San Angelo City Council 8-5-25

[0:00:00] Morning folks. Welcome to the uh August 5th, 2025 city council meeting. I will call this to order. Our first order of business is to have our chaplain prayer and pledges led by the Jenkins, Marcela, and Gary. >> Good morning. >> Morning. Let's pray. Almighty God, our refuge and strength, we turn to you in this time of great need. Once again, we lift up those affected by the floods, the fires, the tornadoes, and tsunamis. Those who have lost homes and livelihoods and loved ones. We ask for your comfort and peace to surround them and for your provision to meet their needs. Grant strength to those working to rescue and rebuild. Fill us all with hope for the future. In your mercy, bring an end to this disaster and restore your people to safety and wholeness. We take this time to pray for those that were killed or hurt due to violent shootings. Please bring peace to their families and loved ones. Precious Father, please instruct us and teach us in the way that we should conduct this meeting. Please counsel us with your loving eye on us. Let our aims in this meeting be aligned with your direction. Let our plans be orchestrated by you. Father, let you let your will be done in this meeting so this can be a meeting that is based upon your desires for us. Whatever it is that you want to result from this meeting, Lord, let it happen. Continue to protect each one of us and our families today from all hurt, harm, and danger, seen and unseen, especially our first responders as they seek to

[0:02:04] bring peace. Let St. Angelo be a city of unity and love. In Jesus' name, I pray. Amen. >> Amen. >> Please repeat the pledge after me. Allegian to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisibley and justice for all. >> Texas flag I pledge allegiance to thee Texas one state under God one and indivisible. Before we get started today, I want to make a quick announcement. If anyone is in the audience uh for item 6E, that's on our regular agenda, item 6E, which is a zoning case over on 14th Street. That item will not be heard today uh because the planning commission has not yet heard it and made its recommendation to the council. Again, if anybody's here today for that reason, um either for or against the uh proposal, you can visit with the uh director of planning and development services uh Aaron Vanoi uh and visit uh visit with him to see uh what may be uh forthcoming in the future with respect to that specific case. Thanks. Um we have one proclamation, >> Tommy. Also item 6F is also being pulled for the same reason. It was not heard at commission. >> Then item 6F same speech. Okay. We have one proclamation today. It

[0:04:18] is the recognition of the 101st birthday of Fes Parker. I think we have a couple of folks here and um I have been instructed if I don't put this on then uh Mr. Miller will chastise me severely. Thank you. Y'all want to come up? Bob, Larry, come on. Mr. Fes Parker, famous for endearing roles as Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone in movies and on television as a former is a former St. Angeloan who never forgot the city where he grew up. Soon after his birth in Fort Worth on August 16th, 1924, Fes and his family traveled to St. Angelo where Fes spent his entire childhood and adolescence. He attended Steven F. Austin Elementary School, graduated from St. Angelo High School in 1942 where he played on the Bobcat football team. He joined the service soon after graduation and served with the US Navy during World War II. Following his discharge from the service in 1946, Mr. Parker attended Harden Simmons University and then graduated from the University of Texas. It was at UT where Fes took a serious hankering for dramatic acting. Fes began an acting career in 1951, but it wasn't until 1954 that his big break in show business occurred. Searching for a lead actor to play Davy

[0:06:21] Crockett in one of his productions, Walt Disney watched Fes co-star in a science fiction movie called Them and was struck by Fes's portrayal of a man unswerving in his beliefs despite all odds. Fes was immediately hired for the role. Fes's career exploded with the Davy Crockett craze. Besides generating a number one hit song, the ballot of Davy Crockett, Fes's portrayal also created a merchandising frenzy unlike anything ever seen. Every little boy in the US dearly wanted a skinin cap, buckskin shirt, and a toy rifle called Old Betsy. After completing the series, Fes starred in numerous box office hits, including Old Yeller and The Great Locomotive Chase. Fest put his skinin cap back on once again in 1964, starring as Daniel Boone on a six-year run of the popular television show. Fes retired from acting at the age of 47 and began a career in real estate development and ranching near Santa Barbara, California. He often returned to St. Angelo for fundraisers, other civic events, updates on the fine arts museum, which at the time was in the quartermaster building at Fort Koncho, or to simply visit with old friends, teachers, and classmates from St. Angelo High School. In an article in the Standard Times in 1963, Fes spoke of St. Angelo, saying fondly, "After traveling around the country, I still think St. Angelo is one of the nicest residential towns I've seen. It hasn't changed essentially, I'm glad to say, but as usual, it looks like it could stand a little rain. Fes Elisha Parker Jr. passed away on March 18th, 2010 near Santa Barbara, California. Now, therefore, on behalf of the city council, I do recognize and applaud the life of Mr. Fes Elisha Parker Jr. and encourage all citizens to join in

[0:08:25] celebrating his achievements in the 101st anniversary of his birth of this outstanding citizen of St. Angelo on August 16th, 2025. Thank you very much uh Councilman Heert um for your meaningful words about Fes Parker. Truly a son of St. Angelo whom we all have great reason to be proud of. It's absolutely amazing to me that this kid when he was little, Fes Parker rode his bike around the North Jackson Street neighborhood with his friends, attended Stephen F. Austin uh delivered papers for the Standard Times and actually carved his initials into wet cement behind his buddy's house. It's still there today. Uh and that he would actually become a national s superstar back in the day. A question I have is how many people here haven't ever heard of Fes Parker? Raise your hand. Come on. Come on. Oh, did you know he was from San Angelo? Well, that's fantastic. Okay. To celebrate uh the 101st anniversary of Fesa's birth, we'll be honoring his life on August the 16th at Fort Koncho. We'll be having a morning session starting at 9:00 a.m. full of games, a lookalike contest, great prizes, continental breakfast, uh, and an opportunity to have your child's picture or yourself taken with fess. Okay, we we don't have the real fess here. We have a standy that's about 6'5, which was as tall as he was. The uh afternoon one or evening at 7 7 pm will include uh popcorn, refreshments, a birthday cake, a quiz, displays about

[0:10:28] FES's life here in St. Angelo and his meteoric uh rise in the world of movies and showbiz. There'll also be a showing of uh one of Fes's most memorable films, The Great Locomotive Chase. And finally, the entire audience will sing a have a ac capella sing along of the ballad of Davy Crockett. Anybody in this room doesn't know that song? Come join us in honoring the life of this wonderful citizen of St. Angelo Fez Parker and have a lot of fun along the way. Thank you again, Councilman Heert, for this proclamation. Yeah, we got to have evidence. >> Let the record show that this was Mr. Miller's idea. Let the record also show that this is a great idea. And we cordially invite everyone to join us on August 16. Be a lot of fun and the price is right. I guess that doesn't stay on board

[0:12:36] though. We're now at our public comment uh time. Members of the public may raise issues or concerns not listed on the regular agenda during this time. To participate, please sign in with city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. Speakers will be called in order they signed in. When speaking, citizens must speak from the podium. Address all comments to the dis. Begin by stating your name and address or single member district number and limit your remarks to three minutes or less. Council has no obligation to respond to comments or questions from the public. Any response from a city council member to a non-aggenda to non-aggenda comments is limited to a statement of specific factual information recitation of existing policy directing staff to place the subject on a future agenda. And I'm going to let our city clerk walk us through that. Heather. >> Uh, Jamal Schumpert. >> Good morning, sir. >> Uh, good morning, Council Jamal Shumpert, 2817 North Urban Street. I just had a quick suggestion about the North Side Recreation Center on U Magdalan Street. In a few years, maybe we could look into creating a small concert venue, open space area, uh, and make an amphitheater seating, maybe out of concrete or wood. Uh, I think it would be beneficial for that area to bring some type of activity back to that area. You can still use the fields for uh, baseball or what not, but that I would agree that building is pretty much a wash, but that doesn't mean that the entire area or that whole park has to, you know, go into being a detention point. As I was saying, thank you. Thanks for your comments. Any others? >> That concludes public comment. >> That concludes our public comment section. U we'll go to our consent agenda. Um go down the dis here and see if anybody wants to pull an item. Mary,

[0:14:42] >> I don't really I I don't have one that I want to pull, but I do have a question. So, is is that appropriate? Can we ask those questions without pulling them? >> Uh, >> I don't think so. >> Say pull it. >> You need to pull it >> and then we can discuss it after. Okay. >> Um, item 5B. Yes. >> Okay. Karen. >> L, please. >> L. Patrick >> E and J >> Harry >> nothing to pull >> Joe >> I have nothing to pull. Okay. They may have um motion to approve the consent agenda with the exception of items B, E, J, and L. >> So moved. >> Motion by Karen. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Okay. >> Patrick. Second by Patrick. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. 6. Okay. Item B, consider approving the purchase of 3,977.16 square ft from First Presbyterian Church for the Chadurn phase B project for 59,000. That's the appraised value. Closing cost not to exceed $2,000 and authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute all related documents. Uh, Mr. Patrick Feric and Miss Sarah Torres. question. Mary, >> just could you explain to me what the Chadurn Street phase B is? What portion or what is that portion, please?

[0:16:45] >> So, if you're you're all probably well aware that we did Chadurn Street phase A, which is the streetscape and the road rework from the river all the way to Borugard. Phase B continues that same design, that same look all the way from Borugard to the loop. So we call that Chadburn phase B. As part of that Chadburn phase B, we have we obviously have to impact some of the side streets. And one of those and what this item covers is we're going to be aligning College Street up better so that that movement across Chadurn Street is is not so skewed. And as part of that, we have to purchase some of the rideway from the church there in order to get enough rideway to to line that intersection back up. So Chadurn phase A phase B is a continuation of Chadurn Street from Borard to the loop and as part of that we need a little bit of ride away from the church in order to to make that design match. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. Anybody want to make a motion to approve item B? >> So moved. >> Motion by Mary. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Joe. All in favor say I. >> Any opposed? Motion passes 6-0. Item E, consider approving a fifth amendment to the Santa Fe Municipal Golf Course Services Agreement with TwoPro Management that extends the term of the agreement to September 30th, 2027, authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute all related documents. Question Patrick for Mr. White. >> Hello. It's uh it can be a deeper conversation eventually. Uh my understanding is that the Santa Fe Park Commission is looking into doing more with that park, but I just want to make sure we're not just keep kicking this down the road. So, do we do they have a plan for helping Santa Fe or is it just just business as usual? Um I mean, it's um it is a cheap golf

[0:18:48] course and cheap golf course for a reason, but it is in pretty bad shape. So, I just want to make sure we're doing right by the people that do frequent it. >> This lines in with what we talked about a meeting or two ago about the uh request for qualifications to develop a river master plan uh that includes Santa Fe Park. And so, that process is going to take a while. We just released the the request for qualifications last week. We'll go through the process of receiving those and meeting to make a recommendation on who to whom to hire. That'll come back to city council probably in October and we'll start that process to look at the entire park, river parks, including Santa Fe Park and the golf course as to what we envision it to be in the future, including incorporating that Kono River Legacy Trail Sculpture Project into the those properties. So, we figured with two year two years, and this was a recommendation of the Santa Fe Park Commission. Um, we figured with extending this agreement, two years, it'll give us time to go through that process and all come together and come up with a plan of what to do with that property. >> Okay, fair enough. Sounds good. Thank you. >> Motion to approve. >> I move to approve. >> Motion by Patrick to approve. Second. Second by Karen. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Hold on. We have one public comment. >> Okay. >> Jamal Schumpert. >> Uh Jamal Shumpert, 2817 North Urban. Uh Councilman Key, you brought up a great point. Uh the master plan development. I think we should have a lot of town halls and see what people would like to install in that that river park. Not just the committees, but actual town halls so people can uh make suggestions. We use that park for quite a few different things. and maybe the community has suggestions that other communities would love to come see here

[0:20:49] in St. Angelo. So that's why I think it should be a town hall thing, not just a uh committee member thing. And then it comes up to you guys. Thank you. >> Thanks, Jamal. >> Tommy, just to clarify on that, it is listed within the proposal that the consultants will hold those town hall meetings. >> Okay, you hear that, Jamal? Okay, we already voted on that. Unfortunately, I got us out of order there. Was it 660 6? Anybody want to change their vote? Hopefully no. Okay, we'll go to item J. Consider a resolution waving the imposition and collection of certain building permit fees to repair structures within the designated disaster area due to damages caused by the July 4th flood event. >> Good morning. >> Uh I mean, first off, I'm all for that. My question um and this is a little bit less about permits and more about um code enforcement. Uh one thing we've heard several of us have heard from is people getting fines for their tall grass in the middle of all this as well. Is there anything we can do about that to wave that for a certain time period or at least in those areas um to alleviate that because I mean they've this city can't keep up with what we have to mow because of what all we're having to deal with with the floods. And I know some people are having that same issue. >> That is not a question really for for his department, but it is as far as code enforcement, there's not an issue with that as far as making sure that we're not uh we've already have individuals that were already damaged by the the storm itself. We definitely don't want to add to that as well. So, we'll take a look at that. If you get me information on those individuals or anyone that's received any type of a notice, uh, we can take a look at that and make sure that we're working with them and that they're not, uh, that's not an issue for them at this point. >> Perfect. Okay. >> Thanks, Aaron. >> Thank you. >> May I ask one question with that? Um, mainly to to Daniel, I know that the we're getting back into our normal rotations with that mowing and all and specifically in my district, we have that the red aoyo that goes

[0:22:54] through mine and you know, everyone uh if we could not just limit that to the the floodstricken area because um it's taking our our employees trying to not only get back in in normal rotation, but to there's a lot of attention uh right around you know that flood type. But if we could make that citywide >> because that, you know, as that grass is growing, we still have our employees that are concentrating on the north and east. U so that's putting them behind and getting the other districts, you know, up to up to par as far as the tall grass. So, if we could consider uh making that citywide uh for a you know specified period of time. >> Okay. Mayor, I'll visit with Shane about that and u we'll we'll work through that. >> Good deal. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. >> Do we have any public comment on that item? Have do I have a motion to approve item J? >> Move motion by Patrick to approve. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Joe. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes 6. Item L, consider resolutions in support of number one, a future interstate highway formula program. Number two, a future interstate feasibility study for the Heartland Expressway, Theodore Roosevelt Express, and a portion of ports to Plains High Priority Quarters. Number three, future interstate designation for the H Heartland Expressway, Theodore Roosevelt Expressway, and a portion of ports to Plains High Priority Corridors and numbering future interstate segments. Major, good morning. >> Good morning, sir. >> Good morning, Corn. Thank you for allowing me to be here today. >> Question. >> Yes. The question is simply to ask Major Hoffines if he would be kind enough to

[0:24:57] bring us up to date on what this means for the community. This is a big deal, the probably the biggest impact on our community going forward and we'd love to hear an update from you, sir. >> Yes, ma'am. This this is a big deal. Uh continuation of this effort. Um we already have designation all the way from Laredo up to Denver basically. Um but then we've got two more stretches. Um hopefully you've got the map there that shows you what needs to be included because originally this was planned to be a trade route all the way from Mexico to Canada. So through our people here in St. Angelo uh council people, the mayor and people from Tex dot visiting Washington and several conversations with the state. We finally got a congressional design designation for the ports to planes section which we're in. So that federal designation is in place. Now here's the pro here's part of the part of the issue which leads us up to where we are today. We spend a lot of money and a lot of effort improving ports along the border to get trucks through faster to get them through more reliable to make it more efficient and then we dump them onto a highway system that isn't prepared to handle them. Any of you that have driven I35 lately know exactly what I mean. That delay is very costly and it's frustrating. So the idea was formed, hey, let's put a north south interstate over here between I25 and New Mexico and I35. Let's give that border crossing some relief. So ports to Plains was born. So now here we are trying to pump money

[0:27:01] into this. The problem is that federal government has never had a funding source for interstate construction. They've always been quick to designate, but there's never been any funding. It was all, "Okay, Texas, you're this strip has this corridor has been designated as Porsch Plains I27. It's gone through Congress. It's ready to go. Go build it." But there's no money for it. And this is why if you look back at like I 10 took 30 years to build it because it was built in pieces. And right now I27 is being built in pieces. San Angelo is participating. We're building a relief route. So our little portion is being done. We've got a couple of projects left to make that come completely to fruition. But the MO policy board, Tex DOT, FHWA, they've all been cooperating to do those little projects that are leading to that relief route, which is going to increase safety. It's going to increase travel time reliability and it's going to increase economy when it comes to all that freight trying to get through or around San Angelo to go on further north. Maybe they're going to Chicago, maybe they're going to Denver, maybe they're going all the way to Canada or maybe they're coming the other direction. So, every community along there has been doing their little part and Tex dot did a feasibility study to see exactly what needed to happen on the entire length of the ports to Plains Corridor here in Texas. What we did, what they didn't or couldn't do is do the Heartland Expressway up north or the Theodore Roosevelt Expressway up north. That's

[0:29:05] out of Texas. So, there was nothing they could do there. So, these resolutions are number one to get Congress to establish a formula fund that will actually fund inter future interstates, including what we're doing right now. So the formula will all be on okay if we've got a multi-state corridor which we have here how much does each state have of that corridor that's unfinished. So then that will be the main part of the formula. It won't be okay funding by population which is what we have now but it will actually be interstate funding based on those numbers. So, this is a great thing because this is actually going to make this a cohesive effort all the way from border to border. It's going to actually establish some funding. It's going to get rules. It's going to give rules for actually acquiring that funding and then from there on things get better. And why is it important to us? It's important to us because the more that gets finished, the greater the economic development for St. Angelo and the surrounding areas. We've got we've got so much here. And you've heard it before. We've got f fuel here. We've got fiber. We've got food. We've got everything here. And we need to transport that stuff. This is going to energize that transportation which is going to increase the reason businesses and people want to relocate to San Angelo. So it is important to us and I realize that when we look at those corridors well you know they're clear up there. They have a huge impact on us down here. Especially when you start thinking about

[0:31:08] all of the business that's in Canada that wants to come this way. We already have Canadian trucking companies that have established here. And there's a reason for it because we're sitting right on the edge of the Perian Basin. They can operate out of here. They can go to the Peran Basin, get their business done. They can be back in the same day. Their drivers can be home for dinner. So there's a reason St. Angelo is very very important. It's also very important as you've heard from Michael Looney uh to the freight in to the rail industry and one of these days, keeping our fingers crossed, US Customs is going to be done with their part of the Presidio Bridge crossing and we're going to start seeing economic development from that as well. So there's a lot going on in this corridor. There's a lot that we need to be paying attention to. Thank goodness we've had elected officials here in the past that have been passionate about it, have been stalwart and have been pushing this effort. And actually what it kind of did, I-14 came along that got designated and it had all the energy. And everybody was saying, "Well, what about I27? It just kind of fizzled. Well, then we got our mayor and a bunch of other officials. They headed to Washington again. All of a sudden, now I27 has all the energy. I14 is sitting there motoring along. So, we don't need to worry about I14 right now. We need to worry about this effort. So the uh advisory committee for ports to planes came out and they requested that communities um adopt these three resolutions so that we can get some strength, some cohesiveness and a cooperation along the entire corridor from border to border.

[0:33:13] And that's where we stand now. Any other questions? questions from anybody else? I >> I just like to make a quick comment. Uh there's been studies that show um communities that within a five mile radius of an interstate, the success that they meet with economic development is tremendous. >> Yes. >> And those communities that are further away, we don't have for a community our size not to have an interstate running through here. It's detrimental to our economic development efforts. And as we look at truly supplementing and reducing that burden on taxpayers, we want to make sure we bring that economic development in here that bring sales tax revenues in here. So it's it's it's vitally important. So these resolutions are tremendous. That's something that we want to support. We want to make sure that we have a unified study, not a fragmented study that each group would have to do individually. Uh but this is something that's key and I'm glad that it's coming forth right now for city council for decision. >> Thank you so much for your excellent summary. We are I believe we are in support. So motion to approve. >> Second. >> Have a motion by Karen, second by Harry. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Say no. >> Motion carries 6. Did we have any public comment, Heather? >> Okay, we will move into our regular agenda. We will go to item A. Uh consider approving source well contract number 01 0925- FEC for the purchase of one mulching attachment from Vermeier, Texas, Louisiana in the amount of 63,888 utilizing storm water fund balance and authorizing city manager to negotiate and execute all related documents. Mr. Ryan Kramer. Morning, sir. >> Good morning, everyone. Uh as read, this item is requesting the approval to purchase a mulching head for an excavator. Uh this device is used to uh remove woody vegetation, including trees. Um the intention here is to use it in some of our storm drains.

[0:35:16] Specifically related in the short term to some of our storm events. Um we do have a lot of debris there. Um and some of the vegetation has helped keep it there. So this this device will be used in the short term for that purpose and then has many long-term benefits there. The reason you see it on your regular agenda, which normally would be on your consent agenda, is because we are requesting storm water fund balance for that purchase and that does require this regular agenda discussion. Uh I know I've been brief, but I'm happy to elaborate. >> Daniel, you have any comments you want to make? It definitely is important at this point, not just for the our standard maintenance, but we look at uh the storm that we just went through as well and all the flooding. Uh this this is definitely a key component. It's something that we want to move forward with. >> Any public comment, Heather? >> May I have a motion to approve item A? >> Yes, sir. You may. >> Morning, Ryan. Uh >> just for my own knowledge, was this already planned pre flood or was this because of the flood? Now we're trying to >> clean them out. Now >> there was a concept of of this tool being a useful tool for our department. The the flood has definitely sped that up and and encouraged us to look more strongly at it so we can continue with the cleanup. Got >> Thank you. Good question. >> Other questions for Ryan? >> Second. >> Did we have a motion? >> Motion. Make the motion. >> Karen Karen makes a motion. Harry, is your second still good? >> Harry second. All those in favor say I. I. >> Any opposed? Motion passes 6. Thank you, Ryan. >> Harry's trying to move us along. Item item B, public hearing to consider the 2025 to 2029 5-year consolidated plan for the use of CDBG and home grant funds and authorizing the city manager to execute all related documents and certifications. presentation by interim director uh Morgan Chegwiden of neighborhood and

[0:37:20] family services. >> Good morning. >> Morning Morgan. >> So today what I have before you is the five-year plan for the HUD grants that the city receives and um this is our culmination our final public hearing to gather public input and to report back to you on what can be done with the funding this year. So, there are two grants administered um by HUD to the city of St. Angelo that I'm sure you're aware of, but just for everybody's um information, which is the CDBG community development block grant, as well as the home investment partnership, HME, um we had this process to guide the use of these federal funds. That's the most important part to um the feds when we publish when we go back to them. We also published the um the proposed draft with a 30-day notice and held two public hearings, two public meetings um at the rec centers in the evening to try to collect some public input as well. And then today is a a proper public hearing to to get that final input. So of course um this is we collected input from citizens, community partners and leaders. um we collected their insights and prioriti priorities and how best to benefit low and moderate income residents. Now, a lot of our conversation around all of this really did hinge on the the local events of of the flood of July 4th and how to support those folks. And so, it's it's important to note that there are, you know, immediate resources being deployed and working for for that event. um while this is um a standalone five-year plan for the the bigger picture. So the um for the CDBG grant one for fiscal year 26 going into the new year that we're considering u the grant award was largely flat uh which we were really grateful for. We were prepared for significant cuts to this program. Um there was there were headlines that this was going to be cut and and completely defunded and so we were prepared for significant cuts and what the how the

[0:39:23] city would be poised to act. So although this is a five-year plan that's before you year one of the five-year plan is largely fully funded. We had not even a $3,000 decrease from fiscal year 25 to 26. And so we're we're grateful that we can continue operations largely unchanged. So, um, as we go through each of these lines, there's a level of admin that the program funds. Uh, the rehab program that we work with property owners that have repairs that are needed. Uh, the rehab program, minor repairs, and emergency repairs. When folks come in asking for help, we just figure out in which category they really fit there. Um, the HUD grant has also long funded a code compliance officer. uh we thought this was the year that we would no longer be able to do that and that the general fund would have to either fund that or no longer have that position, but because the grant funding largely held, we were able to continue that. And then we have a debt service component here. There's an old section 108 loan, a couple of them for local parks, and that just by design decreases a bit every year, and that decreased about the same as our um grant award decreased. So, um good news there on the CDBG side. a total um availability of $643,137 on the home side. So for that program, it is a smaller grant of $314,000. Um admin of course by by design is smaller as well. We have a first-time home buyer assistance program that decreased a small amount. Um, we have a partnership with MHMR to run our tenantbased rental assistance program and they are are not matching with tenants that are eligible and so the the prior year allocation of $64,000 um is not on track to be fully expended this year. So, it only made sense to go ahead and cut that down to a a more reasonable level of $49,000. Um, and they understood that. And in the event they do have eligible folks, we can look at prior year funds, additional

[0:41:27] allocation, we'll assess, you know, end of first quarter, second quarter, if more funding needs to be addressed there. It's not our intent to leave um MHMR clients with no resources. It's just addressing the current trend. Um and we'll be poised to move on that if needed into the new year. And then our contract with Galilee. go. Um, Galilee CDC is our our CHOTO which is we're required to have by HUD and um this this report is a bit wonky and I apologize for that but um it states that the prior allocation was is that that's the technical term. >> I was going to say that's the technical term isn't it? Yes. Wonky. Yes. >> What is a CHTO >> Michael? It's our community I don't know community housing development organization. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, so we uh the this this graph just raw prior to propose shows that the Galilee CDC aotment would increase from 105,000 to 185,000. But last year, if you'll recall, we actually made Galilee whole by using prior year funds uh which were available and and eligible for this purpose. So really Galilee is is remaining largely flat. Um this is not a big increase to Galilee. It just the accounting looks like this. Um but in real life what what Galilee receives from the city from the HUD grants um is is is unchanged for them. So that's what I have um before you proposed um and I'm happy to answer any questions and of course entertain the the statutoily required public comment public hearing. >> Daniel, you have any comments you want to make? The only comment in >> I don't and you talked about this a while ago Morgan this is really kind of a roadmap for the next five years based on funding and of course this year we do have funding who knows what happens next year I can tell you that over the past eight years the funding has dropped significantly and so at this point we're prayerful that we continue with the funding and we'll kept keep requesting

[0:43:30] it as well but again this is just that roadmap and uh It it involves the whole community from leadership to uh citizens that want to come in and let us know what we should be prioritizing. What you see before you is what that priority truly is at this point. But again, just a road map and again we hope that we just continue receiving that funding here in the future. >> Council members, anybody have any questions for Morgan? >> I do. Morning, Morgan. Um what is the best way for the public to um apply for these? >> Good question. Um, so it's um it's coming by our office. And so, for example, if you don't know if you might qualify for um rehab, minor repair, or emergency repairs, but you have a need, lots of information on our website at sangelo.gov, but also just coming to our office and talking to our really talented and tenured staff and just saying, "This is what I'm facing. What can I help with? I've got um a water heater that's out. I've got a roof that's leaking. I've got this, that, and the other." And so, um, from the from the citizen side, you may not know what you qualify for. So, um, on our website, it lists all the income requirements because these are for lowincome and moderate income households. Um, but you would be surprised at the the number of financial loans that do actually qualify for these. So, um, look on the look online, see if you fall under those income requirements, and if you do, come by our office, give us a call, and we'll walk you through the process. is at the department neighborhood family for services office. Is that what you're talking about? >> Correct. In the backside of 52 West College. We're upstairs from Wick. >> Thank you. >> Other questions, Joe? >> I don't want to get down too far of a rabbit hole, but is this strictly for homes or could this be like for a tree by a home like that and maybe an elderly person needed help removing that tree before it fell on the house? the we actually curious don't vent too much in the weeds because I know we >> we did identify a need in the community that was because of the winter storm Yuri there are in some of our older

[0:45:33] neighborhoods a ton of dead trees that are a risk to the home and possibly impeding the right of way that folks that didn't have means to take down those trees when they died um that that is just a disaster waiting to happen and because we um didn't have an increase in funds we didn't propose that as a um as a as an activity. Um but I do think it could fall under rehab. We would just need more money. >> Okay, cool. >> Which I think is what everyone's going to tell you today. >> Thank you. >> Approve. >> Second. >> Have a motion by Harry and a second by Joe. I was looking for public. Do we have public comment, Heather? >> Yes. Jamal Schuberg. >> Okay. We we'll come back if y'all got a question. >> Jamal Shumpert, 2817 North Urban Street. Um, Mr. Weiss, to your to your point, everybody knows I'm at these meetings. I'm well informed, in tune with these things, but I I didn't get the invite to that meeting they had at the neighborhood and family services. It's because nobody knows where the meetings are. And Mr. Keley, to your point, when it comes to first-time home buyers, I think they have to go straight to the bank. and the bank refers them if they're under those eligibility requirements with the city. Uh all the other programs she was talking about, they have an application system in which you do go into the office for, but the first-time home buyers program is a little bit a little bit different. She did come up here and this was supposed to be about an evaluation and she didn't tell you how many affordable homes they built this year, how many homes they used touched with CDBG funding or how many they did with home funding. Uh it was just a bunch of numbers up here. And what what I did see mostly was $129,000 in administration. Uh if you actually knew their role as a monitor, I don't think you'd pay them $129,000 for that. They're they're monitoring Galilee who is doing

[0:47:35] pretty much all of the work. Uh I mean we do run the CDBG program which we do the repairs on but it's not even clear if we're using Galile contractors or our contractors to do the repair. The entire program itself is confusing. The reason I know this is because I'm in works to create a program for another city government in Texas. These things that they're doing can easily be turned in. And I I thought about uh doing it, but it would only hurt us here in the city. But what they're doing themselves is hurting us. We got an affordable housing program that's been going for about at least 15 years that I know of, probably even 10 years before that. And you can't tell on the north and east side that we've been building homes and fixing them for that long. And furthermore, we won't even know if some of the homes we fixed and put money into over the years were affected by the flood where we just did a zero sub game, put money into something that we then doing a correct environmental review because that's what's needed on those. So, I I would take a a deeper look into how that program is being ran. Uh I know Mr. under Mr. Solace, he I picked his brain so much. Uh he was he was he's he's a great guy uh at times. You know, we disagreed as I always do with a lot of people, but uh Mr. Salis thought about fixing up the homes and building yourself uh real cheap uh selling it to the citizens and having that type of program. And that way, if you create a loan program and you get a 0% interest loan to these citizens at like a $80,000 home, I'm pretty sure they'll pay it off pretty soon. and and you know it'll help increase taxes. It'll be better. But thank you. Sorry about that. >> Thank you, Jamal. Other public comment. We have We have a motion by Harry and a second by Joe. Uh all those in favor say

[0:49:38] I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes six to zero. Move to item C. discussion and direction regarding properties located in the floodway and flood plane and authorization to apply to the National Resource Conservation Services Emergency Watershed Protection Program and authorizing the city manager to negotiate and execute any related documents, operations director Patrick Frank. Morning sir. >> Good morning, mayor and council. um with the July 4th flood, um we as city staff are obviously doing a whole bunch of different things that we normally don't do, but along with that um that event, it also opened up some additional opportunities that aren't normally available for us. Thank you. >> There you go. So, I want to start off with just a little bit of a education session, if you will. Um we have in the city what is called a a designated floodway in the city in in throughout our town. Um this is a floodway that is authorized and and allocated by FEMA. Um and it has certain restrictions along with it. So what you'll see here um that cross-hatched area is what we call the flood way. that is an area of town or an area of any waterway that has a a high potential of risk of flood waters, runoff, um impacting a property that's within that boundary um during any rain event. Right in that little blue area that's just beyond that hash area, that's what's called the flood plane. That is the 100red-year flood plane. um in an event in certain events that um meet a certain volume downfall um in a time frame, those areas could be potentially impacted by water runoff and flooding. And then outside of that, we have the hazard zone, which is essentially the 500year flood flood plane. In events such as, well, smaller than what July

[0:51:43] 4th was, but um in those extreme large events, those are also areas that based on their elevation um of those particular properties, it could be impacted by flood waters. Uh so that's that is a map that is designated by FEMA or areas that are designated by FEMA. Um it has to do with insurance. um on that. So if you look at at the next slide here on your left hand side there um just for reference are it's very hard to see it's very very um dim but everything in orange there was part of the inundation from the July 4th flood. So you can see there just the impact of what that flood had on our city. If you look over to on the right hand side for just to kind of put it in perspective, all of the black outlined properties there are within that inundation area. So the black outlines are part of that orange on the left. The flood way, the flood plane, and the hazard zone, you can see how they cut through there and how it relates to what happened on July 4th. And I show that to say while we can try to do something within that boundary, in some events it's it's going to far exceed what we're capable of of pre preventing or protecting. Right, >> Patrick? Just for some uh perspective and idea. Tell us what we're looking at in terms of the area of town in this on your left hand side there. Obviously, we can see there on the one on the Houston heart, but generally where does that from the north to the south to the east to the west, what are we looking? >> So, you see everything. So, Green Acres is going to be all the way up here on the on the top and then you're going to get down here in the sports complex down here at the bottom. So, you can kind of see that swath all the way through town there, okay? Of where that that drainage runoff ran through the middle of town. So, some of the difficulties that staff faces um when it comes to this floodway, flood plane, um and hazard area, um

[0:53:47] properties and structures in the floodway that are imminent uh are at an imminent risk of future flooding. So, if you're in the floodway, um you can pretty much guarantee that you're going to at some point um experience a a flood a flooding event. properties and structures in the flood plane are at a high risk. So you can almost guarantee that at some point in St. Angelo, we all know that in St. Angelo it doesn't rain and then all of a sudden it rains. And so that flood plane that's also at a high risk for getting some flood water up near your home or even potentially into your home and property. The structures that were damaged in the flood um within the flood way, they cannot be rehab rehabilitated per our ordinance. The floodway is restricted from any buildings, any structures being placed in that floodway. You can't move dirt in the floodway. You can't change that flow pattern in any way without doing very specific engineering studies um that go along with that. So, the flood way is very very restricted as to what we can do. And a lot of those homes that were built prior to any of these regulations coming down and being set forth were impacted by the flood. And so they're having to balance, well, how do I rebuild? How do I rehab? How do I get a permit when our permitting ordinances do not allow that to be to happen? And for good reason, right? Because it's we it is at at a large potential for for flooding in the future. Um the structures damaged in the flood within the flood plane though while they can build in the flood plane they have to have certain requirements. They have to be built at a certain elevation. They have to have um protection some of the other other things that go along with that. All of that costs money. All of that is necessary if you're going to build in the flood plane that's presented and approved by the city in order to protect those properties not only from the person that's building it today but for any future buyers of that potential property.

[0:55:49] And that's all done through our planning and our permitting department. Um, engineering works closely with them. So, our engineer, our flood plane manager is the one that is is orchestrating and and going through and reviewing all of those and levying what they can and cannot do within those those designated areas. I mentioned at the start of this that the July 4th flood opened up some opportunities that aren't normally available. One of those opportunities is through the National Resource Conservation Service. They have a program called the Emergency Watershed Protection Program. And that program, it's one program, but it kind of breaks up into two categories. And I took the liberty of naming these two different categories for for simplicity and and for conversation purposes. So, there's an armoring side, which is more focused on the public works side. It's it's allowing funding to do projects that protect infrastructure, so roadways, sidewalks, water lines, sewer lines from erosion, um drought, andor flooding. Um the buyout program though is more on the private side. It allows a government entity to have fun or provides funding to a governmental entity to buy out private properties that are at that are at imminent risk of flooding, drought, or erosion. So that's two different components and I'll go through each one of those in a little more detail on the next slides. So when we talk about the EWP armoring program, um it provides funding for projects that safeguard infrastructure from floods, droughts, and products of erosion. So the way that this program works is the city selects sites. The NRCS approves those sites for funding. Then it's the approval process. It's a 75% 25% cost share. So the NRCS pays for 75% of the program. The city's required to pay 25% of the program. Uh they provide all the engineering analysis and the design of it. We bid it out. We

[0:57:51] construct it and then we are responsible for maintaining those improvements in their in their perpetuity. NRCS kind of says that it's a 10-year life. That's just the number that they put on it. I expect it's more for 15 20 year life especially with maintenance activities that are that are happening on that. So on the right hand side we uh we took a trip with the NRCS kind of looked at some potential projects and some potential sites. These are just a sample of those that we looked at that could be and and probably do qualify. So underneath the 19th Street Bridge right there along the river, you can see all the reeling, all the erosion, all the everything that's happening there that's impacting those piles that are on the bridge. Don't worry, nothing's at harm of falling apart right now. But if you can see if that continues that it could potentially start causing a problem there. So what this program does is it provides 7525% split of funding to come in there, armor that, put in rip wrap, concrete, stabilize all of that base so that that does not continue and it protects that infrastructure. Same thing on the outfall at Rio Drive, just right out here outside the convention center. Um that outfall is falling apart that which means that that drainage structure that drains that neighborhood is at risk of failing. If that if that infrastructure fails, that neighborhood is at at risk for a hazard due to flooding and and erosion. And where concrete crosses over South Ko Drive um at out at the lake, whenever the concrete comes down really hard, it over tops that road. You can see we have some rip wrap there, but that is constantly blown out that walks away. So, what this program would do would better armor that. it would not only reestablish that rip wrap um but it would also grout that rip wrap in so it didn't didn't continue to wash away. Again, those are just examples. There's a whole slew of other projects that are lower in cost, higher in cost. 19th Street is probably the most extreme one that we would see in this program. Um but that's what EWP armoring would be.

[0:59:58] Any questions on the armoring side? questions for Patrick. >> Do you have a a time frame? >> So, part of this and and I'll get to it, but I'll go ahead and and we have 60 days from the date of the event to put in an application in RCS, a letter of request to be inv. So, we have 60 days from >> I think it's July 7th or whatever they designated it was. Um and then they have 60 days to evaluate our sites and and say yes these are good. So and then the process starts for design and construction and so it's not a quick turnaround but it is it does get the ball moving fairly quickly as far as authorization's concerned >> and it sounds like we have to make that decision fairly quickly as well. >> Yes. So that's at the end here. It's an action item on this on this particular uh item today. So the second category, EWP buyout. Um it provides funding for a voluntary buyout program of properties that are imminent risk of damage, floods, droughts, and products of erosion. Keep in mind, while we talked about the floodway, the flood plane, and the hazard zone earlier, this program isn't necessarily restricted to those areas. Okay? This program can be used throughout the city on any property that is at hazard. And we have properties all over the city that we're well aware of as staff need have a um a high exposure or high um experience of flooding or or water coming up to their homes. So there's a lot of properties throughout the city who could could take advantage of this of this uh program. Again, it is completely voluntary. the property owner must opt in to the program before we can even start discussions with them on whether we can buy out their property. So they'll there's a there's a general notification then there's a very specific notification that goes out that specific notification has to be signed opted into

[1:02:01] and return back to the city before we can start negotiating. So it is it is not a taking it is not anything like that. It is a voluntary cooperative relationship that us and the private property owners will have on that particular piece of property. Again it's a 7525% cost share. Um the approval process goes through the NRCS. There's a whole slew of of things that have to happen for that approval. They classify it as a simple 25step program for each property that you want to buy. So there is a very well- vetted well doumented process in place to get this done. So it's nothing that can go through and and just be pencil whipped through. It is a it is a very comprehensive program. Not only is it just buying out properties, but it also covers additional costs um to that and in payment to that property owner. So it's the purchase of the property. if there's tenants on the property and you have to relocate those tenants in order to sell them, there's some relocation costs for those tenants. Um, some remediation money, so if we have to go in and clear the property, um, it'll help pay for that clearing of the property and then reestablishment. So, if we do any grading work and we have to put vegetation back down, it'll help pay for that vegetation. So, it really is a comprehensive program. It's not just a buyout, it's a buyout and reestablishment. The criteria of this program is there's some legal restrictions that go along with this. We have to own the property. We have to own the property in perpetuity and we cannot do anything with the property. We can't allow any structures to be put on it. Has to be maintained in a free and clear space. There's some variation in that. Um if you want to do walking trails and nature trails and stuff like that through the area, but for now we're going to keep it simple and we're going to say we're going to remove obstacles. We're going to clear it and we're going to make sure that nothing is if it does flood, nothing is going to be impacted from it. So, we as staff obviously um this is a

[1:04:06] big deal, right? Um this could grow very very quickly, very very fast, especially if you look at the full inundation area. So, we would like we understand that we're going to have to pair this program down in some case. The picture there on the right, if you'll see again, again, that is that area south of the loop within the East Angelo draw confines that were the biggest impact and are usually the biggest impact during large rain events that happen on the north side of town. So, this area not only was the biggest impact in July 4th, but they also experience a lot of impact in normal rain events as well in the right areas. Come to find out on July 4th, Short Street is also a major area of concern for us. Um, and looking at Short Street, you know, there was a lot of comments about why don't y'all fix, why don't y'all do why don't we can't. There's no good way to solve that problem on Short Street. It's a natural ply lake. It's a depression. Everything in the area runs to that area. So, this is a perfect opportunity to utilize this program to get those properties under our control so that we can ensure that a private property owner isn't experienced the same thing that they that they just experienced. Um, coincidentally enough, this area was identified within a a the North Chaburn Street sidewalk project for us as a playa and a potential drainage area um for that area. We weren't aware of it up until that point. So, um, it was proven out in the July 4th flood. We really want to do something in this area. So, again, it's not enlisted in the flood way per FEMA or flood plane or any of that, but it is an area that would apply to this program given the history that we just saw. So, there's other areas around town, era street, Evelyn, some of those properties too that could be take that, you know, could utilize this program as well. Just to kind of put it into perspective, um the areas there on the right just south of the loop, you're talking about

[1:06:07] 110 properties with a valuation of about $12 million. So, kind of put that into perspective of what we're talking about. Just if we were to focus south of the loop in that area and that's the only >> Say one more time how many properties >> 110 properties that are touching the flood way. Not the flood plane, just the flood way, just the hatched area. with a current CAD valuation of about $12 million. The cool thing about this program is when we're negotiating is they utilize that CAD value as a value for the property. So homeowners are not we're not negotiating and and bargaining with negotiators, right? We're using an established market value per the CAD pre flood of what that value of that property is to to start that conversation. So, there's two things I need from you guys um today. Um discussion and direction. So, do y'all want us to start talking about buying out some of these properties? Do you want us to start looking at as staff some of these armoring programs and taking advantage of this NRCS program to do some of these things? This is a big ass. This is a big lift. If you talk about 110 properties just there, that's 110 individual projects that are going to have to be vetted by staff, coordinated by staff. Real estate's going to need some help um to get this done. So, it is it's a huge ask. It's also a huge monetary obligation for us. Um, it's important. It's very important, especially when you talk about the floodway and what could this could mean for the life of the city of St. Angelo in perpetuity. Uh, you know, it's money well spent in my opinion, but it's money that we don't necessarily have today. So, we'll have to find it. And that's part of the discussion uh that I'd like to have with you guys or have you all have is how much where maybe that's just sending

[1:08:12] finance and and Tina and Daniel to and us to go find some money um and and come up come back with options. So I'm not asking for an obligation to that side of y'all today. The only obligation I need from y'all today is this action item that says authorization to apply to this program. That gets the ball rolling. That gets it started. Everything sequent sequential to that will come back to council for further approval before we we start expending any type of money. This is just authorization to apply to that program so that we can get those projects in front of them and get them started, get that ball rolling. >> Tommy, if I may, majority of these uh homes south of Houston belong to Patrick and I. They're in our district. We share that. Um, so I'm going to say this. They're not going to be able to rebuild if they're in the floodway. Is that my understanding? >> That is that is correct. If their home is in the flood, if their structure is in the flood. >> From my perspective, we need to do something. So, I would I would suggest that we pursue this plan. Figure out how we're going to make it work. uh and then look at long-term what are we going to use that those particular areas for uh green space uh whatever whatever we need to do but I I would actually let other other council people talk first but I'd like to see this go forward let me ask Daniel Daniel you have any com and you're correct basically those individuals that are in the floodway aren't going to be able to build there regardless us, you know, and that's uh that uh that's troubling to me because there's individuals there that live there for such a long time, houses that were paid off. Uh and they're now they're having to move, be relocated, now they're going to have to rent. They're going to have to do whatever they can uh to survive. And that's very problematic for me. I would prefer to take a look at as as uh as Patrick just mentioned a while ago. It's a deeper

[1:10:15] discussion financially that that uh I would have to have with finance uh with Tina to look at uh the possibility for funding. Let me ask you a question Patrick on the 7525 as far as the cost share um what percentage of that can be in on our end. So it potentially all of it could be in kind, right? So as we do our due diligence with environmental studies and planning and development um stuff, real estate activities, all of those can be part of our 25% match. >> I just want to make sure to make that clear because some of it it's not going to be the monetary portion that the city puts into it. And uh I just want to make be have the opportunity to be able to explore what the cost would be on our end. And uh I would recommend that we actually move forward uh with with what Patrick's recommending on our end and to at least pursue and see what we can do to help these individuals. I do want to make sure that in the future uh you know from here on out every time it rains uh I'm going to be worried that there's going to people along that way that are going to be they're going to be suffering again and I don't want that to happen. So just uh I do ask for us to give give us the opportunity to sit down and look at the financial impact of it and come back to council and say this is what we think we can do moving forward. >> Uh other council members have comments or questions. >> Yes, I have one. Patrick, the homes that are identified, you say 110 of them. I like like Daniel, I have a real problem telling people to get out of their home. But could they if you did not do this plan, those citizens do have the ability to to rebuild if they want to. Is there >> I'll have to let uh permits and planning uh answer that specifically. The way I understand it is there's some heavy restrictions on what if they can build in that floodway. So, I know you cannot put structures in the floodway, but in some of these cases, half the property is in the floodway, half of it is in the flood plane. So, there's some gray area there, but um I don't know if Aaron

[1:12:18] wants to come and speak specifically to that. >> Address. >> Well, is is this an all or nothing thing? You know, if you've got 110 homes right there, uh >> No, ma'am. It's again, it's completely voluntary. So the property owner has to say yes, I want to explore this pro this program. Yes, I want to have those conversations and that'll open it up up for us. >> So they still have their free will to to we can >> Right. And and please note too that this program doesn't affect anything that they would get from FEMA as part of the flood response and and any payment from FEMA for those damages. Let's hear from Aaron because they may want to but they may not be able to. So Aaron, walk us through that if you don't mind. >> Yes. Aaron Venoy, director of planning development services. So to answer the uh the question, Councilwoman is it depends on the percentage of destruction. There's a clause in our zoning ordinance that depends on the percentage of destruction and what they're zoned. And then when you're talking about a flood way, that's very very restricted by FEMA. We work with our engineering services department to look at those properties to see are they eligible to build back or not. More than likely the answer is no. Flood plane is different. They could get an elevation certificate to raise their property, their structures high enough that might not be affected by a 100red-year flood. There's a process to go through our engineering services department for that. And then that 500y year, that orange area that Patrick was talking about, they don't have to do anything special. It's just an awareness of our community that when you have a rain event such as this, that that can cause damage to those structures, which then causes additional cost for everyone. And so from a a fiscal standpoint for the city as a whole, while we certainly have compassion and concern for those property owners, this might be a viable way for those property owners to obtain

[1:14:21] some money for a piece of property that may not be buildable in the future. And then the city's able to manage those properties moving forward so that they could be used for future parks or future trails, but they wouldn't be properties that we would have future damage and destruction because of flooding events in these areas. But the the permitting process, it really kind of comes down to percentage of destruction of whether they can go back. But we work with each one individually. Um if there's a concern, we certainly bring those forward to planning commission, city council um to help us make those decisions. But normally it really just depends on percentage of destruction and where they fall on the map. >> In doing in doing that, you know, it comes up with developers quite a bit, the uh detention ponds. If let's say the majority of these homes followed that and we took ownership of them, would that not necessarily fix completely, but would that uh having those detention ponds, would that solve some of our our problems with I know when developers are trying to put in uh would that would that help solve that problem? and it would be at the expense of the city and not that of the developer. >> I think that's what some of the evaluation that Patrick was uh talking about is that evaluate those areas of what makes sense for plyia ponds. Yes. And areas that would help slow down and contain water and slowly release it back to the East Angelo draw and those areas. The challenge with our current storm water ordinance, it really doesn't trigger that in these older parts of town. it's with new development and new areas for storm water detention because the properties individually usually aren't don't hit the threshold for triggering it. Um, but that I'm sure that is on Patrick and Shane's mind of how do we help mitigate that water flow to slow it down, contain it, and then let it flow down at a reasonable rate into those areas. of course they would be working through studies to figure

[1:16:23] those things out >> that yeah operating in in tandem two separate projects but could be you know accomplished at the same time really >> and and I think it is important to note too that we have a storm water fee and a storm water fund but it I want to make sure that we define that that storm water in this definition and what's been assigned by past councils for that fee structure only deals with water quality, right? It does nothing to for water quantity, which is typically the drainage stuff that you're seeing that we're talking about today. There is not a funding mechanism that the city currently has to generate funds for these type of projects, for the type of projects you're talking about. We're looking at a rate study. We're in the middle of a rate study right now that can be a component of that of a drainage fee that comes down that provides a funding and a revenue stream to purchase properties to build detention ponds to do things to help protect um people from flooding and and runoff impact. But currently today as it stands we do not have a funding mechanism to pay for those type of projects. So that's why I said we'll have to work with Tina to find money for this particular program because this is happening faster than that rate study could go into effect. But um it is on our radar. It is absolutely something we're concerned about. It's something that is a priority for us as staff. It's something we deal with all the time every time it rains. So we're putting together a plan to come back to you guys later and and potentially discuss some of those options. >> Patrick, >> anybody else have comments or questions? Can you go back to your flood map? >> Yes, sir. >> Um, and some of this is just a statement for anybody that's paying attention to this. Um, to the >> Do you want the big one? >> Yeah, if you've got it. Uh, so the the blue area, and a lot of people ask why, you know, why didn't they have flood insurance, stuff like that. Any of the gray area, a bank is not going to require flood insurance. the blue area when you go to buy a home

[1:18:25] in that area, that's when they do a flood report and they see that it's on there and they say you're going to need flood insurance. And so I think that's what people didn't realize is how much way outside of FEMA that was affected. And that's why nobody had flood insurance because it was not on anybody's 500y year radar. Um, and people can go find that. You can just Google FEMA flood map by address, put your address in, and it'll pinpoint exactly where you're at and you you'll be able to see on that map. Um I'm all in favor of this trying to find a way to fund it. Uh cuz we've I'm sure Harry's had calls too. We've had several people call and they say, "Hey, can I rebuild?" And we go and it's right in the middle of that floodway. Um you know, they had no idea cuz they built it in 1960 and live there ever since and and just never rained enough for it to actually hit them. But then we look it up on the map and it's like, "Yeah, you're right there." Um so I'm all for it trying to figure out a way to fund it. whatever we can do. >> We we as staff have in the throughout the years been able to pick and buy little pieces here and there through there, but comprehensively we own comparatively almost none of that floodway um from the city. It is almost all privately owned. We may own a handful of 10 to 12 12 little parcels throughout that, but for the most part, it is all privately owned, which tells us we cannot do anything on it. We can't even enter that property to clean it up, to mitigate it, to mow it, to do anything that helps that drainage through that property. >> Anybody else? >> So, so just >> go ahead. >> You You can get out of having flood insurance. If you own the property, if you owe money on the property, then yes, that mortgage company's going to make you have that flood insurance if it's in there. But if you own it outright, you can opt out out of it. There's a lot of people on the north end that have already paid for their house and they didn't have flood insurance because of that. Um, another quick question and and I guess if there's a structure

[1:20:27] there and let's say they're just putting sheetrock back and it can they go back in there and do that without going through the city without all that and it still be in that property area? I know that's a big loaded question. Thank you, Erin. Eranoy again. U we do have a process. Um if it doesn't trigger a building permit, which means they're not tuck touching a structural member and they're not having to get a mechanical, electrical, or plumbing permit. Um replacing sheetrock in those properties that are outside the floodway that are outside the hatched area. More than likely, they will not have to do anything additional. we would still refer them to our flood plane manager to let them evaluate that. The floodway is a different matter. The FEMA says you shouldn't have structures there. And to our knowledge today, the ones that were in that way have had enough damage that they trigger a building permit and further evaluation that are in the flood way. >> Okay? >> And so those are the ones that are of most concern, but again, those properties, you know, kind of start in the flood way, extend all the way out. and how do we how do we assist in future events? I'm >> I'm in full support of this. We need to apply for it so that we have that option. Don't get me wrong. I'm just You're also talking about an older part of the neighborhood or or or area where you might have someone that goes in there and fixes the stuff up and says, "I'm staying." And I'm just >> Yes, sir. >> staying. Sorry. >> I think the voluntary part of it is a big deal. We want to make sure that's there. But on these um because we talked about some of the areas if they already have the structures there, there's nothing the city can do. Even if it's in a regulated flood, like some of it, there's fences and things like that that are in our drainage area, but they're on private property. So, there's nothing we can do about that. Correct. >> Unless they apply for a new permit to change that structure. >> That's a good question. And I I I'm going to assume that we probably would

[1:22:30] try to get them to come into voluntary compliance to help with some items, but I'm not sure that we could force them. We'd have to look into that further, but I'm not sure that's our stance is that we need to force them to remove a fence or something at this time, but we obviously evaluating the area, getting some data back that helps the team make some better decisions to bring forward to you guys is is very helpful. Thank you. >> Anybody else? Let let me encourage us. Let's zoom out a little bit here, maybe to the 50,000 ft view. We were unfortunate here in St. Angelo on July the 4th. We know other communities in this state were as unfortunate, if not more so, than we were here. I hope we use this as an opportunity in the big picture to not just look at this area, but we may have some other areas that may be at risk, maybe not quite as much at risk as this area, but let's don't just cast that aside. Let's let let's don't kick that can down the road proverbally when we are starting to look at these sort of things and it may not fit this program but at least maybe we can identify those areas so that I'll say when funding can be sourced that there's other areas we can address in in a similar fashion or maybe even with another creator solution. Um, it seems to me that this this is nobody plans on the event that we had on July the 4th. We all say this it's not going to do that here. Well, it did. So, let's let's take a big look at this while we're looking at it, too. >> Um, I think that I think that's wise just from an overall city perspective. I'm going to take the opportunity to uh

[1:24:35] pat ourselves on the back slightly with that. We do have a master drainage plan um that was up established in 2000, updated in 2020 that identified those those areas that are at imminent risk of of drainage problems. Right? So, we have that we have that listing, we have that prioritization, we have that quantification that's already in place. We have a grant application in with the Texas Water Development Board through the Flood Infrastructure Fund to take a more global look at this and look for regional detention areas. So, what that plan will do if it's funded, if it's approved and funded, we'll take a look at our ETJ, our growth patterns, the elevations through there, and identify properties in those growth patterns that says this is a great place for regional detention city. You need to go try to figure out how to buy this. And you need to encourage developers or require developers to push all of their water into this area as a comprehensive regional detention that serves the whole region comprehensively protects everything that's already established as well as everything that could be built. We as staff have already got those things in place. Aaron as well is working on the comprehensive plan. I think y'all are going to hear some more about that later on this afternoon. The comprehensive plan is also going to do exactly what you said. It's going to identified some of those hazards as well. So staff is a little bit ahead of you on that. Um so >> thank thank you. >> You're welcome. But I wanted to make sure that we're not just sitting back on our launches waiting for something to happen. We do look ahead. We do plan and we're we're moving forward with some of this stuff. >> Good. I'm glad I said it. And so that gave gave you the opportunity to inform my ignorance. So thank you for for for doing that. Uh other >> to approve. >> We have a motion to >> Well, let's make sure we understand what we're approving first. Well, really, we're looking at an approval letter. Is that correct? Uh, let's go back to the make sure that on our end, we need to provide a letter of request to NCRS um NRCS, I'm sorry. Uh, and that's for the Emergency Wershed Protection

[1:26:38] Program. So, we need that the permission authorization to apply >> authorization to submit that letter to the NRCS is all I need from you guys today. >> Is that your motion? >> That's my motion. >> Second. >> We have two seconds down there on the end. >> All right. Pat Patrick uh made the motion and uh you can pick Joe or Harry. >> Yeah, because it's in here. Yeah, we'll give that to Harry. Yeah, >> that's good. >> Okay. Any public comment? >> Yes. Fabian Fernandez. >> Mr. Fernandez. >> Good morning, sir. >> Good morning. Uh my name is Fabian Fernandez. I live on 1721 Eert Street. Uh we don't live in a flood plane, but we live in a flood zone. Um my family's own that property. Me and my sister, we inherited it. Um we've had it for my It's been in the family since over since the 50s. Anyways, so there's a house on one part of the property. I live on the lower end of the property where I raised my family. My my parents were there before that and everything. So we got hit with flood on July 4th. We've never seen that kind of rain uh any kind of water come up ever that high. So what we were my family's in a position right now that uh I need to secure I mean the house is livable blah blah blah but it's going to take a lot of money to get it fixed. Not you know just more money than what it's worth. Let's put it that way. So I was kind of calling um I called downtown stuff like that. See if I could get a modular home. It's not a trailer trailer house, nothing. What me and my wife were trying to plan or trying to do is move that or put that house that structure on the upper part of the land. So, we're not in the flood plane. We're not in the uh we're not in the zone. We're in I saw that deal. We're between our properties on G and E. Um we're not in the flood plane. We're in the flood.

[1:28:42] We're in a E where it's the flood zone and uh the blue mark there. And um we're trying to get our cuz the property that me and my sister own together. It's not in the flood zone, but it's not not the flood zone, but the flood plane a quarter of it and the rest of it's up on higher ground. So my question is I understand um you got to go through zoning everything, you know. Uh since we own the property, we've lived there all our lives. um is there any way that we could have not leniency but consideration that we want to put a better home there for our family and uh something more structure you know it's even they're built better um the way I was looking at them we we we did our you know check on it everything it's they're peering beam they're uh they're considered modular homes because they're built offsite then they're put together on site so it's not a um trailer house >> you know what we'll do Mr. Fernandez, if it's okay with you, if you'll visit with Mr. Venoi. >> Yes, sir. >> He is the one that can help you, uh, work through that process. So, whenever we finish the meeting here, I bet he'll hang around and be glad to visit with you. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I understand. And that was my question. Another question is, um, we our property is privately owned, of course, up to that flood plane, right? Flood zone. We do see a bottleneck. I mean, I've lived there all my life. we see a bottleneck uh I want to say on the southeast side where the city owns property on that side and it's not all it is just cuz ve vegetation just holds everything. So um maybe trimming all through there and then there's another property adjacent on the other side of the um sorry sewer line. >> You can visit with Mr. Fra on that and he he can walk he can walk through that. >> I didn't know 3 minutes went that quick. it. >> I guess I'm long I guess I'm longwinded. >> Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Aaron, will you get his address for me as well? >> Heather others. >> Oh, that's all. >> Okay. >> So, you guys just approved a piece of equipment that'll help that out. Thank

[1:30:44] you. >> Good. We're glad we did that for you, Patrick. Um, so we have a motion by Patrick, second by Harry to um submit this uh author authorization to apply um to the National Resource Conservation Services Emergency Wershed Protection Program. All those in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes 6. >> Thank you. And we'll see y'all back with some more detail. >> Yeah. Thanks. Okay, we'll go to item D, first reading and public hearing of an ordinance amending the budget for fiscal year beginning October 1st, 2024, ending September 30, uh, 2025 for health insurance claims and premiums, property insurance proceeds, flood response funding, Costa DC affordable housing flood program, Costa DC business flood relief, comprehensive plan, and coliseum bond proceeds. Tina Derski, >> thank you. >> Good morning. Good morning, Tina Derski. I've lost my voice. Perfect. >> I was going to say you I talked to you yesterday and you didn't sound that way. >> You did a lot of talking yesterday. >> Did a lot of talking yesterday. Okay. So, this first one is for the bond proceeds that went to the voters on May 3rd for the coliseum in the amount of 41,660,000 to include costs of issuance. Excuse me. Any questions on that one? Okay, this next one is an um earmarking some funds for the update to the city's comprehensive plan. Um you'll see this later on in the budget workshop as well, but this will be a use of general fund fund balance. Um Aaron is still going out for a grant for this plan as well. And if or when we receive that grant, we'll true up this amount to what's needed for the plan. This this amendment is coming from the

[1:32:48] development corporation. Um this part is for affordable housing um in the amount a total amount of $1 million. We do have some affordable housing funds um that are unprogrammed on the ballot side. That's the 183 and then the remainder would come from the economic development side. Any questions on that one? questions. Council >> go proceed. >> Hey, this other one is um also for uh flood related damages. Um I believe this $1 million is related to the businesses located in that damaged area. Also coming from the the fund balance, excuse me. Okay, this is budgeting $2 million coming from um some builtup program revenue in the intergovernmental funds fund balance. This is going to be held in the general fund for the city's response to damages to city infrastructure. Um we still hope to get reimbursed for a lot of that through FEMA andor insurance, but we need some upfront money to get us going. Um, and then the event that we receive that funding, it'll come back into the fund. Also, uh, budgeting $60,000 in the property casualty out of fund balance for flood response and TML insurance proceed proceeds of almost $300,000. This next one is for the health insurance fund projecting um from today through year end um to need about $3 and.5 million um citywide. We've allocated those amounts out um by FTE counts in each of the funds. That's going to be about 2.5 million out of the general fund and the remainder will come from other funds fund balances. Um, also operating funds um for the over 65

[1:34:51] retirey insurance in the amount of $300,000 and then health insurance fund um $44,490 from that fund balance. And then this uh this next one is budgeting for insurance proceeds related to hail damaged vehicles from TML in the amount of $337,000. Um, this was a from a previous um, storm. >> That's all I have on the budget amendment. If you have any questions, >> comments, Daniel, on any of these, >> no comments at this point. Pretty straightforward. All of the the needs that we have that we need to address at this point. Uh, Tina, thank you. You did a good job >> addressing those in detail. So, thank you. >> Yeah, some of these that came out of fund balance. You'll see later in the budget workshop as well, and we may have an opportunity to go in more detail if you have questions. >> Council questions for for Tina. Move to approve. I >> have a motion to approve by Harry. Second by Mary. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes. 6. >> Thank you. That concludes our regular agenda. Um we do not have close session today. Um, we have uh item 8B, consider approving various board nominations audit committee. Tommy Heert, single member district 1. Mary Coffee, single member district 6. >> Have a motion to approve by Harry. Second by Joe. Any public comment? Heather. >> All those in favor say I. >> Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes 6. We will adjourn this meeting and then go. I think I saw the mayor had come in. So, we'll take a we'll take a break here. I think they need to set up some things anyway. So, uh do I have a motion to adjourn this meeting? Motion to

[1:36:53] adjurnn by Harris. Do I have a second? Second by Joe. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Motion carries 6. This meeting is concluded.

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