Harry would you like to make a motion I move that we assess 0.77 six as proposed property tax rate for fiscal year twenty have a second a second by lane now idiot I gave you a couple minutes to think about public comment is there any now with none we will take a vote we'll start with Tommy you want to say your

[2:36:45] name in your district Tommy Hebert single-member district one I vote yes I'm Thompson single-member district - I vote yes every time a single-member district three I go yes brinda günther mayor I vote yes Lisa Gonzales district 4 I vote yes Wayne Carter district 5 yes district 6 yes all right we will move into the closed session executive session of the provision of government code title 5 open government ethics subtitle a open government chapter 5 5 1 Open Meetings subchapter D exceptions to requirement that meetings be open under the file sections a section 5 5 1.07 1 1 a consult with attorney when the governmental bodies 6 the advice of its attorney about pending or contemplated litigation regarding Levi's apart Shapero versus city of San Angelo Christopher Harrington Tanner Tomlinson Abraham Flores chase Hill and Zach Villarreal individually and in their official capacities as Peace police officers for San Angelo Police Department and B section 55 1.07 to to deliberate the purchase exchange lease or value of real property if deliberation in an open meeting would have a detrimental effect on the position of the governmental body and negotiations was a third person regarding the water utility property in the area of hillside Drive and Gun Club Road it is 11:32 we will be back at 12:30 yeah I think that'll be fine no actually I'd say 45 minutes at the most yeah somewhere between 45 minutes and an hour we'll be back p.m. and we there were no announcements to be made from our closed session so we will go to 9 follow up an administrative issues consider items discussed in closed session as I said there are none

[2:38:48] announcements of consideration for a future agenda items are there any C No so there are none and then I just need a motion for adjournment if we adjourn there's a motion in a second and a vote all right okay we're done

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