San Angelo City Council 4-1-19

[0:00:00] one if we could please have a seat if there's enough chairs out there if everyone would please take a seat and check your cell phone to make sure it's turned on silent or vibrate we will start this morning with a prayer hold on one second Jake if you would please come forward and he is our fire department chaplain and we pray extra hard today the City Council's meeting on April Fool's Day so it would please bow your heads father God we thank you for another April 1st Lord we thank you for the warm weather this week we ask that you be with all those who traveled here today you know be traveling later today father God we just asked that all of our members today would be about your business first Lord I mean any issues discussed today father God you would anoint with wisdom with knowledge and that you see all the struggles you see all the emotional toil that our volunteers and our city council members and their staff go through every day to serve this community father so we just pray that you would give them and their families favor favor over their hearts favor over their minds Lord Lord we just pray that they would also feel and and know the support of the community that they represent Lord we pray for unity we bind a vision also Lord I'd like to actually ask for favor over all of our students that are in attendance today Lord Father please be with us this day we give you all praise and glory and we honor you today Lord in Jesus name Amen our pledges today we are going to have student council representatives from Trinity Lutheran Church I miss school sorry so president Shane Whitehead vice

[0:02:04] president Lucy Road treasurer Ashley Scott secretary Landon Humphreys High School representative Bella F Escobar school representative Emmy Emma Cardenas upper elementary representative Lily Mendoza middle elementary representative tani hurt lower elementary representative Kaylee dairy a and early childhood representative Raven Palos please come forward all right we're gonna turn [Applause] we have four proclamations today we will start with the first one which is a proclamation of April 2nd 2019 is national service recognition day is anyone here to accept the proclamation lots of people here to come on

[0:04:30] service to others is a hallmark of the American character and central to how we meet our challenges and the nation's elected leaders are increasingly turning to national service and volunteerism as a cost-effective strategy to meet their needs and AmeriCorps and Senior Corps participants address the most pressing challenges facing our communities they educate students for 21st century jobs fight the opioid epidemic respond to natural disasters and support veterans and military families and national service expands economic opportunity by creating more sustainable resilient communities and providing education career skills and leadership abilities for those who serve and AmeriCorps and Senior course participants serve in more than 50,000 locations across the country bolstering the civic neighbourhood and faith-based organizations that are so vital to our economic and social well-being and national service represents a unique public-private partnership that invests in community solutions and leverages non-federal resources to strengthen community impact and increase the return on taxpayer dollars and national service participants demonstrate commitment dedication and patriotism by making an intensive commitment to service a commitment that remains with them in their future endeavors and the Corporation for National community service shares a priority with local leaders nationwide to engage citizens improve lives and strengthen communities and is joining with a National League of Cities the National Association of counties cities of service and local leaders across the country for national service recognition Day on April 2nd 2019 therefore I Brenda Gunter mayor the city of San Angelo on behalf of the city council do hereby proclaim April 2nd 2019 as national service recognition day in San Angelo Texas and encourage residents to recognize the positive

[0:06:32] impact of national service in our community to thank those who serve and to find ways to give back to their communities proclaimation let me get out of your way well good morning everyone national service across the country makes a difference in the communities where volunteers serve and San Angelo is really unique for a community of our size that we have all three Senior Corps programs RSVP Foster Grandparents and senior companions and that we have a strong AmeriCorps project at ASU Sara lamang is the project director for that and we have representatives from these programs with us today from RSVP there's five or four representatives representing supporting those other 500 plus volunteers that serve and sarah has a group with her too and so service in the communities is what brings a community together and adds value to the community and we're proud to be part of that participation thank you [Applause] we are now going to have a proclamation

[0:08:42] of April 14th through the 20th 2019 as National Public Safety telecommunicators week do I have individuals here to accept this Proclamation emergencies can occur at any time that require police fire or emergency medical services and when an emergency occurs the prompt response of police officers firefighters and paramedics is critical critical to the protection of life and preservation of property and the safety of our police officers and firefighters is dependent upon the quality and accuracy of information obtained from citizens who telephone the financial emergency communications center and Public Safety telecommunicators are the first and most critical contact our citizens have with emergency services and Public Safety telecommunicators are the single vital link for our police officers and firefighters by monitoring their activities by radio providing them information and ensuring their safety and Public Safety telecommunicators of the san angelo public safety communications center have contributed substantially to the apprehension of criminals suppression of fires and treatment of patients and each dispatcher has exhibited compassion understanding and professionalism during the performance of their job in the past year therefore I Brenda Gunter mayor of the city of San Angelo Texas on behalf of the city council do hereby proclaim April 14 through 20 of 2019 as National Public Safety telecommunicators week in San Angelo Texas and call this observance to the attention of all of our citizens and honor the men and women whose diligence and professionalism keep our city and citizens safe

[0:11:07] half of our fellow dispatchers thank you National Dispatch week is something that I've been lucky to be part of for the last 14 years as dispatching not only is it a weak ignominy the city of San Angelo but by the agencies across the states it's time set aside a week where we honor those who've dedicated their lives to public safety and it's a time where we're very humbled by the acknowledgment from you and the city for the hard work and diligence set aside by every member of this department so we say thank you briefly I just want to say these are the heroes behind the scenes these are who take care of the officers the paramedics the fire department they never get the credit they deserve it's a very stressful job I turnover rate and for that I thank you very much [Applause] [Music] [Applause] proclamation of April 20 19 is alcohol Awareness Month alcohol is a primary factor in the four leading causes of death for young ages 10 to 21 and almost 100,000 persons die each year from alcohol-related causes drinking and driving crashes other accidents Falls fires alcohol-related homicides and suicide and approximately 15 million current drinkers in the United States are dependent on alcohol and adolescents used alcohol more than tobacco or illicit drugs and young people begin drinking on average at 13 years of age and young people who begin drinking

[0:13:11] before age 15 are four times more likely to develop alcohol dependence than those who begin drinking at age 21 and alcohol abuse is linked to as many as two-thirds of all sexual assaults and date rapes and the typical American will see a hundred thousand alcohol-related commercials before he or she turns 18 for all these reasons the alcohol and drug abuse Council for the concho Valley and the concho Valley cares coalition are asking the residents of San Angelo to join in recognizing April as alcohol Awareness Month therefore I Brenda Gunter mayor the city of San Angelo Texas on behalf of the city council do hereby proclaim April 20 19 as alcohol Awareness Month in San Angelo Texas and call upon all residents parents governmental agencies public and private institutions businesses hospitals schools and colleges in the city of San Angelo to support efforts that will increase community awareness and support for individuals and families coping with alcoholism in our community with the organization for this Proclamation please come forward should have asked you to come for before I read it but I got ahead of myself my apologies down to you so I'm a little shorter good morning everyone my name is Courtney Bingham and I'm the prevention director at the alcohol and drug abuse Council for the concho Valley and behind me we are part of our amazing prevention team we couldn't do what we do without them we also want to say thank you to mayor and city council for having us this morning April is alcohol Awareness Month and it's a time to learn about the health and social problems caused by excessive alcohol consumption the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism encourages the public to dedicate this month to understanding how excessive drinking can affect health to evaluating their own drinking habits and to discovering the latest developments

[0:15:14] and treatments for alcohol use disorders as we take this moment to proclaim April as alcohol Awareness Month we want to also encourage the citizens of San Angelo to be a strong prevention tool for the youth in our community according to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism of those who begin drinking before the age of 14 47% experience dependence at some point in their lives versus nine percent of those who began drinking at the age of 21 or older while the drink legal drinking age is 21 we know that the brain continues developing until the age of 25 and that anything we put into our bodies before that point affects how our brain develops how it grows and it affects future brain development and functions as a community I encourage everyone to step up and educate our youth on the importance of staying alcohol free and to educate and support them in making this life-changing decision together we can help the youth in our community to be the best healthiest and safest versions of themselves and before I go I would encourage everyone to come out to ASU tomorrow we will be there could be a bunch of community partners and we're gonna have just basically an alcohol awareness event from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. in the University Center so come out check it out and come see what [Applause] all right we'll get this right this time come on up here Angeles rhyme a proclamation of April 2019 as I chose Angelo State month

[0:17:24] Angelo State University in the community of San Angelo are partnering together in celebration of current students future students faculty staff and alumni who have chosen to participate in the auspices of higher education at Angelo State University and Angelo State University with an enrollment of ten thousand three hundred eighty seven undergraduate and graduate students is an integral part of the city of San Angelo and a citadel of higher learning in West Texas and it employs 460 faculty members 550 staff members and 750 student workers who are a vital part of this community and Angelo State University has graduated forty-seven thousand nine hundred and thirty students since its inception in 1965 and Angelo State University educational opportunities have grown to include one doctoral degree in physical therapy twenty one master's degree programs forty two undergraduate degree programs and over 100 majors in concentrations and Angelo State University is this year celebrating its 90th graduating class and the month of April 2019 will be celebrated as I chose Angelo State Month at Angelo State University by current students future students faculty staff and alumni through campus events social media and local media outlets therefore I Brenda Gunter mayor the city of San Angelo Texas on behalf of the city council do hereby proclaim April 2019 as I chose Angelo State month and San Angelo and call upon the citizens of our area to recognize this remarkable display of pride in our community and the comprehensive educational opportunities at Angelo State University okay we did a very good job of reading it that's for sure I just want to thank everyone we have a

[0:19:26] lot of our administration but in the background and we take this we take this relationship very very serious I'm very proud to be a part of a state that the people who are appointed by the governor are elected by the public make the final decision and I can tell you I speak to presidents all over the country and no one has a closer relationship with the University and the City Council like we do many of the members of this City Council are alumni and we appreciate it and they do a great job and the support we get from this city is amazing and so that relationship we want to continue to foster and we stand in partnership with our sister education institutions like Howard college and SAISD to bring quality education to the city of San Angelo of over thousand employees and we hope to announce close to 11,000 students next fall this is really important to all of us thank you very much oh and I want to recognize miss Bentley she would talk to you about Thank You dr. May if I could have our students that are represent that are represented here come up to the front right behind here and then our members of ASU please come up as well we would like to take a moment to introduce a few of our area students who have chosen to attend Angelo State University this fall along with several staff members who will welcome them into the RAM family first off we have Central High School kena bolding presented by dr. Flores vice president for student affairs and enrollment management next we have Lakeview high school Manuel Meza

[0:21:33] presented by Jeff septic executive director of enrollment management next we have the Texas leadership Charter Academy Ray Manuel presented by Lisa Hernandez Director of Admissions next we have grape Creek High School samantha moreno presented by angie right vice president for finance and administration next we have wall high school destiny jimenez presented by jamie akin vice president for development and alumni relations and last but not least we have Howard college we have Zachary German presented by Kimberly Adams director of development and alumni services all right thank you all very much [Applause] got an empty room now don't we all right

[0:24:13] we will now open up for public comment items issues or items that are not on the regular agenda may be raised by the public at this time citizens should speak from the podium begin by stating their name and limit remarks to less than three minutes council members may request that a discussed item be placed on a future agenda the council takes public comment on all irregular agenda items during the discussion of those items do I have anyone here today who would like to make a public comment morning mayor council I just wanted to remind everybody that is watching TV or that maybe watching this later that watering restrictions change as of today April 1st you're now allowed to water twice every seven days but not between the hours of noon to 6:00 and still no more than one inch per week and still water cannot run down the street or gutter more than 150 feet so I just wanted to make that announcement thank you good morning guy Andrews director of economic development for the city of San Angelo Development Corporation I just want to remind everyone that this week we're kicking off our comprehensive housing study the purpose of this study you will be to gauge both the supply and demand for housing to determine if there any gaps within housing in San Angelo this week the consultants are going to be meeting with the various focus groups such as our Realtors our home builders bankers mortgage bankers affordable housing people and so forth one of the things I want to tell you though in a couple of weeks following this week we will be having a survey that will be widely distributed to everyone and we would like to have everyone's input whether you're happy with the housing that you have now or if you'd like to see other alternatives at house

[0:26:15] made available we'd like to have that input even though it's widely distributed through a lot of distribution list if you would like to participate in that and want to make sure that your minute list you can contact me at guy dot Andrews at CE OS ax dot us as guy dot Andrews at cos ATX not us or you can call me at six five three seven one nine seven and we'll make sure that you'll get a survey within your hand thank you morning what happened to your crowd it's hard to hold it isn't it I'm Bruce part and president CEO of the San Angelo Chamber of Commerce and I just wanted to thank the city of San Angelo in particular the City Council the Chamber every year for the last 14 years has put on an event called Goodfellow appreciation day part of it is kind of low-key because we don't really announce it to the general public it's really an opportunity for us to buy a picnic lunch picnic lunch some like Yogi Bear there for our active military but without the city and really all the volunteers that that come out through the city and the facilities that we do use for that day it would be impossible to do it so as we start working towards that in the next few weeks and really tying some things together before we get too wrapped up into it I just want to say thank you very much for that and appreciate not only the the those who serve by election but also those who serve as volunteers really behind the scenes who are staff members because many many people go out of their way to make this a possibility a dream come true so thank you so much for what you do to encourage those staff members to stay with us thanks so much there public comment no further public

[0:28:20] comment we will move into the regular agenda oh sorry we're going to do the consent agenda I'm trying to get us through real fast okay we are now going to open up for the consent agenda do I have any items that council would like to be pulled from the consent agenda Tommy no ma'am Gary no ma'am Lucy Lane Billy okay with item F pulled from the consent agenda do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda and that is move in a second all in any public comment no public comment we'll take a vote all in favor say aye not opposed consent agenda is approved with the exception of item F item F is consider ratifying a resolution by the Cosa DC board authorizing the use of sales and use tax funds in an amount not to exceed 3 million $750,000 over a five year period for infrastructure improvements to the Chadbourne Street pedestrian corridor a project authorized under Chapter 505 of the Texas local government code and authorizing the city manager to execute a Memorandum of Understanding with the city of San Angelo Development Corporation you're on Bob good morning bob nieman i'm the city's economic development project manager this this item I'll just go over briefly first if you like it's allocating 3.75 million dollars for the north Chadbourne streetscape and project improvements the reason that we're doing this back in in April of 2017 the board approved seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year to be allocated to this project over a five year period which basically totals to 3.75 million in order for us to do that state law requires that the board passed a resolution designating it

[0:30:24] as a project under the state's definition it requires that we issue public notice and newspaper and that we cannot expand those funds until 60 days after the date of notice of that publication and it also requires a member and of understanding or performance agreement basically between the city and the Development Corporation to do that the way we intend to expend those funds is 1.5 million is set aside for phase 1 of the project and then we will budget 750 thousand a year annually for the next three years to complete that I might also add that this item went before council as part of the Chadbourne funding component so council approved that funding component I think his element is just a follow up of the formal resolution so council also reviewed it and approved that when we submitted phase a so the three million three point seven million is just for phase a no ma'am I believe the allocation is about 1.5 million for phase one and then the remainder as it is needed okay as we council approved on the Chadbourne was those dollars were allocated for the project and they were to be used for phase a and then any remaining dollars could be used as contingency for phase a or for future projects associated with Chadbourne I noticed in some of the background information that it looked like we didn't get all of the funding maybe from grants that we had anticipated is that correct I got different direct the only thing that did not happen was in the initial concept which was early on there was a potential for MPO dollars to come forward we had talked about that the state then changed saying that the other the local MPO took action to allocate

[0:32:27] those on the state then changed their approach and said actually now we're not going to let you do that so the MPO dollars did not come forward so we brought a new plan to Council which showed that taken out and so those were those plans were approved by council each time as those funding sources changed and then one final question bob specifically what will face a include what infrastructure aza is Chadbourne of course from Concha I'm sorry from the river to Beauregard and so it includes basically entire new Street and includes pedestrian elements lighting those kind of things it also includes as Russell talked about last time infrastructure meaning our water sewer those kind of things in those areas and what you approved in the Chadbourne project was actually to do your infrastructure upfront for the entire component so you're doing infrastructure actually from Washington to Houston Hart and then the actual phase a for the street and the street scape is concho I'm sorry the river to Beauregard and then you also authorized design of phase B which is Beauregard to Houston Hart which are the construction drawings so that we're ready to go and apply where you authorized applying for additional grants from the state through the set-aside program so we'll have favs be designed as well thank you thank both of you may I make a motion that we approve item F with a motion and a second is there any public comment with no public comment we'll take a vote all in favor say aye opposed the motion passes 7-0 we will now move in to the regular agenda item a discussion and possible action regarding the Lake Nazareth E sewer study and the presentation will be made by Alan Wolke

[0:34:31] I probably said that wrong and Allison Strube yes good morning Mary council again so back in March of 2018 you authorized a contract with CDM Smith for the evaluation of the lake as were the sewer area this is a very small area of our sewer system but it carries a lot of weight and a lot of complexities and so I want to introduce Allen Wilkie you said that correct mayor and was CDM Smith and he's going to step through kind of what they've been working on to get to this point and pasta and some alternatives and so Jeff shins possibly moving forward to solve some of the issues that League Noseworthy here in Council good morning thank you for this opportunity to present the objectives the work that we did in the results and then talk to you about recommendations about how to move forward on this important project just a little bit so the first thing we're gonna go the map that you see here is you know you're very familiar with it but I guess if people are watching on TV and don't know exactly where now is worthy is we have it outlined in a big red box we're gonna talk about the background and objectives key issues for serving wastewater in this area the summary of findings major alternatives and then we'll leave time for questions of course that there's any questions while we're talking please step in wastewater Lake newsworthy is very challenging it's the area in that part of the city wants to drain towards the lake of course you have the lake being an impediment to natural gravity waste water service so the area's developed through a lot of how you use the haphazard the word haphazard but it almost seems like that and you'll seen a little bit very little gravity service there our grinder pumps out there there are twenty six lift stations out there that serve serve the

[0:36:33] area did you make sure you speak into the mic okay thank you 26 lists stations that serve the area of the city only has 52 total so half of the list stations in the city are out there serving but Lake Nassau or the area meanwhile the the area provides or sins to the city about a half a million gallons a day of wastewater and the city treats a total of 8 million gallons a day so 16th of the wastewater that's created in the city but it's serving it has to have after those stations just a map showing the lake nays were the area the ABC are the areas that are showing the grinder pump stations I believe there's about a hundred and ten grinder pump stations out there that are serving houses both individually and in multiples the city is responsible for maintaining those and it's very difficult because a lot of times there's no easements or no formal agreement on how to get that done that's one of the areas of concern the other is the list stations we talked about the 26 list stations they are the orange circles that are listed there so the key issues are the system being relied on these 26 list stations and lots and lots of force mains that we'll look at in just a minute 106 grinder systems and if all this potentially limits the development potential in the lake Nass where the area as an engineer I find just completely amazing so this is the complexity of the system that you have out there the again the orange sounds like a bad thing yes it is it's kind of neck yeah I have been doing this in in June I've been doing this for 40 years

[0:38:35] and this is probably the most complicated waste water collection system I've ever seen the orange dot the orange circles again or the lift stations the blue squares and if you can find them in there a the C and B or the grinder pump station areas so you know in the engineering school and through practice they say a lift station should pump in a force main to a gravity system and what we have here is what's termed a header lift station our force main system so here you have one two three four pump stations plus these two pumping into a single force main what makes it complicated is when one pump is pumping there's a one set of hydraulic conditions and when all those pump stations are pumping there's a completely different set of hydraulic and and what we found out through the modeling is when all of them are trying to pump none of them can pump because they're not big enough to get down to force main so it makes a very complicated situation yes Ben because it sits around the longer it does it's not wine it doesn't age well so the Nazareth II study consisted of the following the first thing we did was flow monitoring and we started out in March and it wasn't very we didn't catch any storms and we do this to try to determine how much flow is coming in from the customers out there we were a little concerned that maybe it was more of a holiday flow issue than it was a normal day actually we didn't see that much difference between holidays and normal days we also are looking for how much infiltration in flow that might be in the system because that dictates the size of the pumps and the force mains we we found that there was a little bit but nothing more than what would be expected again that the flow monitoring showed that was about a half a million gallon a day coming out of the lake Nats were the area the peak flow was 1.6 so little over 3/4 wastewater flow that's not bad we created a hydraulic model the last time the city had a hydraulic model none of its wastewater system was 1998 technologies moved on I don't know how many of us are using computers since

[0:40:37] from 1998 but you can imagine that that was a little bit dated so we brought it up to a more recent wastewater system and analyzed it through the looking at the force mains flows and things like that overall service so the recommendations and in the analysis we found that there were these issues I mentioned a little bit about force mains being able to be used through multiple lift stations and actually getting it to serve the biggest thing is it's barely able to keep up with the the flows now in fact there are some less stations that are we recommend be looked into and upgraded at this time but we started looking at alternatives that would provide additional capacity out there for development one of the alternatives was the South concho River interceptor it eyes into a 42 inch interceptor that's in the city at that location almost at that location and then follows the South Contra River to a point here where it takes a considerable amount of the flow off of the list station system and puts it in a gravity interceptor it has the potential to remove several the list stations one of the things that it does that I think is important there is a force main that crosses the lake now is worthy right there and it is a single pipe we're not sure how it was constructed whether it was laid on the lake bottom are actually trenched across the bottom it's a single pipe takes all the list stations on the south side of the lake and sends it across the lake it has been tested it isn't leaking good news is but it is also a single point of failure that if something happened there all those list stations on the south side of the lake would be out of service likewise a lot of those other force mains were we were seeing all the list stations pumping into are all considered single points of service a break there puts out large areas of the other that part of the system the interceptor would be able to remove the list the force main that goes under the lake but it replaces it with a

[0:42:40] force main that goes across the lake there it would be a double force main so if one went out the other one would be used if it also be cased so if there was a leak it wouldn't flow directly waste water wouldn't flow directly into Lake Ness worthy the other option is a much more simple less comprehensive alternative it's basically upgrades one of the lift stations the North bit would the station which needs to be upgraded in any way because of service issues and it would construct a backup force main across Lake Nazareth even where we talked about it earlier this would remove non elicitation service would remain about the same the ability to develop the area would be still restricted quite a bit the cost comparison with the Interceptor of the cost is quite a bit more 32 million is the opinion of probable construction cost existing up existing system upgrades just to kind of hold it where it is it's nine million dollars some pros and cons for the Interceptor we have potential waste water service to Butler farm and Country Club areas which are currently on septic and those could be taken off of the septic system and put on a collection system the gravity sewer requires a little maintenance once it's installed potential to remove the older lift stations in the lake NASA for the area and to reduce the operating cost that the city incurs by operating these 26 lift stations the cons obviously is much higher capital cost excuse me would you go back to the previous slide please where you said has the potential to move older lift stations how many are we potentially looking at I think there's six or eight that can be removed of the 2610 shil why is it so not defined potential doesn't say it may it may may not it could it could not

[0:44:43] what does potential mean I think that has to do with the whether the city spends further funds to take them out of service it provides the opportunities of 32 million does not include the removal of the list stations to take him out by gravity services so in other words 32 million does not remove some of the older lift station removes two it doesn't remove the six or eight it has a potential to remove those others and you say potential to reduce operating costs because operating fewer lift stations but only two would be a two would be taken out maybe six so if I mean that's not much - maybe six so it doesn't really look like it's gonna reduce operating cost that much not some different because there's too many red flags question mark yeah we tried to quantify that but we weren't able to get the information on each individual list station so we can't quantify exactly how much operating cost reduction would be in the higher capital cost is just the difference between 32 million and 9 million and if on the 32 million if the nine million was spent today it would only give us a little bit more carry and would not if five years we needed more capacity the 32 wouldn't be reduced by nine it would still be 32 on top of nine or more when you say remove the older lift stations do they actually have to be removed or could you just shut them down ignorant and not understanding how all the system work some of them in the most simple terms they could just be shut down but usually it's always a good idea to at least remove the equipment and backfill the wet well so it's not a potential danger like danger somebody getting into it falling into it collapsing at some point in the future

[0:46:46] as you know the wastewater corrodes the concrete sometimes and it could be a potential you know collapse the potential cost you said it wasn't included in the 32 million so what's the potential cost of additional cost to remove the older lift stations thank you so okay so then the question mark is on nine million dollars how much more capacity does it give us versus thirty-two million and on the 32 million does that give us incremental capacity for 30 years or 50 years or how many additional years so the nine million basically takes care of what's out there right now 32 million provides 2 million gallons a day of additional capacity for that area so significantly more than then what you have out there right now and if you support the 32 million dollars it's not like you can say we're going to spend 10 million this year and then 20 million down the road it's really signing up for 32 million you can't split that you achieve the result yes ma'am because it has to be a its sole package from the 42-inch all the way back up to Lake Ness worthy yes and do we have to get any additional paperwork from the government to do this or we could if we approve it and find a way to fund it then it is moved forward so no more additional permits would be required to change this system I believe when we looked at it a lot of the property is owned by the city of constant of the city of San Angelo and so I think that it would move forward fairly quickly in the right away an easement area with any public expenditure of funds there's always the Texas Historical Commission that has to review the project so there would have to be archeological studies along there

[0:48:48] to make sure there's nothing of cultural significance that's impacted of course all projects that are in waters of the US have to go through at least a pre-construction notification make sure that waters of the United States aren't impacted and then a lot of times endangered species are pulled in that way as well so there is some permitting that every public project has to go through to get final approval it sounds like a lot of approval Harry my question is this if we decide that we want to go with this 32 million does that take the grinder pups out of service does that allow that it allows them to be taken out service it does not take them out of service so it allows us to hook up to each one of those particular properties the ability to for sewer systems instead of using the grinder pumps we had looked at alternatives to to take all the grinder pumps out of service the area is relatively flat so putting in gravity sewer in the areas where the grinder pumps are was difficult we looked at other options one of the options that we did look at was a vacuum system where instead of each individual house having a grinder pump that pumps into a forced main there would be a grinder pump in each I'm sorry would be a vacuum system and each house would have a vacuum valve that when it to pit or that the holding tank fills the vacuum valve opens allows the wastewater to be sucked out to a Central Station and from there it goes into a list ation is pumped out so it would take out a way all the individual grinder pumps and put with a more centralized system I guess this may be a question for Allison but how often do we have to go out there and and work on those grinder pumps or unplug them or do whatever we got to do to them during rain events our utility maintenance department is out there continuously almost til rain event stops and those the localized kind of flooding

[0:50:53] events kind of stop but we are out there usually on a day to day routine for all I mean with 106 of them were we're constantly working on them that means we're out there sometimes we got people out there on holidays and weekends so we're paying overtime for these people to do those types of things is that correct that's correct I think we probably if you've got that kind of data at some time in the future would like to see that because I think what we're going to see is long term we're going to end up saving money by spending the 32 million upfront Tommy I'm Alan or Alison either one I don't want to put words in anybody's mouth but did I understand that the nine million dollar option does not really address or let's just use the word fix the odor issue but the thirty-two million dollar would nine million dollar option doesn't really change the number of list stations it upgrades the list station so that at Brentwood so that it works better against its over capacity right now so really nothing would change there as far as the odor issue grinder punch will still be there all the twenty six solicitations would still be there all the force mains would stay just the way they are the 32 million dollar option would relieve some of those areas and it wouldn't be sitting around in the force mains quite so long the eight inch underneath Lake Naza where they would be gone which is a very long force main wastewater sitting in force mains for a long periods of time is what causes the other issue so it would we didn't look at that specifically but just from experience working in for a while it would reduce it some so the council's probably heard me say this before but businesses were shut down a couple of years ago in that area because of specifically because of the odor so if the 32 million is something that

[0:52:55] addresses this in my opinion not only because it's going to it's going to cost more in the future to deal with the 32 million since the nine million really doesn't address any of that it doesn't give us any more capacity if there's no more capacity you know it seems to me that the 32 million is our better option well and I think you know we have had limited discussion on future development and growth at the lake and if we start talking about an industrial park at the airport we would have to have that anyway so I I just guess I don't see a need to spend 9 million dollars and still not have a solution for the future I think we need to be more forward-thinking I think we've got a development out there right now that we are not allowing to develop any further because we do not have the capacity today so we are impeding development as we sit here and speak because of the issue that exists it's correct and there's many issues right now so I guess the biggest Oh Allison did you want to share something I just wanted to mention that as a part of this evaluation CDM Smith did work with our consultants that are doing the airport master plan not sure what the exact total is but the area that is looking at that Business Park outside of outside the airport and we have accommodated or looked at future flows from that area incorporated that into this model in those type of things so I do want you all to know that that was incorporated within this and I believe that the 2 million gallon are 2 million gallons a day excess would be over and above that Airport basically volume that we've set aside for the airport so we're talking two million dollars in excess of what y'all could potentially have at the airport can we have a little verbage Michael on how we would because I think we all believe that we need to do the 32 million dollar project

[0:54:59] the question is how do we finance this well we have the borrowing capacity the question is how do you fund debt service for 32 million we've talked about the possibility of accessing NASA the NAS worthy fund through an election but that would only reduce the amount necessary if we wanted to stage this for some years out in the future we could affect the rates and save up and pay cash or if we wanted to move ahead without delay which i think is probably going to be council's preference we can look at what it would take to borrow and finance and then build that into the rate study so this was kind of the direction I was hoping to get from you Liz which one of these options y'all were wanting to look at whether it's the nine million or the thirty two million dollar amount once we kind of have y'all's guidance we can further investigate which one more in-depth how we're going to pay for it because even with the nine million we'd still be looking at how are we going to pay for that so I just wanted to get y'all's overall direction make sure y'all are aware of the issues and kind of an update on the study but with whatever suggestion y'all are alternative y'all are proposing us to further investigate we can take that from there and then bring back future funding options and how we can move this project forward do I have a motion from Council oh wait do I have one other question Alison so is this an either are there no more options other than 32 million or nine million no these are the two options yes butan so with that yes Michael this the 32 million dollar option would leave the pipeline that crosses the lake in service and we would be reliant upon it what is the remaining useful life for that for that pipe and if it needs to be replaced are we looking at nine million

[0:57:04] anyway if we go with the Interceptor alternative right we we still are crossing the lake with the old pipe and it is still in service is that correct no we're taking that pipe in how have certain service completely out of service singly out of service the redundant system with a 32 million dollar option the current 8 inch line that goes underneath Lake Nazareth II would be abandoned we would installed these two parallel cased pipe lines across an arm of leg has worthy to get to the Interceptor so the one that is that concerns us the most the 8 inch uncased single force main would be abandoned thank you they're all my commotion if you want one I would move that we direct staff to pursue the 32 million dollar option and bring back possible funding alternatives for that option is there any public comment no public comment we'll take a vote all in favor of the motion to approve the 32 million dollar project say aye not opposed motion passes 7 0 so you will come back then at our next meeting do you believe the next meeting you'll have the potential of financing strategy I think we'll look at an Abe meeting for bringing back funding options I think the next meetings a little soon to have these type of funding options work through and we want to make sure we're really thorough on that okay thank you our next item on the agenda item B is first reading and public hearing of an ordinance approving the abandonment and vacation of all public alleys comprising 0.26 7 acres or 12,000 30 square feet within block 15 of the mills Paul Edition generally located north of West Washington Drive west of South chadbourn

[0:59:09] Street south of Santa Fe Depot and east of South Irving Street John thank you John James Director of Planning and Development Services you can see on the map here the alleys in question it's right there as you mentioned about the Santa Fe Depot a couple of other graphics here showing the future land use and the zoning in the area and a few pictures [Music] actually I'm gonna go back in just a second this is the original original plan of the area before the railroad at some point the railroad came in and it took out a portion of that but it wasn't clear how that all happened and that's one of the reasons you see part of the abandonment itself and go back to that includes part of that area over the railroad area so just to be clear the resolution will abandon all of the alleys within that original block that way it covers it whether the dedication to the railroad right-of-way technically abandon the alleys or not this covers us in any case one of the issues here and the reason this was brought up by this applicant this property here is landlocked basically and so what this would do would be allow him and he's working with the adjacent property owners to get basically an in and out he would he would get part of that alleyway to provide an access to the street for his property for for his property is that we said yes so rather than being landlocked here with no access to a public street he's working with these other property owners as part of the replant that they will do one of the conditions of approval is a reap lat he would work with those properties to get that access if for some reason you'll notice one of the conditions if for some reason he's not able to work out an arrangement with those property

[1:01:11] owners there is a condition that they provide him an easement across those properties what you know what is now the alley once it's abandoned and they take ownership if they don't agree to transfer that ownership to him to provide a direct access to the street they will at a minimum have to provide him with an access easement so that he does have that access to the roads this does preserve and get to those conditions but this does preserve utility easement for the existing utilities in that area as well we did send out our notifications did not receive any in opposition and of course one in favor these are the staff recommendations including the five conditions most of these conditions are the normal ones but keeping the utility easement for example providing fire code acts there fire apparatus access to that landlocked property as well with that I'll be happy to answer any questions arrey do you have a question I actually sit in the planning commission meeting for this particular item and I have to agree with Planning Commission I moved to approve as presented let me see if there's any other questions or comments first just a minute Harry any other questions or comments from Council all right so Harry has a motion do I have a second do I have public comment [Music] with none we'll take a vote all in favor say aye any opposed motion passes 7 0 John before you sit down would you go back to the pictures in a minute I want to point out something the one keep going back back back back and yeah the one that picture on the southwest not that big billboard but on the further if two might be my left on that picture we need to have Ross Coleman take a look there's a sign that is hanging down it looks like it could fall off at any moment it

[1:03:13] looks really dangerous that's on Washington and Chadbourne it's on its last little piece of Tim before it's rusted out so police have someone look at that thank you all right with that we'll move into our closed session which there is none today so we will do a follow-up an administrative issue obviously nothing in closed sessions so we will have the following various board nominations design historic review commission Lennie James SMD three two first for a full term for design historic Review Commission the Economic Development Corporation in arica Laura SMD for and keeps an angel' beautiful Joe Spano for SMD two ending September twenty twenty and John bio SMD for to a first term ending September twenty twenty do I have a motion any public comment of no public comment we'll take a vote all in favor aye any opposed none opposed motion passes items C announcements and consideration of future agenda items are there any with none we adjourn move in a second so you can't blame me for this short council adjourned

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