City Council Strategic Planning Workshop 5-26-23

[0:03:23] not ask the lady in charge Lord it is 8 38 a.m We are going to call this meeting to order the right side we would never do that on this side of here I was like it's a sign welcome everybody there are plenty of seats so no one needs to stand in the back you or are allowed to sit in this

[0:05:26] at the very front and Aaron we want to know how your dad's doing Aaron how is your dad doing okay all right what we want to hear all right today is our Workshop itinerary generally speaking these are strategic there will not be decisions made necessarily it's an opportunity for people to present their needs their wants and give us a great overview of the area that you are responsible for overseeing we appreciate everyone's effort and energy in putting in this process I know it's stressful I know it's stressful for us up here going through all of the items that will be presented and then trying to figure out how we will come up with the money to finance the opportunities and and the issues that come before us but please use this as an opportunity to set forth your 23 24 strategic ideas and we will move through the process there's plenty of food I think drink and water in the room over here to the side if you haven't had a chance to go get something to drink now would be your chance to do that and with that said we are calling this meeting to order so the first thing on the agenda for today is the overview of the planning workshop I might have just taken some words out of Daniel's mouth but he has a chance to repeat those same words if I did Mary yes ma'am you've already done a lot of housekeeping uh thank you for making sure that everybody understood where the the treats were at if y'all want something to eat um it is again an opportunity to kind of sit down and go over our strategic priorities what they were in the past and what we may want to consider for this coming fiscal year as well um the agenda will go like this as far as the workshop we'll get the financial

[0:07:28] update as we always do from uh from Tina uh she'll discuss the current revenues and expenditures and even art Opera monies is what's left over at this point we'll move into Capital Improvement priorities um I know that last Friday information was sent out we do have all the information for people watching on on TV right now Capital Improvement priorities can be seen on our website uh you can pull that information up there's a lot of detail in there as far as what some of the capital Improvement projects are we'll be discussing some of those as far as those priorities today um and number four is the update on the three strategic priorities we've had three priorities for the past actually six years at this point and I know that we reaffirmed those for several years now because they are such huge priorities for us which and tells of course infrastructure Public Safety and economic development and then finally at number five we'll be establishing or confirming priorities for 2023 or 2024. um it's important to understand the city's Financial challenges and opportunities prior to the planning process we do need to talk about those I think that when we look at what we want to prioritize we have to keep that and check with what we expect or what we're maybe budgeting for the future now we want to have solid numbers today as far as what we're forecasting Revenue wise but that's that'll be coming but we also have to monitor that very carefully as we consider some of the priorities that we'll have we can't overdo it and say we want all of this when we no we just don't have the money for it so we have to be very mindful of that there's going to be a list of priorities competing for resources and of course it's constrained by affordability uh the updates I just mentioned those a while ago of course we'll be going over uh infrastructure where we are with drainage streets uh water and wastewater Shane will be doing that Economic Development Michael Dane John James will be tackling that one and then Public

[0:09:32] Safety the Chiefs will be here to present for the police department also for the fire department so we're really looking forward to those presentations as I mentioned a while ago we have had the same priorities for the past six years they've been confirmed um again uh the very end of what we're doing today will be to discuss other options for priorities you may say hey we're good with what we have at this point or no we want to tweak it a little bit we want to remove this and add that so this is what this is for this is the opportunity to really put it out there and say hey we really want to prioritize this and we want the city staff to move forward with our direction to make these things happen I do want to point out that a lot of our when we started looking at priorities as well sometimes some of the priorities fall a little bit lower on as far as what the city comes up with but we also look at funding for those priorities uh if we have a grant that we can apply for and actually receive we'd like to leverage our monies toward that so A lot of times when these priorities will come up to the top rather to staying at the middle point so again we're constantly looking for for grants that will be out there available to us we want to leverage every dollar that we have with the city with that I will hand this over to Tina I'd like to make some comments first before we do that in 2009 we had a company come in and do a review of the city of San Angelo and with that they interviewed I think some 200 people to discuss what they felt about the city of San Angelo what our opportunities were what our issues they perceived were and what the city needed to do to focus on the future and one of the headlines of that said the following the community has collectively changed and is now looking for more quote authentic and individualized experiences

[0:11:36] to ensure successful implementation based off of the Strategic plan that they that the city council back then used to update the comprehensive plan they said the following this document and the process which informed in it builds on an understanding of Market realities relative to economic transportation and land use challenges with an eye towards sustainable Place making and that's an important word Place making as such it is designed to serve as a guide for public and private investment in policy decisions to best leverage City initiatives furthermore it is intended to promote the interest of citizens at large and enhance the visible public realm while improving connections and protections for the city's natural resources how San Angelo will confront these issues great places nurture their history and reinvest in their core this strategic plan is intended to recreate downtown San Angelo as the center of the community physically socially and economically furthermore it is designed to guide the city towards reinvestment in parts that have failed or are failing and to achieve a future that is more walkable more sustainable and more fiscally stable redesigning the city of San Angelo is a more interconnected more integrated more distinct and more culturally significant place is the vision that guides the recommendations presented here it goes on to say this the um in 2003 the city of San Angelo completed the financial comprehensive plan within a few years new insight and continued growth pressure dictated the need for updating key sections of that

[0:13:39] document particularly the vision and strategy for its implementation unlike a typical comprehensive plan which by Design is fairly General the San Angelo strategic plan which is what I'm reading from is the Strategic plan is intended to be targeted and strategic after working with Community representatives and examining past planning efforts this strategic plan lays out a vision and strategy for the city over the near and long term the city of San Angelo is at a point of evolutionary change the perception of San Angelo as a place is shifting from that of a static west Texas town into something more of a new community with an influx of residence particularly from the West Coast relocating to San Angelo to take advantage of its quality of life there is a renewed Community spirit and desire for the identity that was inherent in the original town planning for San Angelo Texas I'm not going to read all of the pages but one of the key things that it goes on to say and I this is something for Shane Kelton because I know this is his daily constant strategic challenge and that is to say the following to the right page here it goes on to say that in fact our biggest challenge will be that as we continue to sprawl instead of working on infill areas that the challenges will continue to provide dramatic change challenges to our city because of the cost of infrastructure for water and for streets and in 2009 the number they put forward just to take care of what was then the infrastructure

[0:15:43] in terms of streets was 300 million if we didn't do anything any new streets any new growth any new development 300 million and that was in 2009. much more than that now mayor exactly it's much more than that okay so what I want to make sure we do is as you know the city our citizens have had tremendous um concerns about the quality of our streets our infrastructure and making sure that we make the investment to continue with the quality of life that exists it also goes on to say the following thing and this relates to parks and Open Spaces city of San Angelo has an extensive Park system with numerous amenities all of which are discussed in detail in the 2003 comprehensive plan these amenities such as the Riverfront Park system museums a visitor center natural topographical features Historic downtown Etc are the essence essence of what makes San Angelo unique in aggregate they give San Angelo competitive sitting advantage in a time when cities are competing against one another for people and jobs particularly those that value this aspect of community quality of life today the city's current level of Parkland is so significant so significant that some parks are considered underutilized this is due in part to the fact that some are misplaced and inaccessible yet others are mismatched to the populace it is serving and and in an effort to promote and preserve this community commodity Parkland and key locations may need to be repurposed

[0:17:48] Parks should be the folks of the community and skilled appropriately for the proposed program and user groups a small neighborhood park should be the focal point of the neighborhood design with reasonable and walking distance for everyone in the neighborhood and program from neighboring Gatherings and similar recreation activities as we go along I will read other portions of this but my point is the following we had a comprehensive plan in 2003. this 2009 strategic plan updated that comprehensive plan and should be the focus otherwise do these why do we even bother to spend the money and do these strategic plans if we don't follow the guidelines and the direction that this strategic plan lays out for the city based off of the citizens input and Shane I don't know but I don't know if you've got 300 million sitting there just to continue to work on the existing infrastructure that's what I thought yeah I do want to point out that um so the comprehensive plan you were just reading from again anyone watching on TV you can go to the city's website under the planning department and there's a link to the comprehensive plan we encourage you to do that it's very eye-opening to what's in there so again the mayor read some excerpts from it but there's a lot of great information in there again see these website planning department link is the comprehensive plan and as I said we will continue and I will add comments and input from this important 2009 strategic plan and with that Tina you're on and you can find us at 300 million right and mayor we're going to talk about the capital Improvement plan in a few minutes and it is at 647 million now so that's only only a part of this document it is not the complete document so as

[0:19:54] much as it's an updated CIP with focus on several areas it is not even close to being what's in this document okay um we'll start out with property tax um this slide is just depicting the three taxing entities that are responsible for setting the tax rates of course that would be the school district with a tax rate of about 97 cents uh the county with a tax rate of about 51 cents and this the city at 0.7379 cents of course the second half of the equation is the appraisal district which appraises property values at the market value and the separation of power ensures that there's not one entity solely responsible for setting your property tax you want to talk about the Tom Green County appraisal district and how they come up with those numbers and what part the city of San Angelo does or does not play in that process well I can't speak to all of their processes but what I can say is that they set the values for Citizens homes and then the taxing entities sets the rate that's kept separate intentionally so that not one entity is determining what the tax levy is or what each individual's tax burden will be they talk about the 3.5 percent increase that we are allowed to have right right the state legislature I think it was in 2019 and put into effect that there's a three and a half percent cap on property tax revenue on existing people and existing existing that's why growth is important because it's only with new property taxes added do we really see the benefit of growth yeah there's also a 10 Homestead cap there is some there's a bill going through the legislation the legislature right now the house just voted on it 147-0 unana unanimously to cap both residential and Commercial properties at five percent so we're watching that closely as well is that

[0:21:56] the vote they took last night about midnight it might have been I just saw it so it's this week for sure I know um and so we're watching that uh that would not I don't think impact um this fiscal year 2024 but I think it would impact Us in 2025 if they if they do approve that it's in the Senate now so um that I can move on or if you have any other questions on I just want to make sure because right now I think every single person who sits up here and me for sure specifically have received a lot of slack as it relates to the property tax valuations and so many people believe that the city is responsible for determining what those appraisal values are and it just needs to be made very clear that the city of San Angelo's investment in the property tax process is simply setting a rate a percentage we are not responsible for setting Dollar valuations on land homes commercial residential what we do have to do is once all the protests have been heard and we know that there's going to be a tremendous amount of protests relative to the tax appraisal valuations we then are limited to the 3.5 percent and when we do that Tina why do we look at I'm sorry could you repeat the question we are limited to the 3.5 percent increase but how do we determine our tax rate talk about the process and what we have to look at and what we have to adjust relative to the final appraised value right once we get those final appraised values that does impact our tax rate if we go above the three and a half percent it is required that we go to the voters to increase it above that level um and so the appraisal district calculates the rate at which it's called

[0:23:58] the no new Revenue rate and they calculate that for us and that's why last year during the budget process we decreased the tax rate by 3.8 cents so talk about where we were on rate versus where we are currently as we speak we were at 0.776 and we are now at 0.7379 so those are things that we're all going to have to deal with as we sit up here and make decisions or take some guidance or information from staff but at this point we don't know what those numbers are there will be a lot of protests so the process will be a long process it will probably come up to the wire in terms of when all those protests are heard and when we finally get a number that we will consider as we finalize the budget and the rate for 23.24 yes ma'am it'll be a couple months before we have that information so but right now we just have preliminary numbers like you said there will be a lot of protests and so until we see how those pan out we really can't come up with a good estimate mayor I do want to add to that as well uh there's people out there that think that the city council influences how those values are are done and there's a legal aspect to that actually city council can involve themselves and cannot it's not like cam cannot evolve itself in trying to influence what those values will look like it's not legal City Council Members cannot do that so those of you including the mayor correct that is correct including the mayor so uh there is that legal aspect of it again on our end as Tina mentioned a while ago you know you have checks and balances in place you know so we city council sets the rate but they determine that value the city council has nothing to do with determining the value or trying to influence that value for them it's actually in the in the code that makes it illegal for a public official to influence the valuations correct okay and um this is just a depiction of what

[0:26:01] we just discussed how we lowered the tax rate last year by the 3.8 cents and moving on to sales tax just a reminder that the total sales tax that a consumer pays is eight and a quarter percent a six and a quarter percent of that goes to the state one percent stays with the city a half percent goes to the Development Corporation and the other half goes to Tom Green County those numbers cannot be changed correctly so we can't increase our sales tax rate on a local level we cannot the state says the highest tax rate could be eight and a quarter percent So within that you know we could possibly move it around but the eight and a quarter is the limit so so sales tax revenue we're over budget by 2.3 million as of May year-to-date collections are over last year by 10.62 percent and projected marginal revenue is 2.8 million and that's projected flat so if we receive this exact same amount in the last few months of the year that's what we would expect it's a percent of increase so are the last few months at the same because the budget doesn't always isn't equally divided by month right that's right decreases our plant earlier on in the budget year right versus the last few months of the budget year and last month what was the sales tax increase 2 .99 percent so keep that in mind because from what we are hearing reading and seeing is the economy is softening and if you take a look at this past month that number might be the new future sales tax increase versus where we've been over the past seven months yes ma'am we do watch that closely again that's projected flat so assuming no increases or decreases through the next four months a lot to last year yes ma'am and then we just have a chart kind of

[0:28:02] showing that sales tax growth over the last five years because one of the key components that that we need to look at is in fiscal year 22 our sales tax increase for the city of San Angelo was less than quote the inflation that was a national inflationary rate so we were not even increasing the sales tax revenue to keep up keep up with inflation so that's a key number so when we only when we can't even make inflationary numbers and sales tax increases then we need to be concerned about how we plan a budget we'll move on to general fund Revenue this is performance as of the end of April at 58 through the year and so property tax was at 91 percent received at that point in time and you can go through those numbers and if you have any questions we'll be happy to discuss generally speaking we receive a hundred percent of the property tax valuation that we put into the budget yes we usually do you missed that number the number that's more flexible is certainly the sales tax and the alcohol and bingo taxes correct I do want to point out though that uh the one area that is lagging is charges for services that's at 30 and 38 versus we have 58 of the of the Year lapse already so that's a concern that's something we want to make sure so I do have a couple notes on that um some of that is due to a delay in ambulance payments they lag behind a month or two usually um some of that is because Municipal Court is low right now year to date and then a big portion of it is the Public Works contract with Tom Green County that was I think 2.4 million or something like that we haven't received that so that's going to make it look like it's lower than the charges for services not a real number it is a real number but it is not what we expect to receive that money from the

[0:30:05] county and so we know that we can rely on receiving that it's just looks low because we have it this is in our fiscal 22 23. what are they is that what you asked me okay there would be for Public Safety there's ambulance fire marshal there's some for police a municipal court in public services there's revenue for parks recreation Nature Center and swimming pool and planning and development services there are charges for development services planning and then permits and inspections under neighborhood and Family Services we have revenue for animal services and Code Compliance are you reading from the year end I'm looking at the current Blue Book just to give you the an idea of what types of charges for services there are I but if you look if you go pull up your 22 23 and look at the final number of What charges for service I know there's multiple categories but if we're going to combine them in one category for this presentation we need to understand how each of those categories came in relative to charges for services she's trying to answer your question your question was about 2223 that's the Year we're in so the year today you're right 21 22 sorry that's sorry that's what I was thinking yeah Kimberly is going to pull that up for the year end so that we can get you yeah we need to look at it because this is not a realistic number relative to how it came in end of the year which at that point in time we would have received those numbers so we need to make sure we understand truly what that number is let me just

[0:32:14] okay what number do you want me to well go through it because it's going to be too difficult to add all that up right now in terms of actual um you from year to year but if you go by each of the categories and say what percent what percent you're ending did they receive for charges for services and where was the red hole and I can go through our um what we have in the blue book as far as year end what we call period 13 with some adjustments of course that is unaudited but I can at least give you that information to give you an idea that would be great okay so Public Safety so Public Safety came in at 88 of their revenue budget Public Services came in at 73 percent of their budget once far and one's police is that what you're saying uh no so the first one I said was Public Safety as a whole do you want them separately no that's okay I mean we might have questions later but for right now okay so Public Safety was 88 that includes fire police and Municipal Court Public Services which is Parks and Rec and came in at 73 percent planning and development services came in at 118 percent so they were able to cover their overhead and expenses based off of the fees they received uh no that's just the revenue um the the revenue budget was set at a million dollars I think their expense budget is 2.5 somewhere around there so what what was their final number in planning and development services can you go to the expense so their final expense was 2.1 5 million and their final Revenue was 1.1 million I know John referred to the gis system as the part that the City offers as a

[0:34:20] service versus charges for the fee right it is it is Mayor yeah yeah GIS part of it yes so we would have to extract from that to come up with a pure number and then on the public safety 88 of the budget where was the big hole was that inclusive of ambulance services it is ambulance was at 95 percent Fire Marshal was at 47 percent police was at 106 and Municipal Court was at 78 percent 78 percent is the municipal is that what you said municipal court fines and fees that looks stuff did you want me to go through the rest of them or is that what else is there that we have what other ones are there neighborhood and Family Services um at 74 percent and then there's other like some miscellaneous charges other than that so in other words on every category every area of category where we have charges for services we miss the budget numbers bear good eye Tina could you give us perspective by telling us who the big where the big dollar value Revenue shortfalls were not just the percentages sure yes just ballpark so um Public Safety in general was short by 846 thousand dollars again you break that down into those and fire was 230 000 of that the big one was Municipal Court that was short by 550 000. Municipal Court numbers are based off of

[0:36:24] what she'd have to she'd have to come up and tell us that I mean I'd have to talk to Sylvia is she here oh we have someone here [Music] good morning good morning um I'm Jessica I'm one of the supervisors for Municipal Court thank you so yes we realize that our numbers are down or our revenue is down and it's all dependent on filings there's billions or what citations and has that been the trend over the past three years and the trend over the last five years we looked at it yesterday and it's been going down but significantly over the last three years so last year we had almost 13 000 filings through Municipal Court and we're on track to meet that number again but that's down probably 50 percent from five years ago so the question mark is we can continue to budget unrealistic or budget based off of a trend level and we you know continually set in that high is one issue that creates shortfall in the end and what we want to do is be more realistic in terms of how we plan it on the other hand if citations are down or tickets are down is there a question about Public Safety speeding Running Red Lights running stop signs but one other issue I think that you started this year was the and I'm probably going to say the wrong words on

[0:38:27] this but the tickets the warrants so this year I think we went back and have done what um so almost a year ago we did a two-week warrant Roundup Yeah we actually had we looked at those numbers too and over those two weeks we collected almost 50 percent of the monies of the people that we were able to make contact with um so that's actually pretty good that's better than we've done in the past and we talked about it yesterday and our plan is to do something like that again similar to what we did last year that becomes a huge big hole because I think every year it's been about five hundred thousand down from the plan and when it's a consistent performance from a plan number you start with number one is the plan correct if we keep planning it but if we keep dropping 50 percent every year and you look at a five-year trend of less than 50 percent every year for five years that's a significant number mayor we did budget down two hundred and seventy thousand dollars from the prior year and it was still short by 550. she she did want me to point out um one of the things is when in 2017 when the law changed and we had to restructure how we can collect when people don't pay um it kind of made it harder that's why we have more war or less warrants as quickly and why is it harder so in the past if they didn't pay they immediate didn't pay or didn't complete community service they basically immediately went into warrants and this was

[0:40:29] you know a lot of people don't want that now they have an opportunity they have some time before that happens um so in some ways it's less incentive so mayor yes she won't say it I'll say it the state made it much more difficult to collect on those pay plans where we would throw them into warrant and and go knock on the door and say look you got to pay uh they won't let them do that now it's very soft very soft collection authorization based on state statutes and they're given the ability at this point to make payments I mean they can make a small amounts on a so we're not collecting typically maybe not even for the full amount for the during the that fiscal year it rolls over to the next fiscal year or further than that really so yes the state requires that not only do we offer payment arrangements give them time to pay um they can paid in full they can paid in 30 days they can pay it over years and we also have to require or we're also required to offer an alternative to payment which is our community service our Taps program so so if you compare the number of tickets or warrants or citations citations would be the correct word if you look at the trend over the past and you know one of the things that's the hiccup which you can't use in in this conversation is the the coveted years because that is the big hiccup in terms of what could or could not or did or did not happen so we always want to make sure we are fair about that conversation but if you take a look at the past two years what would be the fair number to look at in terms of citations given so far this year versus final numbers last year um so it's it's not just citations it's filings in general for multiple departments as I said I'll probably say the wrong word um okay so last year overall we had 12

[0:42:33] 896 filings and right now we're at 6797 filings and that ends for April 30th so we don't have maze numbers yet so it's significantly Down based off of where we're at currently worth a percent right now um I don't have it in yours you're I think in your Municipal Court number don't you have oh we don't have numbers you have percentage or dollars right so you wouldn't know number of citations last year it sounded like you're about 50 we're about 50 for the year we have major August September five months left or four and a half months maybe four so we're gonna miss it again probably ma'am thank you yes somebody a question concerning the means of collection we can't knock on doors anymore so what is our means of collection um we can knock on doors just not as aggressively I guess I I don't know how to put it um we have one clerk that calls probably half the day most days of the week making contact with people and we have a collection agency that also makes contact with people so do you all charge any kind of fees for this uh money that they owe like do you charge anything every month extra no so the amount that they owe stays the same it increase so there's a warrant fee that gets added for every violation that

[0:44:36] goes into warrants and then if it gets turned over to collections there's a 30 increase on whatever the balance is but that money goes directly to the collection agency how long is it before they are turned over to the collection agency 90 days it's either 60 or 90 days off the top of my head it's 90 days 30 days yes 90 days so they go into warrants then they can stay in warrants for 90 days and then they go to the collection agency other questions from city council members I think the hardest part is having a clerk who tries hard to contact people landlines are not usually used so much people know how not to answer a cell phone particularly because of spam issue so one would know how to not answer so I think the idea of being able to contact them is a very tough challenge and yet on the other hand it was a citation written for some reason in one of the parts uh so anybody that goes on a payment plan is required to provide some names and numbers of some friends or family so we actually do reach out to their friends and family and ask them to contact the person and have them give us a call and further questions or comments anyway that becomes as a total if you look at this charges for services and look at the percent we're at has a big impact in terms of overall budgeting and the amount of funds that the general fund is going to have to add back in to cover those costs so we need to be very mindful of that line because there's a you know eight million dollar difference there last question

[0:46:42] suppose somebody says I'm not paying what happens then it sounds like nothing I guess it depends on if we've made contact with them unfortunately the last option is that they would go to jail if an officer makes contact with them they have the option of taking them to jail and they would sit out there fine send out there sit out their balance ode do you have any numbers on that on how many of them sorry I can um I can get with Sylvia and we can get that information to you about how much overall um that we have to give credit for for them to be in jail you know the the challenge here is to figure out what we can do differently because if you look at a five-year Trend the amount of money that the general fund is having to cover to pay for the Municipal Court numbers that we're talking about it's a huge amount and skipping covet but we need to strategically decide number one how to plan it correctly but even when we reduce it we're not making the numbers so there's strategically got to be a plan for how we go about achieving some of these numbers the charges for services and and how we collect is it writing off an 8 million dollar number in the general fund on top of all the other things that the general fund has to cover is very difficult it's a real challenge mayor yes please uh if if I could call John up here actually John's supervisor for the city Marshals I think you want you had something to add on the Warren part of it perfect we love expert testimony uh good morning the only thing I wanted

[0:48:50] to add was our the way we collect and our warrant service has not changed we still knock on doors on a daily basis uh I think Jessica was referring earlier to some of the things that changed by law one of them is in the past person didn't make a payment immediately put into warrants now we have I think we have to send out a notice like a 10-day notice if they don't respond to the notice we have to send them another notice of a show cost hearing so the process has been extended so that's one of the things that was changed a few years ago by law the other thing now is we have to if requested provide an nd2c hearing and if a person comes in and just says they can't pay we can provide them with options like community service which we do but for health reasons if they can do community service you know we just basically whatever they owe is just a wash those are some of the things that changed several years ago and and it doesn't necessarily make collections harder it just extends the time that they have to avoid payment as far as collections from the Marshall side we still go out on a daily basis and and knock on doors that has not changed [Music] when we do knock on doors and we make contact with somebody that we have several options one of them is take them to Jail the other option is we take them to Municipal Court where they're put on Time payments I know the question was asked are there any other payments that go along with uh the Time payments and we have a time payment fee that we can add by law and then of course the warrant fee another thing that changed several years ago is if a person is in warrants and they turn themselves in with just

[0:50:54] walk in the front doors we have to recall the warrants by law that changed several years ago as well so describe that process again please so a person's in warrants and uh you know 90 of the time a person is a warrants they know they're in warrants but they walk in through the front door we didn't go get them we didn't give them a PR Bond they're not coming from jail when they walk into the front door go up to the counter that warrant is recalled so basically I'm here put me on Time payments and you know hopefully we don't do this again in 30 days but at least there's a process yes yes and that process I don't certainly don't know how frequently that process is used but the key is there is a process for people to work through the situation and and every time a Law changes and makes it a little bit more difficult for us to collect uh we we put things in place to kind of help us one of the things is uh the time payment it's not an easy process you come in and you fill out a form you have to list four people who know you who know where you live who know where you work and we have a clerk that calls basically the references and calls and speaks to each one of your references before we put you on time payments uh some of them that come in if they owe a substantial amount they're required to pay a certain percentage before we put them on Time payments so those are some of the things that we've done to kind of make it a little bit easier for us to collect because we know now that everything's extended it's a little bit harder sometimes to collect on on some of these warrants so that's what we've done but as far as the collections process from the warrant side and from the Marshall side that hasn't changed so any other questions well think you know

[0:52:57] the obviously you're saying that by the state law the process is dictated in terms of what we can and can't do so there's always two issues number one the amount of citations issued is it up or is it down and then number two up or down the collectibility what percentage are we collecting this year versus last year so it's it's two issues so one is how many citations are we writing are we being um for writing as many citations and then number two is our ability to collect them down or up and is there an idea or a suggestion in terms of how we move forward to help the process and make because no one wants to be writing citations that are just worthless because people refuse to participate in the process so we don't want to make it harder on our police so that's the two issues for me and I I agree 100 and some of the things some of the other things that we've done is we probably have five positions in our department that we haven't filled because the numbers have been down several years we also have a few more as as far as the marshals go we have a few more responsibilities that we didn't have a few years ago that a very necessary but we didn't have those responsibilities several years ago so we spent a lot of time doing other things rather than warrant service because of those other responsibilities name one of those responsibilities Educators city council yeah you know we have two people here every city council meeting which I think is necessary we do some other things our court security you know we have more court now because of the show cause hearings the indigency hearings some of those other things and uh very very necessary but because of the law change they added

[0:55:01] those Court hearings now we have a marshall who's assigned to that that could be serving warrants so we take court security very serious understandably yes we get it I mean to me I I I I always think that's our priority so uh I I I really have no issue with with that at all thank you questions for John thank you for coming forward and offering comment thanks Sean on the franchise tax update us on what's going on there specifically like we're at 67 okay so current year today on Franchise Tax we're at 59 percent do we collect from all I don't know how many phone calls everybody else has gotten but I know my phone is loaded every day with people complaining about the um people in town putting in fiber and the amount of water we've lost because of the fiber process the cost of overseeing that and the disruption of people not having water because of lines being broken but I know that since this fiber thing has become a two-year project in two years it's cost a lot it's created a lot of additional time and effort do we collect my long term my question

[0:57:04] is do we collect from these fiber people so the fiber people are required to pay franchise fees Teresa and I have talked about that but the onus is on them to remit it um and so but yes they are required to pay franchise fees so if the onus is on them who's paying and who's not I don't know specifically I haven't looked in the details of what who we're receiving fiber payments from but we could get that information to you you need to look at it because if we need the fiber not to misread the the comment fiber is obviously a very important part of San Angelo moving forward in the world of technology so fiber is important on the other hand I know the number of phone calls I get of angry citizens complaining about what's happened and how disruptive their yards are the additional Street work disruption that's been created with it so we need to find out where we're at on that what's the process for making sure it might be up to them but they need to hear from us yes ma'am and another thing on franchise fees there is a bill in the legislature right now where they're trying to um eliminate franchise fees for streaming companies the city we have entered into that lawsuit Theresa is that correct sorry put you on the spot yeah that bill actually failed two days ago I think on procedural grounds but part of the franchise fee issue is that fewer people are doing cable and so we're not getting the same kinds of franchise fees from those kind of companies that we are which is the basis of the Netflix Hulu suit and I I want to take the time to thank Drew Darby um I contact them on Senate Bill 1167 as well that's a huge concern I mean if you start streaming it gets a pass on not paying on the franchise fee that's a huge hit for the city as well so we want

[0:59:06] to protect that I was in contact with dude Darby's office he did text me back again to let us know that it failed on procedure but that's something we're watching very closely and making sure that our state legislators understand that it's huge for the city this is one of this is our top uh it's one of their top three highest producing revenues so we've got to protect that mayor yes please Tommy um Tina just for my own clarification I want to be sure I'm not misunderstanding these numbers you have here the the year-to-date actuals are through April 30th this year so that's seven months of the year and then you show down to the bottom of the slide 58 percent of the year has elapsed so just using as the example the franchise tax we're really okay on the collection side of that because we've only passed through 58 percent of the year and we've collected 59 percent to date so we would be on target if I'm understanding correctly to collect 100 of our franchise tax by the end of the fiscal year correct yes statistically that's correct but the other issue is is that franchise tax is based off of historic who was paying the franchise tax and the challenge going forward is who should be paying not who has been paying because we've had lots of additional um people come into town so and if we're not collecting from them then you're missing that that Revenue so this is based off of primarily cable franchise fees Etc historic ones but where's the new ones that's really the challenge is because we're looking forward to the next budget and we need to understand the next budget but historically as of today yeah but who's not paying anything another note on franchise we've recently started an audit over a franchise fees and so the three largest companies that we're looking at right now are at most Suddenlink and I think it's AEP yeah so we're looking at those and

[1:01:11] making we're going back through the statute of limitations as far as we can go back and making sure that they've been paying correctly and so after we finish those three we could move on to another type of franchise it's called Optimum it's yeah I wanted to clarify just to Ask Shane a question whenever these companies are coming and digging in our right away they do have to get a permit to access the right-of-way and we do verify that they are registered with the state and then that's who they actually pay the fees to so the state should be keeping track of who the companies are and ensuring that they're collecting those fees and remitting them to us now how accurate the state's doing I don't know but there is a process by which we're ensuring that we are getting some money from the companies who are in our right-of-way if we could just follow up on that again because the disruption that has been created is significant and yet we know that the future is in technology and we need that new infrastructure of fiber so not to miss the need but um on a daily basis multiple times on a daily basis I'm hearing from somebody about their water was cut off a broken water line these people have been digging in my yard the Street's been left in a mess my yard's still not fixed so um I just want to make sure we stay on top of that and um reduce the workload on Shane kelton's world because of this that's really long term my big issue I know some people because you have three different companies digging so the first company comes in and they break your water line we patch it oh then here comes a second company because these companies are not in sync with each other so virtually your yard your street your Alleyway can be disrupted three times and that process is very cumbersome yes it is Mayor and also just wanted to let you know that we do track every time that we get called out to uh to go make

[1:03:13] a repair on a water main break or any of those things that we do we do charge back the time and materials back to those companies that do cause that break as well too so we are tracking that and and uh getting our costs our cost of service back to go fix what they tear up so it does yes it takes it takes us away from our our normal duties and uh it in in the really back about a year ago when it was really uh we had all three of them going really hard at one time uh we were responding probably to 15 to 20 uh water line breaks a day at the at that point so um our crews were we had Crews that almost working 24 7 during that time appreciate that any um other questions remember City Council Members this is really an opportunity for us to learn more about what's going on day in and day out so it's really it's not it's really a chance to learn because in our normal City Council meetings we don't go into the detail and the depth that we are today so today is technology over there got a problem [Laughter] so he had a one foot shot to the trash can you have to put it out there Daniel needs to work on his shot anyway so um I know I gain a lot of information and understanding better of what goes on day in and day out and I encourage anybody to ask questions or comments to increase our understanding of our city and its operations so continue Tina we'll move on to general fund expenditures so Public Safety at 58 percent Public Works is at 75 percent but that's largely due to the Sealcoat project that's already been encumbered and committed you say revised budget what's the revised budget it's what the budget that you adopted plus any other budget

[1:05:15] amendments that have come through for approval we all know yes ma'am and public services at 52 development services at 59 neighborhood and family services and uh it's 55 percent Health at 58 government at 53 percent and what's government you might ask is city council City manager's office internal auditor Communications City Clerk construction management and is that Development Corporation Development Corporation and then Administration which is legal real estate Finance billing and receipts I.T purchasing HR facility maintenance and what is ND non-departmental that's what it is and then transfers transfers out of the general fund which includes Capital grants Debt Service general fund supported transfers out to other funds and then um 2.4 million to the airport was fully transferred as well in that line item Council comments from Council okay proceed so this is a slide that shows you property tax is a little over half of our Revenue budget was sales tax at about 25 percent um other taxes account for eight percent of the revenue budget and then charges for service are about 11 percent expenses by Department Public Safety makes up 56 percent of the expenditure budget Public Works makes up about 12 and a half percent and others about the the remaining 25 percent that's a huge number what's other 25 significant development services Health Services General government which is city council city manager internal auditor public information city clerk construction

[1:07:16] management Development Corporation and transfers out which is the grants Capital Debt Service and other funds is that up from previous years I already have that side from last year see if we can pull that up Tina well she's looking yes sir that last group what are the top three do you have the breakdown what are the top three in that group in the other group yes sorry I figured you added in your notes that one here that does the same thing Tina are you talking about of the total budget what are the top three of those expenditure budgets the other category you listed those departments of those I was just curious I would assume that just a few of those departments make up were a few of those expenditure targets make up the bulk of the 25 percent right that's correct um the top three would be HR finance and City manager's office or that's more than transfers transfers to other oh yeah no I'm sorry you're right transfers out is 4 million capital is two and a half million and those departments you just named are higher than than planning no then planning planning the budget for planning is two and a half million I believe is that in that 25.19 percent planning it's a lot of places to look for that to answer that question I'm sorry forget I asked

[1:09:18] well we should look at the top three in that 25.19 percent because that's a big percentage so let's see what is the last year that number was 24.79 rowing a little bit I would expect that's mostly in personnel Kimberly says it's mostly in transfers out for Capital expenditures being Chris it's expenses out of the general fund we did more transfers out this year than we usually do for Capital expenditures entire number on the other a little bit because of time commitment from employees is that no ma'am no it's the actual transfer out to cover the cost of capital for equipment replacement I think we increased that we increased it for this current fiscal year significantly yeah 420 000 or something like that would seem to be high well um city council directed while we were going through our budget workshops last year to increase the transfer out for La for this current fiscal year for equipment replacement because Shane had a lot of things that he needed to get done within that fund and so that's why it increased here that shows up as an expenditure in the general fund because we're actually taking general fund monies and transferring it to an equipment replacement fund so in that fund it's a revenue or a transfer in but in the general fund it's shown as an expenditure so when you increase that commitment like you did last year for equipment replacement I meant fault guys I mean the big you the the room-wide you did it work Shane did you need to buy those pieces of equipment yes ma'am well and what actually

[1:11:20] happened was due to due to the inflationary costs uh it was almost a wash basically we really weren't able to make much Headway we didn't make a little Headway but not as much as we wanted to do the inflationary costs of mostly vehicles uh going up the we actually saw a higher percentage of inflation in our um you know our F-150s and police units and and those type things we actually saw an increase significant increase in those costs last year but it definitely otherwise we wouldn't if without that influx we wouldn't been able to even come close to coming close to meet our match of what we had done the prior year so thank you any other questions for Tina okay keep moving on the last slide is just to remind you that you still have arpa money available and unassigned a balance of five and a half million dollars and a reminder that that has to be obligated by the end of next calendar year and used by the end of 2026 um uh Mary you wrote a letter in opposition of Congress discussing recalling that money and that commitment to the to the cities and states um and so that's being discussed as a way to uh buy down the debt ceiling or the debt the deficit that they're facing um so we're doing what we can to combat that but I just want to remind you that we do have a timeline and I know it's still out there and I know that with the Biden McCarthy negotiations it's one of the line items that they're using the question mark is does that negotiation impact what would be our fiscal 23 budget year or 24-25 budget year it will not impact our budget this is money that's already restricted within a fund and so um I guess just the bottom line is the sooner we can get that committed and obligated the better you know if they do end up making that decision for some

[1:13:23] reason for whatever reason then we've already you know kind of got it committed so all right thank you district one could use it let's see there's 646 million dollars on the CIP okay let's see how much of that does that cover only used for certain things what is well originally it could only be used for certain things but because we met they had this convoluted Revenue loss calculation that we had to do and so we were able to show that the city did meet that Revenue loss of the 16.6 million dollars during the coveted years and so we as a city are free to use it in any way that Council directs right all right so with that moving on moving on are you through yes I have Capital Improvement plan up next you got it I believe yeah so this is that big number we've been throwing around and there are 50 active projects at a price tag of 493 million dollars 52 proposed at a price tag of 154 million dollars for a total of 647 for these purposes active projects simply means that the department has in some way begun the project it doesn't mean it's funded absolutely doesn't mean it's funded it means that they've started like for example on the landfill they've started a permit or the permitting prop process for the Concho Water Project you know so it just means that something has been done to initiate the start of the project doesn't mean it's been funded that raises a question then of course and that is is how do you start a project that's not been funded well you can start like planning and design or permit type stuff without actually committing and obligating development costs yes ma'am or project costs yes software next site so this is just showing you by Department active versus proposed on a

[1:15:28] line item basis so I'll just let you look at that and see if you have any questions I'll be going through these one by one from there yes ma'am from there I just have a couple more slides and then we can pull up Kimberly's going to pull up our online database that we use for Capital Improvement plan and if you have any questions on specific projects we can pull up that project page and go through it because we're going to want to go through each of these individually yes ma'am so if no questions on that I'll finish up my slides and we can get into that yeah because we need to change it in detail and we can go back and reference that if we need to and we certainly have available to us the individual projects within the specific areas that we're going to talk about so we can do that I'm going to ask Council if you'd like to take a quick five-minute break let's take a quick five minute break and then we will go into the top three strategic priorities we a piece of the agenda is in fact 1004 and we're going to start by going to the capital Improvement plan starting with the airport Jeremy are you here dear thought I saw you you're first on the list for the airport so we will start with that and if you will educate us on all of these items on your CIP [Music] all right thank you mayor it's kind of nice having the same last similar last name to Daniel usually we're last in the order so we're starting with an a is good good that's good um airport Storage Barn so as you know we signed all a lease with border patrol and with Skyline that's where we were storing all of our equipment so we now have nowhere to store equipment so we're

[1:17:29] just looking for a storage barn to store all of our tractors and Equipment just to get it out of the hail and somewhere to put it construct the South taxi Lane so this this project we presented to you we're going to build all those hangers the 10 by 10s or excuse me the hundred by hundreds the 90 by 90s and the 60 by 60s on the south taxi Lane we've been looking to do this for a long time um we have got the grant money to do it we had bids open last two weeks ago and we had no bidders for the project so we've gone back to the drawing board the FAA is suggesting that we go to concrete actually FAA grade concrete is not that more expensive than FAA grade Asphalt in San Angelo because it's hard to get that product being this far away from the Metroplex area so we are rebuilding that project out next week we'll open bids I think June 30th for that project that project also is running in conjunction with the convert Runway 927 to taxiway Hotel project we're bidding those two projects out together hangers right now based off of the availability of those hangers when completed what's the interest level very high with the 24 hanger pads that we have available I'm up to 16 tenants that have already sent a letter of interest in to lease those facilities so and we'd really particular size more important than the others the 90 by 90s are full I got three of the 400 by hundreds committed to and then several 60 by 60s and we haven't really marketed it other than here so I think once we really Market it they're going to fill up pretty fast so what you're trying to do is get someone to build these hangers for us and then we lease them out no we would just provide the taxi Lane and we would provide the land in a raw land lease and then the individual tenant can get their own hanger built on the land and then they get a somewhat long-term lease on it correct yeah standard lease is about 12 cents per square foot per year and a typical at least is a 20-year

[1:19:33] lease with four or five year extension so you're looking at a 40-year lease the taxiway project as I said that's running in conjunction we should hear from Congress they want to make announcements the middle of June if we're going to get that discretionary funding or not I meet with the FAA quite frequently and he's very very optimistic we're going to get the discretionary funding to do that we apply for Grant Tex dot grants separately from federal government for our projects we do not because Texas is a block grant State the FAA all the commercial service airports the FAA does direct grants with us the general aviation airports the FAA gives them just a lump sum and then the tech stock can determine where that money goes that money does not come back to commercial service airports but there is opportunity we have reached out to TxDOT about keeping Runway 927 just based off ASU with the Flight Training we talked about the need for that crosswind Runway TxDOT will not support it because the FAA will not support it okay um in the process of extending that Runway is talk about the time frame on that again please on the 927 conversion yes please that's going to be a very quick project because we're going to have both runways closed well we'll close Runway three two one while working in there then we'll open it back up and close 1836. that's only a 60-day time frame to get both these projects done okay it moves quick good uh Hangar Road reconstruction is complete um no excuse me excuse me that Entrance Road reconstruction is complete Hangar Road that's just the road when you're coming into the terminal it's a non-eligible portion of the road as you head down to all the the tenant owned hangers there's just a lot of potholes in it it's an old road and it needs to be redone fa will not touch it they consider it more public use because it's on the public side of the fence we need

[1:21:36] move the fence sure okay let's move the fence and then we qualify Jet Bridge reconstruction you've heard about this there's some grant money out there under the bipartisan infrastructure law so I'm applying for those grants it's a very competitive program it'll run for the next three and a half years but we are trying to get secure about three million dollars in grant funding to get the jet Bridges rebuilt the problem with our bridges now is they are teller radio Bridges there's only three airports in the entire United States from what I told the have tele radio Bridges and they won't link up to the new 175 aircraft that American Airlines is bringing in so I'll say that again the bridges we have will not link up to the 175 aircraft just by Design because they're so old so the ramp Drive bridges are the new design Bridges all airports are moving to those that's what you see at all the other airports where the actual tires will rotate and you can link up to any aircraft so we would like to get those replaced under that bipartisan infrastructure law Bill and there's grant money for that there is grant money for that it's it is discretionary so we have to compete we're going to compete right yes we're going to compete and the FAA has money for that or not or is that all the grant money comes from them it's it's all about yes it's FAA it's a 90 10 split so we would need a get 10 match it is PFC eligible for reimbursement and the time frame is immediate on that that we apply for the grant or yeah and I've been applying for the last two years I apply every year there the FAA is prioritizing the large hubs as they always do usually in years three four and five they start to trickle down to the non-hubs in some of the ga airport so I'm pretty optimistic and I work with the fa and he recognizes the importance of this project but I'm pretty optimistic in years three four and five which we're in now we'll start to see some of that grant money come to us well can

[1:23:38] conceptually will that grant money become available at the same time that we need it to convert because of the Airlines plane we're already too late the 175 comes in Daily two of the three aircraft that come in are the 175. so the bridge can only get so close to the Jet and then have to put the mobile boarding Bridge down so we can't put the canopy underneath so we make it work but it's it doesn't link up to the airplane okay um taxiway Delta this is just on our Capital Improvement plan that we submit to the FAA every year we're requesting to use a million dollars of our entitlements plus the remaining 5.5 of discretionary to reconstruct taxiway Delta now strictly just because the age the FAA gives the useful life of asphalt 20 years so it's beyond its 20-year Lifetime and it's due for replacement and these are on the out years rehab Hangar roofs we just we do get rain in West Texas um and so we've got several recently we've got several hangers out there and the roofs are old the skylights are leaking so we're just trying to be strategic and put some money every year towards replacing Hangar roofs to protect the assets inside we are in our contracts spaces that we eat with the airport in their lease that they have to invest back into the facilities at all because I know many cities as a part of a long-term lease for operation or leasing of buildings as a requirement to invest x amount of dollars back into the facility that's correct we do not do that here what we do require is that they maintain the facility other than footings Foundation the structural components of the hangars that we own and Lease back to them we maintain they maintain everything else we don't put a dollar amount in there I

[1:25:42] have seen that in other airport leases where if you put ten thousand dollars we will extend the lifetime of your lease another year so that is language we could consider but we don't currently have that in any of our leases um rehabilitate Runway 1836 tax away alpha bravo again this is driven by our FAA Capital Improvement plan I believe that's two or three years out from now same with Runway rehabilitate Runway three two one it's on the capital Improvement plan for the FAA that we're just looking at a seal coat and paint Runway 321 is the it's the instrument Runway it's actually in really good shape compared to one eight three six terminal drainage improvements again that's on our Capital Improvement program as you know we flooded the terminal uh time to time when we get significant rains so we're asking for some federal help to improve the drainage around the terminal building we have any drainage issues over the past 10 days uh nope nope they got close to the to the bottom of the door but it never breached the door it does rain inside the terminal though we're trying to get that fixed rain is good right and it's good uh let's see terminal improvements so again this is that bipartisan infrastructure law there's money available for terminal improvements as you notice the bathrooms at the terminal are getting pretty old and worn down so we'd like to just replace the bathrooms give them a bit of an upgrade HVAC units are highly competitive with this program so we've thrown them in there because my HVAC units are over 20 years old and the roofs leak roofs are also very competitive in this program as well so we're hoping with the HVAC and roof project we can also get the bathrooms remodeled in the terminal using grant money that's a 95.5 split so five percent of that can be covered with pfcs terminal I.T improvements again this is from Federal grant money that was

[1:27:45] available through covid-19 but we're looking at upgrading our conference room to allow for some virtual meetings just to maximize the availability of that Grant do we with the um and I forget the terminology but I know Brian Groves presented some improvements um to be paid for by the fee that Optimum gives us the peg fee yeah can those funds be used to do this at the airport can only be used for programming that goes on Channel 17 or the television so create a program sure you can go on channel 17. so we can use that to improve your I.T I like some local Pilots there you go I think we're looking at you Tom okay terminal landscaping and fencing let me ask you a question yes because with the program at ASU and the pilot training program going on would there not be a reason to believe that there could be something created to go on Channel 17 about that program or anything it's not just a matter so he'll help us not just a matter of creating a program that can be displayed on Channel 17 but it has to be something related to enabling us to have programming on channel 17. so just the fact that we have a video would not be enough to use that funding but how creative can you get well we already do have a video we did a video story on it last year they won several Awards we run it all the time on the channel but it would have to be like for instance this room we'd have to have meetings in there that we record and air

[1:29:49] on the channel so it always has to have a direct impact on the TV channel so we wouldn't be able to spend it for a conference room upgrade type thing unless we were recording meetings in there on a regular basis that would always be on Channel 17. so an airport Advisory board meeting and we could look at it you know one of the things we also need to think about is um that that fund has we used to get more money I think we are starting to see an impact of cord cutting and so while we do have some money in there now I think you know we definitely need to be careful about spending it because at some point it could go away and so um because fewer usage of no pure use right yes so you know we used to get about 250 000 a year and that I think um I didn't bring that paperwork today but I think 2021 it was 150 or 170 the next year was around 200 and I think right now we're at 131 this year so we're definitely seeing a decrease in those funds um and so um while we do have projects that we're doing in here you know if we were I'd ever move our office that would be very pricey um and that would that would be what that fund would be used for as well and so all that'll start to add up and then before you know it we won't have any money in there to to spend on things outside the box oh I know I know um and so yes if we were to have an airport advisor meeting out there Jeremy how often do y'all meet do you meet four times a year couple times a year yeah quarterly so yes ma'am trying to address the needs and I have a good source of funding for that outside of our funding federal grants could pay for that good terminal landscape and fencing if you've been out to the Chinese restaurant lately you've noticed that the trees have been cut down the FAA mandated we get rid of those because of the wildlife issues the the grackles were perching up in there they were building nests up in

[1:31:52] the jet Bridges and they found some of the birds out on the runway so FAS they get rid of the trees so it's kind of an eyesore if you're sitting in the cafe looking out the windows you see those old stumps and just the land underneath those old trees so we were looking at doing some type of landscaping improvements there and then on the other side where the air traffic control tower sits we've got an old fence with some slats in it TSA wrote us up for it because it doesn't meet today's standards for security so I need to put a fence up there um this we're looking I think we're looking at using some of the TxDOT ramp grant funding to get this project done uh terminal parking lot reconstruction so this is in my opinion our biggest black eye out there this parking lot is old it's very challenging everybody sees it as they come to the airport but it's it's just it's falling apart rapidly with my crew most the time they're out on the runway is keeping that side of the fence safe and looking good and so the parking lot gets neglected from time to time so I would like to get those parking lots done the master plan suggested charged parking I know I've brought that up to you we're looking at five dollars per vehicle per day which would bring an additional 230 thousand dollars of unrestricted Revenue to to my budget but we would like to get the parking lots reconstructed before we can do charge for parking the problem with this project is there's no source of funding the Federal Aviation Administration nor TxDOT will touch it if we're going to charge for parking then we would need to fight if you charge for parking you're limited to what you can apply for in terms of Grants correct yeah if you're if you're going to generate Revenue you can't use grant money to to build that facility you have enough short-term parking because it always seems like to me short-term parking is solid yes yeah short-term parking fills up fast with the project we're doing with Skyline right now to get the rental cars moved over to the other parking lot that will open all

[1:33:53] those stalls up there's over 60 I think there's 66 stalls there that would be available in short-term parking when does that project going to begin um there's supposed to kick off here in the next two or three months we just recently got there some of their design concept plans and I think they're close to pulling a permit on them how's the rental car situation out there because I hear lots of complaints about that so do I um it's it's bad still but it's getting better we're in negotiations with another company to come out hopefully bring that to city council here shortly to use those other counters that Hertz was using um Davis just has a hard time staying on top of the vehicles because they're such a high demand um with the base lots of the families will fly in for graduation but they don't fly out so they pick up the vehicles they take them out of San Angelo so there's no vehicles left here in San Angelo so they got to truck Vehicles back in and it has been a challenge for sure last item on my list Tower reconstruction can I ask one other question so I know in a lot of cities like you know where we have Hotel row out there in a lot of cities there is a bus that stops by each of those hotels picks up people at the airport and then delivers them to the the circle of hotels do we have that available in San Angelo because that's the other thing I hear about just getting from the airport to a hotel because sometimes the Uber fees and the lift fees are so high people are like you know whatever so does that service exist um the service exists other than Uber through Red Bull shuttle red Ball's been able to keep up they got a bunch more Vans and they've been running passengers to the terminal or excuse me to the hotels they do it at charge we have talked to the hotels about running shuttles out to the airport and they

[1:35:54] just don't have enough demand to to justify doing it but there there is red ball shuttle that's a more affordable option to get from the airport to the uh San Angelo um Tower reconstruction so this one the air traffic control tower as you know is old there's some big push in Congress right now to replace the old contract Towers there's funding out there available now to the tune of 20 million per year Nationwide so as you can see we're requesting 12.5 million of that 20 Nationwide we're number 23 on the list good so it's going to be it's going to be a while before we get it but we still we we push the need every year this is a hundred percent funded by the FAA there is no match money required we just have to compete higher than some of the other busier airports to get it there's some language in Congress right now to increase that up to I want to say I think it's 50 million per year or higher for the contract towers and so they do recognize there's an issue with the old towers and and trying to get them replaced so you will see this you will continue to see this until we we get the announcement from Congress that we get a new air traffic control tower with that do I have any questions we're to prioritize what would be your number one on this list um I mean number one for me is obviously the parking lots um because like I said that is our biggest black guy um the other stuff is we've already got a really good program with the Federal grant program and the passenger facility charges I think that's just going to run its course but what I need help with as far as priority goes and funding would be the parking lots I think it was 3.7 or 3.5 3.4 yes sir please Tom so Jeremy as you look

[1:38:08] at these things what things make you money uh parking lots make us money Runway reconstruction that stuff makes us money through fuel Flowage I mean that's our Lifeline if we don't have a Runway we don't have an airport um but I mean parking lots is going to be the biggest in in any airport you go to that is the most Revenue generating asset they have for their parking lots it's unrestricted the FAA can't tell me where I spend those those funds that I receive so we can use those for terminal improvements hanger development you know future Big Time infrastructure needs well as we sit there and we go through this whole list of CIP you know you wish you had a set of scissors to cut off what's realistic and what's not but as we look at the future in the next 20 years the things that are going to make it for us are going to be Revenue driven all right and that's one of the things I you know as you look at what you have what can we charge for what will people I know I would pay as a business traveler I would pay a fee per year just to have a pass to park in short-term parking and not because there's times where I'm only gone three days and I'm parked and I think a lot of the time there's ample parking out there but I you know you could sell parking pass I don't know if you could generate 10 grand 20 grand whatever it is every nickel is going to help but as you move forward I think the hangers down there on the south end I see no reason we can't at least go ahead and start trying to Ink those things in there to start the construction and work around the development of the taxiways so I'm I'm with you just full charge ahead but yeah I would love for you to prioritize those things that generate Revenue sure well the business traveler can write it off as an expense so it goes right on expense report yeah so that gets covered it was just you know and I'd say maybe if that's 40 of the people that use it it would just be a simple fee and it's not going to affect that it would not affect me any I would expense it have that kind of parking and if you had you know 4 000 people a year that might look at something like that it's it's Revenue

[1:40:11] comment Jeremy uh no no I agree and what we're looking at doing is not if we did the project we wouldn't have short term long term it would all be one lot and then you pay based off the amount of time that you're at the airport you have maybe you said it and I don't remember it do you have a cost of what these what was the total was the parking lot number on here inclusive of short-term and long-term yes so it's inclusive of both that's the full project this a number I got from my airport Engineers with javiation that does include the arms the paid parking everything but not putting in for example parking meters yeah that would include everything yeah okay other questions for Jeremy or comments while he's here and available how's our flight capacity what percentage are we staying relatively full what's that number what are we looking in terms of in plane and deplaning I mean we're slightly higher we're just over 60 000 the load factors are down around the 60 to 70 percent so the airlines are still profitable but I'll remind you they're bringing in the 175 aircraft with more seats more seating capacity so total number of passengers up total number of passengers is up slightly two percent increase over total Employments but the pilot shortage is a real issue still in today's market you probably read the news and you see that a lot of airports are losing air service and losing frequency so we're down to three flights I think with the 60 to 70 percent we'll keep the three flights unless they pull that RJ that comes in late at night and bring in the larger aircraft good news bad news sure no other questions or comments for Jeremy all right so are we the contract signed

[1:42:15] for with ASU with our partners from Principal LED Jared white so that contract is a contract now that contract is a contract yep and they're paying the lease revenue and and we're seeing some progress over there okay yep thank you thank you all right next one is the animal shelter good morning good morning welcome Morgan [Music] what's before you today is the animal shelter improvements as they've been discussed at a number of recent Council meetings so the Capital Improvements uh just last meeting you all approved the engineering contract so we're getting the purchase order for that item and we'll be able to move forward this 1.6 million dollars is fully funded largely in part largely by the short-term debt issue all right so um let's just talk about uh we're excited about this it should make a big difference out there how are we in terms of seeing our bility to manage the intake is it continually 100 percent 110 percent are you yes so um we when we set the finite capacity for animals in our shelter canines and felines we subsequently adopted a policy where we shifted to a community supported Sheltering model in which case the animal shelter is a resource center for San angeloans but not necessarily an intake 70 percent of dogs are found within a mile of their home so we want

[1:44:19] to match folks that are finders Good Samaritans with some resources we send them home with a it's an optional program we send them home with a crate a bag of dog food puppy pads and a yard sign that says hey are you missing a dog I found a and we fill in the blank black chihuahua whatever it is and so we follow up with those Good Samaritans days later and the vast majority of the time better than 80 percent of the time they are reuniting with the owner in the field then we you know of course course offer the owner opportunities like microchip all the things to to result in a faster return to owner next time so those kind of programs and more that we're rolling out help us stay within our finite capacity so at times that we do close the shelter for intake because we're approaching capacity we still have a number of resources we can offer finders we of course still dispatch an animal services officer anytime there's a call for a dog at large we want to scan that dog for microchip look at lost and found sites get that pet back home like I said even if it's not a shelter intake to be housed at my facility so so those programs and those outreaches absolutely manage our intake so that we can stay within those finite capacities on times we're getting very close to the 180 maximum capacity of canines we do subsequently share a list with the public and say you know any dogs with Advanced Medical temperament and behavior have been euthanized we've exhausted all resources for those animals and we're still approaching capacity with nothing but nice dogs will you help and each time three times now we've had to share such a list and each time we've shared 100 of those dogs uh where they've either been pulled into foster adoption or rescue transfer 23 dogs to date have been listed and subsequently saved as part of that program and we're being

[1:46:23] very hardcore on the spayed and neuter program right because I think we got received a lot of criticism that we were not being hardcore enough or following the process yes so hundreds of additional filings through the Municipal Court this year on failure to spay neuter I don't think it contributes to the conversation earlier about additional filings because that is just a one-off a true up for this year as we work through that backlog and then moving forward we do have the Opera a new tool that came out of these discussions was our rescue partner offers a very low-cost voucher that we can offer at the front counter to somebody redeeming their pet so right there in that moment you're picking up your pet and we say contro Valley pause would like to offer you a voucher at this very low rate uh would you like that and they say no thank you I would like to keep an unaltered pet and we say okay well then you are subject to citations and unless they can prove an exemption they do receive a citation then and there so to prevent a first how often does that happen well it's offered to each and every interaction I would say half I would say half people participate half of the people uh don't buy a voucher and either prove an exemption or receive a citation um Morgan when you're talking about Foster how long do they Foster a dog for or cat so our our finder our Good Sam program is is a very short-term program it's a matter of days that you're holding on to this animal until we have shelter capacity to go ahead and approve for that dog to come in when we are um open for intake you're good my good sams are the first ones we call um hey how's it going are you ready for an intake some good sams say you know it's actually going well thanks for all these resources we hold on to the dog for a little bit of time in which case we transition them from like finder to Foster and get them connected with our Concha Valley Paws so they can get even more resources to continue to care for that animal and we're talking a lot about dogs today because that's where I'm always hitting on capacity but we're using it a lot for neonatal kittens as

[1:48:25] well people find a litter of kittens and we're like the best thing for this kitten is to not be here let me get you some resources and take them home so for those that are going to be there for more than I don't know 10 days they would transition to a proper Foster application with contra Valley Paws through our contract I wanted to make a statement I had uh I read on on next door and it was a lady that was very upset with the animal shelter yet she says because I just had my my cat just had a litter of kittens and I'm just gonna have to leave him here because I can't take him with me and I'm just thinking to myself why didn't you do something to alter that a female cat to keep from having you know neater Spades whatever we call it but I just don't understand why they're complaining about the animal shelter when it's their responsibility to keep that cat from having so many kittens and then them just saying I can't take care of them I'm just going to leave them here and it can pretty quickly become an insurmountable issue you know you have you have a good heart you take in a random cat um you care for it um you uh don't connect with space Services quickly enough she becomes pregnant so we do want to make sure people are aware of low-cost options to get their Cuts paid um we um right now all our community cats are being pulled by Contra Valley Paws to be spay neutered so that they're all going back altered and vaccinated so there's lots of resources out there for folks if they have Community cats if they're aware of a colony we've worked with a number of y'all that are aware of colonies that are unmanaged meaning they're not compliant with the spay neuter component of a colony caregiving and so we connect with those folks we build a relationship we get all their adults spay neutered and their kittens in for adoption and rehab and um it's it's a really good program but we are asking folks to you know step up and be responsible before it's a problem any other questions or comments from

[1:50:27] Morgan yes ma'am yes go ahead Larry uh with the improvements uh you've probably been through this once before I just you need I need to recall what's your improvement in terms of intake of animals to the shelter based on this facility Improvement that's on your CIP for this agenda item is touching almost every system we have it's touching our HVAC our roof our plumbing our it's not touching electrical or Foundation but really every other system that we have including our big room General kennels will be completely reworked in this Capital planning the um the intake and the community supported Sheltering will be in different Outreach programs quite frankly the way we've grown our Good Sam program and done so much more for people who find a pet has come from US housing less pets right so ordinarily by end of May I have approaching 200 cats on the premises I have I think 65 today so instead of paying for that medical for neonatal kittens it's quite expensive to run that program we're able to buy milk to send home with people or be able to buy kitten food to send home with people um that is cheaper than what our budget was spending money on so we're going to not to create a larger facility because we're not in the animal shelter business we're making a rescue business they make us a resource center I want people walking in the door and I want to send you home with resources and and they're they're helpers and their people in this community that want to do that work and um you know nobody spent 30 minutes chasing a dog getting it in their vehicle driving six miles across town to walk in the door and say you clearly don't care what happens to this animal they they want to help they want to do the right thing and by explaining look we've got so many virtual resources for reuniting with pets um through social media Facebook groups and online resources and 70 of dogs are found within their own home or in the

[1:52:29] home neighborhood please take this pet back um the vast majority of folks say oh of course yeah that's the right thing to do thanks for that feedback and are happy to participate um so the there's there's the facility component to make our building what it needs to be just to be operational but then there's a programming component which we've rolled out a lot of since November and we'll continue to do so through the summer for community supported Sheltering because we've already reached capacity many times is what we're talking about but there's never been a day where over 180. um so we're being transparent with our rescue partner our community to say I cannot ever be at 180. if I'm at 180 and I have to euthanize a healthy friendly dog I I need I need y'all's feedback that that's what what you want right um that that everyone knows that that's what I'm doing because that is that is not the intention behind life-saving programming um and these we've assessed these animals through a very thorough process and um if so the capacity is is real and it's what we live by and we approach it regularly but never once have it have have exceeded 180 dogs on the premises I know that most of the complaints of people who've gone out there are the things you're addressing and that is the HVAC the plumbing the smell the drainage the ventilation and it's a 25 year old building and our community has grown so much since then our animal population has grown so much through since then and everything about how the animal services does businesses has has changed since then so talk to us about the time frame we're on now so you've got the money we've appropriated the money the contract's done it's out there and when does it start and when do we anticipate completion the engineers need 60 days um with the contract then we'll be able to let bids for the construction

[1:54:34] crew to come in and that should be a four to six month process so we're estimating to be complete January 2024. 24. right and there's a number of unknowns that can happen between then and there but that is that is our best estimate we just got to know what the anticipation is and of course any any delays or any changes or through this whole process will have a robust communication process right yeah yeah we're not holding you to it we just need to know anticipated there's many of those things totally out of your control and we get that we're just excited that there's a plan and that we are going to get we're going to execute that plan and I think I'll have a dramatic change in people's perception of the animal shelter so yes Lucy Morgan are we having problems with the feral cats um well um you you may we have pockets of town we've invested heavily in the spay neuter of community cats I mean thousands of cats a year um since uh 2018. thousands of cats a year that we are spay neutering and putting back um that is the best practice to overall reduce the cat population in this community and we are seeing that uh you know Decades of catch and kill did not work um when when we when we started spay neutering cats we were taking in probably 4 000 cats a year and we're down to about 1400 cats taken in last year and that's a cross-reference of the community right they give my cat intake is down that should mean there's less cats in the community um it's a rare day that someone catches a cat that's already spay neutered once you catch a cat and spay neuter it it clocks that trap as something it's not going back into so those cats are going back to their home neighborhoods they're preventing new cats from coming in they're creating scarcity so that

[1:56:37] smaller litters are being born and we overall are seeing a decrease in our cat population now we know that there are colonies that are still unmanaged meaning that they are not spay neutered uh they are not vaccinated um so we're making contact with those Colony caretakers um to uh to bring them in compliance um they see us in a white truck with a city seal on it and they're like nope we don't we remember the Decades of catch and kill we don't want you picking up our cats to which we say great it is your responsibility to spay neuter these pets we want you to to do that but if not uh if if you're willing to participate we'll catch your cats we'll spay neuter them a contra Valley paus will spay neuter them and we'll put them back will you let us do that work and we've done that again and again and again over over two dozen colonies that we've brought completely into compliance every cat spay neutered all the kittens are taken in and tamed and put up for adoption so do we have a problem with Community cats no much it's much less of a problem than it used to be um but we're happy to to know those specific addresses and areas to make contact to match them with resources and I would say much better than any other West Texas City Michael what was your comment we're asking the question so we appreciate the information so thank you thank you and it's good because the public watches this and I think it's important that they hear your response to it so thank you anybody else okay thank you thank you all right we're now on Civic events okay his first one's Coliseum so the Coliseum improvements have has two parts one if we keep the Coliseum what we need to do to do some Renovations renovate the

[1:58:39] concessions improve the restrooms improve the parking lot improve the sound system uh just Bare Bones things as you know we've heard yes what do you mean if if we keep the Coliseum is it not ours that's the second part you're correct we'll always keep the Coliseum it's ours the second part is if um we work with the stock show radio Association to fully renovate that facility and we met with them earlier this week to talk about that project and we'll likely bring an item to council into June early July to talk about that possibility as you know they took an item to the county to see if the county could partner to help fund that those improvements and uh I don't think they we were able to make traction that way so they may be coming let's be clear it wasn't the county financing it was the county applying for the dsep grant and the d-sip grant is a federal defense Community Grant and that request is a combination of goodfell Air Force Base working with multiple counties around San Angelo and turning the Coliseum into a Emergency Management Regional facility the d-cip grant is for a maximum of 20 million dollars and with that you have to find matching funds of 10 percent of the total cost of the renovation so let's say the Coliseum is a 38 million dollar project the city between the funds the Stock Show and Rodeo thinks they can raise plus if we get the 20 million dollars and that means Counties have to sign up to support that which we believe they're going to then the city would have to find over a period of time an extra 10 million dollars to complete that 38 million dollar renovation it still keeps the Coliseum as a city property the county is only applying for it the city has applied for the dcip grants the

[2:00:41] past two years so the county is using their ability because it is a Emergency Management facility when we've had things like the flds we housed people there there could be a national disaster of some sort a multi-county tornado for example that we would need to use the facility for housing people Etc that's what that is so I anticipate they we will come to city council at the end of June early July to talk about that possibility and that Grant is due the end of June maybe June 23rd or somewhere so that's the middle of that is the end of June I'm not sure when the announcement of those funds will be made but I think it's September October right so that would be the time frame on that so that's the process those are the statistics that go with it Tom you want to add Harry you want to add to that there's several different options we started with with one and we gave feedback back to the association it's it's hard to do this the time frame to get it on the ballots for a bond issue but I think the most important thing is we look at all avenues gather money to decrease the burden on everyone so I think the direction is we turn everybody loose to pursue what other avenues there are to make money you know what I do like about this is we had this discussion yesterday um it's one thing that helps like I'm asking Jeremy a while ago things that increase the revenue that come into San Angelo kids in beds it's plain Trains and Automobiles and somewhere for them to go but let's not I see what you're saying here but I think my direction everybody is let's just not put ourselves in a box of ways we can go make money

[2:02:44] let's do that that's one of those seasonal patterns the mayor referred to earlier when we were talking about Revenue there's clearly a bump in that season [Music] mayor yes I just wanted to clarify something real quick the decip grant requires a match of 30 percent for cities over a hundred thousand in population we're good because we're 99 000 887 or something right so we're under that hundred thousand so what is the requirement for cities under a hundred thousand there is no match for cities under a hundred thousand we're a hundred thousand good point anyway that I think the number was they thought we would have to come up with 10 million dollars based off of what they thought they could raise for other funds Etc so whether that number's larger than 10 million but is filled in why these other resources like private commitments Etc but we know that that overall project is a 38 million dollar project we think it's an important project we think the city would benefit in a major way with those Coliseum improvements and we know that that those the Coliseum needs those improvements I mean if there's no question that the Coliseum is dated it has a need for those improvements and we would hope that our grant would be the Catalyst for getting this done go ahead Harry the number I heard for economic impact once those improvements are done is 78 million dollars a year 78 million dollars a year that's short-term payback on any monies that we have to invest I agree with Tom let's not put ourselves in a box let's figure out where this this funding can be done and how we can get it done and pursue it what's the current value if it's 78 million is the potential where are we right now

[2:04:47] I would say we're expanding about twice so we're probably about 38 to 40 38 to 40 million dollars right right at the moment bottom line is is you still got an economic impact of uh 35 to 40 million dollars increase per year and maybe not per year but over short period Harold and you helped me here Harry I think back when Harold Dominguez ran a projection back then the economic impact for San Angelo was around 30 million at that time right but it's stock show rodeo in the grounds so we're looking at something that takes period over year and I do think the chamber with their new computer program ran a projection for the association and it approached currently 70 million so it was great it's great and let's ways to increase Revenue right okay keep going for Carl is the river stage whatever stages you've recent the council has recently seen presentations on that we're talking about doing improvements in two phases the first phase addressing accessibility improvements uh first phase being about a million dollars in the second phase following the next year is about three million dollars which includes new new restrooms shade covering perhaps different entrance and other improvements like that and we have some funding sources the hotel accuracy tax um so on the million dollars that we approved have we started the work on it what's the time frame on that what where are we yes we're looking at this next fall winter for the first phase of the improvements so they won't be done because I someone said that you thought it was going to be available the end of July but there's no way that the irrigation the grass or any of that stuff will be done by this summer no

[2:06:49] next winter for the first phase mayor I just want to clarify something that Carl said hotel tax cannot be used for overstage improvements but we are using Civic events fund balance trying to use the hotel tax where we can okay do you want to do the rest of Carl's while he's up here or do you yeah that'd be fine that's a good question yeah go ahead uh I didn't hear it in there but I just want to make sure Ada improvements were going to be included in this yes sir that's in the first phase it's also yes anytime you touch a building you're required to it's not an option parks next Parks just right quick on Brown neighborhood park improvements a lot of that work has already been done the last thing we have to do is installation of the playground we have the playground on hand and we should be getting that project here in the next few weeks it was to follow um construction of the Pavilion at the dog park which is complete except for the connecting walkways next one Buffalo Soldiers and moral as you know that one's ongoing we intend to complete that project and we're working with the area foundation on this one in June have do have some rain delays which is nice to have Mrs Spears has set an event for the end of July for the grand opening so I'm sure it will definitely be done by then well weeks before that Kids Kingdom Playground replacement I'm gonna go on the brown neighborhood park you talked about a dog park we approved that dog park I thought I heard you say that when I mentioned Brown Park we were waiting to install the playground after we finished

[2:08:51] construction of the Pavilion at the dog park oh so the pavilion's been constructed I was going to say that didn't sound right to me yeah I thought that was Kingdom Playground replacement it's a few years out we do need to replace it within a few years we're working with the area foundation on some strategies there they're willing to help as they've done with other projects but they want some of these smaller projects to get off their plate before they help with that project restrooms the Buffalo Soldier have they raised the total amount for that is it totally funded yes but they do want to raise some additional funds to finish out the Landscaping on the additional property that fronts Avenue Oaks uh Oak Street they have enough money to do landscaping but they want some additional funding to put benches and other amenities so the Project's fully funded but they want to embrace some additional funds for some enhancements the restrooms for Martin Luther King Jr Memorial Park that's fully funded as you've heard uh at this point waiting on the final permits to proceed with the project which should begin in the next few weeks and um the restroom's been ordered so yes it should be here in June to begin that project we'll have to work around the the the event in June restrooms at Meadow Creek Park wait a minute I had a question over here a question on MLK um it's fully funded and the permits went through or there was problems with the permits correct and now they're being looked at again what's the problem with the permits I'm just curious [Music] the results one of the issues with the layout of the restroom itself from the manufacturer I

[2:10:55] believe that's been corrected the other was with the the lift station and the sewer line where it had to tap into a manhole which I think has been corrected as well Aaron can you answer that question the question good morning Aaron Benoit uh assistant director Planning Development Services yes as Carl mentioned the restroom structure is a prefab structure and so in the state of Texas it has to have a specific stamp on it showing that it was constructed correctly or the contractor has to take pieces off and we don't want that so the contractor is working on getting that documentation for that as well as we just got the plat back for plotting the property and that's going to be filed probably on Tuesday at the county and so probably as Carl said within the next week or two they should have their permit and start moving forward well at the county since it's on city property the the filing for Platts goes to the county we do we do it at Planning Commission but then they actually file it there for the county records that property had never been planted so we had to go through that process um Carlson when did you say it would be completed it's going to be about three months after it begins so it'll be later this summer early fall thank you okay go ahead to Meadow Creek Middle Creek restrooms they're they're as you recall we brought that out into Council for a resolution to support the fundraising efforts they're doing fundraising but um haven't made significant process progress at this time Riverbank stabilization as you know we do have some funds for that and we do have a grant tied to the first portion of that work starting from Johnson Street to Concho Avenue we will be bringing an item to city council if not the next meeting the second meeting in June we're working on a grant a large grant for about an eight and a half nine

[2:12:57] million dollars um which is a 50 match do basically from Johnson Dam Oak Street Bank stabilization and Trailway work all the way down to where Concho Avenue crosses uh the river by the the nursing home as well as some reforestation of the parks farther down to Bell Street I do this U.S forest Service Grant like I said 50 percent and it's the Project's about eight and a half million dollars we'll bring an item to council to talk about this and uh hopefully ratify that Grant application question mark is that been a side issue where are we on Bank stabilization because I don't want us to get to the point where they're collapsing and the sidewalks are going down or whatever we need to make sure that the bank stabilization program is addressing as we need and not after it's a disaster so do we have areas on the Concho River right now that need to be stabilized that we're not addressing well the Public Works has addressed all the hot spots that we had that needed immediate attention and we're keeping an eye on chain in the other areas that may need immediate attention but we're trying to line up the reason yes we monitor the the banks regularly to make sure that we're not seeing any any new large things that are gonna especially as it gets close to our infrastructure roads sidewalks things like that we are monitoring that regularly yes ma'am so we're trying to line up the resources to do the rest of it comprehensively um and we're working with an engineer now we've met with them twice this month already last time last week to talk about that process and keep moving it forward Santa Rita neighborhood Park renovation

[2:15:01] that's the last funded project with half cent sales tax for Park improvements and so that one will fall um Brown Park and some of the smaller projects Parks is working on now where are we on the 29th Street project that one is designed the design is finished and we're working with the Cooperative purchasing by board to find a contractor to price that out and bring a bid to council probably the second meeting in June 1st in July to move that project forward stop speaking to the microphone yes go ahead Al contacted me on some of that so there's been discussion the past just in the past week on the best way to move that thing forward as fast as we can okay so you're on it and know what's going on okay great thank you South Concho Park Trail renovation that one's towards the end of this cycle and it's gonna follow the twin Buttes uh Reservoir Recreation Trails improvements project that's listed there as well but that is a trail that connects from the river trail Bell Street going all the way up South Concho to connect to Glenmore Park we have high potential to get a grant for that tpwd trail Grant which is a 80 20 match 80 on their part which is good but again we have to make product great significant progress on the twin Buttes Trails project which we're working on now what does that mean significant progress um basically get into construction we're doing all the behind the scenes of work now we're ordering the signs the signs are we already have one batch of the signs in the second batch is being awarded and then we'll do the trail improvements either the summer next winter and complete that project in a little over a year so once that one's on pretty well it's

[2:17:03] on on its way we'll line up the next one which is the South Concho Trail and renovation improvements splash pads as you know we have a resolution on that one as well for All Techs to do fundraising they've made some progress probably not as much as they'd like to with their commitment and fundraising I think they're about at three hundred thousand dollars so the combinations over 800 so we're still looking to fund at least one yes funds aren't there yet for the first one well there's your 29th Street sorry Tom jump the gun and they just felt like Nazareth that's adjacent to the concrete Pavilion and it's farther down the cycle um currently we don't have funding for this but we're looking for grant opportunities what is it compared to the other trails Concho I guess let me group this into okay let me group this into different parts so as you know Barracks three and four was getting they're getting constructed they should be finished this fall and then they do need to complete some fundraising to do the Furnishings for both of those buildings but the construction is made significant progress when's it completed the building's construction should be done this fall but the Furnishing will fall after that we don't anticipate opening those buildings until next year you can't open them until you receive Furniture so they're not going to be usable until then until we furnish them if we could go back to the parks go ahead Larry what on the parks is there

[2:19:06] anything in your budget on what we've described as the infill parks for the areas that uh haven't in the past created a park I wonder if any of your budgeting includes the cost and everything involved with that I think the the answer to that is we're struggling right now if you see that list of even coming up with the funds to take care of the existing parks and if you look at the master Park plan that was done what three years ago yes so we have a long laundry list including those things where the funding falls short of even taking care of these issues as listed so the creating of new parks new park areas is probably way down on the list based off of funding is that correct that's correct we could look at strategies about how we could secure land out where the city is developing for future Park development and look at strategies of how we could start funding infill Park development but currently on the CIP there's not any projects like that because as we've discussed there are areas of the town as it's spread Southwest that don't have a whole lot of parks for one the Bluffs has no Park this flat doesn't have a park and if we don't think about those things we don't start funding it'll never get done we'll have an item as well in the future as far as Parkland dedication we start looking at Green Space and and those type of items that's something that will be coming before the city council as well it doesn't necessarily you're not necessarily talking about this the playgrounds and everything else you're also talking about an inclusion of Green

[2:21:09] Space where people could go and gotcha because uh definitely will be that'll be an item that we'll be addressing here in the future city council well I'm going to reread this just because I think it's worth saying and I'm not saying it's today the city's current level of Parkland is so significant that some parks are considered under utilized this is due in part to the fact that some are misplaced and inaccessible yet others are mismatched to the populace it is serving in an effort to promote and preserve this community commodity Park landing key locations may need to be repurposed I think that's what you're referring to it is it is rare and just as the community park should link to neighborhood parks parks and trails should tie into other Regional facilities including Riverfront Trails Regional Parks Recreation facilities and larger Trail systems experience has proven that it is critical to link existing and proposed Park systems with an extensive and accessible trail system that accentuates the natural characteristics in order to have it be of the most value for the community to Larry's Point I've been working with Carl um just looking at district one district one now that Glenmore Park has moved to Harry's District district one does not have [Music] a neighborhood park now to be fair meta Creek Park is just on the other side of the dividing line between District Six and District district one so for my house meta Creek Park is a neighborhood park but there are Bentwood um has no Park we have parks at the lake but those activities are primarily Lake activity

[2:23:14] focused Parks so I say all that to say maybe we need to have the study updated or re-evaluated from 2009. well we did Carl when was the last Park study done three years ago yes 2020. yeah so we have a new park plan and our Park master plan that was done and the Bentwood thing I think in one way it's correct on the other hand a lot of people choose to be at the Bentwood area because they have the swimming pools the golf course the tennis courts the full facilities that the city could never put into a park and so they have facilities for kids for adults for a broad base of community of which many Community people who don't even live around bent would use the Bentwood facilities for a fee and so there is there is and there isn't and I say that because to the membership yeah yeah to the membership yeah it it is usable you know we're we had city has some land at which we are looking uh Carl has and others have have looked at a neighborhood park in a given area who knows it's it you know who knows if it'll ever happen but anyway it's it's something we're looking at but you know I would tend to disagree with the fact that we have this multiplicity of parks um yeah I'm just reading for him for study we paid yeah yeah yeah I would say we need to update the study keep going and you know I also just want to remind everybody of all the things that have just been presented of which funding is needed what's your total number on Parks so far and these things that we just have gone over um I'll have a cat and all that well I have but 5.1 million that we need to take care of the items that you've listed here

[2:25:18] Ford and hopefully we'll get grants to to fund some of that so it's not a clean number of course but I also know on some of the other existing parks that we have we build them and then we struggle to keep them up to par constantly looking for money so we we need to look at the park we need to bring back and discuss the master plan that we just did on our parks because we pay for those things we put them on a shelf and then we forget to go back and review them so when we're doing this let's make sure we have a park plan in front of us and maybe a special meeting on Parks because we we have this document we have one we did in 2020. let's put this stuff together I mean we pay for these we're supposedly paying experts to pull this stuff together and we have used the master plan recently for Grant applications showing what the public has said that they prefer the most walking trails splash pads we do use that information for Because unless you have a current master plan for your Parks you can't apply for Grants is that correct correct so on the fort projects a lot of the officers quarters those will be towards the end of the this cycle of the CIP we're focusing efforts on Barracks three and four and also the visitor center which is Barracks one and two uh as you know almost all the fort buildings got re-roofed the last few years thanks to council we've had funding to do a lot of the the woodwork window frames fascia board column work made a lot of progress there um but the interior some of the officers quarter buildings do new renovation but as I said those will uh wait after some of these bigger projects for The Visitor Center which is um Barracks one and two we do have plans

[2:27:21] for those improvements and the fundraising for those we do have some money left from House of sales tax for that but we need more we're going to start fundraising for that after barracks and three and four are completed what else is on there that's that's it the fort so going back to your original list that you were looking at I think engineering would be up next okay yeah I'm using the one you sent us so whatever however it goes yeah this is a big one this mayor is mostly the streets related projects that we have on the left around town of course the community accessibility and connectivity project is a grant we have out right now through the us program text Dot we're looking for this grant which would basically extend walkable Pathways from South on chadburn all the way from Avenue L all the way up to 29th Street again uh helping connect the rest of downtown and working through that project as well tell downtown on Chadbourne as well uh 29th going down 29th to Edmond uh back around Glenna to harden Road Arden Road down to Avenue n Avenue N back to Johnson Street Johnson Street connecting from Sherwood Way all the way down to Knickerbocker so a very uh a large project that would create a lot of connectivity around town as well too also some smaller offshoots borgard bringing chadburn basically would be looking bringing it from the hospital District all the way back to koingheim down Beauregard as well and a couple of other smaller offshoots from that as well too uh do again this large project when do we this grant I think is what'd

[2:29:24] you say 20 million dollar Grant or something like that 20 almost 21. do we have a time frame on when they I know we've applied so is there a month that there's October so we shouldn't we should know in October whether we received the grant or not now that with this grant we are competing against the large metropolitan areas we are competing against the dallases and the Austin's and the Houstons for for this grant but uh we believe is extensive this is a very well-rounded project we're connecting a lot of communities together we're connecting our existing Trail systems together uh we're connecting Hospital districts and and and shopping districts and and so I mean we were in again bringing communities back together so we believe that this will compete very well even even with these larger metropolitan areas we believe this will be a very competitive Grant uh let's see next uh construction Rick's Drive sidewalk again we do um have uh this is also a grant as well in the set of stock grant program that we've applied for as well again tying from the park in the school uh all the way down from going from there all the way back up um to Gordon Drive and then we'd connect back over to the church uh area there and and the Dollar General over there as well too so I believe that's and that's on in that and that's in a different category Grant so and but we believe that's very competitive Grant as well too and when are we supposed to hear from that'll be October October as well too so uh we've got that as well um okay uh uh drainage on River Valley Lane this again to uh this has been on there for a while but addressing addressing drainage issues uh in in that um in that neighborhood area right there we have worked a little bit on that uh with the Foster Road project uh trying to redirect and help some of the water that was coming off of the Bentwood area into

[2:31:26] into this area to help redirect some of that we've done some work on that but again there is some more work on River Valley Lane itself that needs to be done to to address and clean that up um we have Lakeview Heroes drive and 208 water line extension uh this is basically to increase capacity and then also bring the water across across the road across 208 to bring a water main service over there so we can tie in for a loop system there um Milling overlay Crystal Road Paint Rock Road to chadburn uh we we have designed we have a design on this project which is a little more inclusive of just Mill and overlay uh this also the reason this number is so large is because we have gone back in there with the design of this looking hopefully to apply for a D ship Grant to cover a portion of this as well too but it also includes some drainage improvements in that area need it especially as we start looking from that Old Midway from there back to chadburn um on that on that side some cleaning up some significant drainage issues in that area which is one of the projects we applied for for the decip ground we have yes we have and also sidewalks and and connectivity as well too are a part of that as well a part of this project so that's why that that's why that price tag is up there because we are addressing a lot in the design but this project is designed again not funded again we're waiting hopefully to be able to apply for a dsip grant to cover the majority of those costs Mill and overlay East Harris from Avenue and Abe that is that is on our year 10 of our rehab list I I will say right now that some of these projects that are pushing out to year 10 were going to have a struggle to fund those at this point just due to the inflationary costs that we've seen in our in our construction costs so there's some of these year 10 projects that while we have them scheduled for year 10 as part of the bond projects right now it's looking like there's going to be quite a few of those that

[2:33:28] are going to have to be pushed and we're going to have to look at other other means whether that's extending the bond program or whatever that looks like as we move in where are we on that Bond program okay so it was an 80 million dollar Bond program we've spent how much of it so far we are I can't as far as what we've encumbered I'm not sure but we've done four of the debt issues we've got one more in 2024 early and it's probably in the spring of next year if they're ready to use it by then then we would look at issuing the final yeah we and we do have three of the major projects the next one on there you can see the 18.3 million for the the Glenna Edmond 29th Street project as you look at that that is one of the ones that's going to be hitting at the end of this Bond cycle and moving into the next Bond cycle uh of course the 18 million would be include included in that 80 million yes yes yes now now in some in some of these that portions of these also include the utilities underneath this this is not all coming out of the 80 million dollar Bond there's there's a about out of this about 9.1 is coming out of the bond issue the rest of that is utility whether that's sewer or water utility so as we move through that again the same thing with Howard Street this project is actually getting ready to be started we've actually been it out we've had pre-con meetings and we're starting to starting work on those and we'll go through some of this as we get into our presentation here in a little bit so um Johnson and Sherwood Wade and Knickerbocker again that's the year 10 project Mill in overlay Chadron 306 to 43rd that's the north Chadbourne project we have this design ready to go out we are working with one of the things that's been holding this project up is working with TxDOT rail to try to acquire right-of-way at the at the heart S turn right there again we have everything to text Dot they're working through their

[2:35:33] process they'll have to take it all the way to the commission at some point to we're still we're still negotiating I thought we'd finished all of that no we're I think everybody's on board we're just working through the red tape at this point I think Texas I think the tech stock Rail and everybody's on board I think we're just working through the red tape to to because they have to assess the value of it and then we it would I have to accept that yes we're willing to pay that for this or they're going to give it to us so they're still working out some of the details on their end but nobody sees an issue with it it's just I I hate to let a bid and before it's before everything's finalized but everything's ready to go we're ready to we're ready to go on that project so again just finalizing that we may try to pull out the 7th Street the 43rd Street to go ahead and get that I wondered if you could go ahead and yes we we may go ahead and start that portion of the project and get that bit out and just pull out the s-curve portion and bid that at another at another time or as we're looking at Phase B of the downtown Chadbourne project we may be able to put that so we're not having a very small Standalone project so we're looking at different options there so we can move this project along we have looked at uh we are looking at pricing working um trying to get some opinions probably cost to do the uh full depth accumulation process which we did right here in front of the nice Convention Center on Rio Concho much faster process so hopefully we're looking at that process on this stretch of roadway so hopefully instead of instead of a year and a half to two year project we're looking at a six-month project so which would be a much faster you're totally pleased with the perform we're very pleased with the performance we saw out here on on rail Concho so uh Millen overlay chairman Street River

[2:37:37] to Avenue L um that's that was a year 10 project and that one may get bumped um right now it's it's just hard to tell but that may get bumped Millen overlay Smith Boulevard from Pulliam Gordon a year 10 project that could get bumped um Millen overlay Southwest Boulevard uh phase and B that's pretty much mostly complete at this point we there the majority of the remainder of it is one we are going to have to go back and redo right there it Green Meadow at Green Meadow uh where we went in there and we we put the concrete work in well when we did that you know we had all the problems with the between Green Meadow and the arroya we'd had all those problems well we got in there and we did such a good job putting that cement down and capping the capping the underground water that we're pushing the underground water back up the hill and so we're starting to see starting to see failures up north of that so we are look we are going to have to go back in there do a little bit of work in that area uh probably put in some type of French type drain to to get that water out of that to keep it from compromising the street but again almost complete there the arroya portion to clean up the area stop right there a minute this is off track a minute but because we've had recent rains and they've been good how has the Avenue P drainage the retaining pond how has that worked it's it's working yes it's exactly what we wanted um again we we would love we'd love to have a little more capacity but it has it's these last rains it's it's worked very well we have we have taken tons and tons of water off of Avenue P that that because as intense as some of these storms have been these last three storms that we've had we would have been having some serious complaints without the storm drain there or the detention Pond there sorry to get you off track but we've only had rain we've not had a lot

[2:39:39] of rain since we put in that oh we haven't so we haven't had a really good test yes challenge it yeah so but again almost through it's just the Aurora portion uh right there from where we crossed the arroya down to the TxDOT right away uh that's the really the main part there we do have us we are putting in a a Crossing signal uh at uh down on uh Hilltop or um Walnut we are putting a a Crossing signal there for the kids at the school down down on the end so uh but that and that should be here um again material material material delays or what's causing that and everything now is anywhere from 20 to 26 weeks out so but yeah but we still hope to have them up before school starts so but we're working through that um let's see Millen overlay Sunset Drive um we are working that is actually in design at this point for a year 10 project Randolph water line replacement that's in design we're at about 90 percent um go back up sorry okay on this Foster Road situation can we talk about that because it became a big conversation with Cox Lane and the drainage and all that was going on there does that incorporate some of the issues that were brought up to us at that point the sunset Cox lane Foster and then sunsets right there as well too and so all of this ties together uh from a drainage perspective a lot of the work that we did do on the um on the downstream side of foster down towards the bottom uh we did we did find that we did have a drainage easement in that area and we went in there and cleaned that drainage easement out uh reshaped it reformed it and we are moving water off tremendously faster I know councilman Hebert along with Patrick and uh they were sitting

[2:41:44] out in the rain yesterday watching it Patrick and I one of his guys were watching it it moves the water it moves the water we found we found out there was another problem spot problem spot that I don't think even our guys knew um coming down Foster and it may actually be in the text Dot right away I think they're going to have to check that out but right there coming off of the loop and if you depending on if you're headed um Direction North on Foster right there in front of the DPS office is a mess a mess um I didn't know if I was going to make it through there even in my truck um and there was car stalled out in there but when you get on got on down Foster by them opening that drainage easement up it was moving lots of water through there yesterday so that was uh much needed but it's very much appreciated um there were people out there filming it with me too I don't know if they lived around there or they just anyway it it it it did what it was supposed sorry to back you up again bud no problem now that is another issue when we're talking about Foster Road from Sunset back to the loop that we will have to look at and probably work with TxDOT uh you know because it's probably their drainage structures on TxDOT because that water does flow the other direction may have to try to work with them to find some alternative solutions to try to uh to try to speed that water up is it to move it on out of there a little faster um that's got to be news to some of the big concerns on Cox Road and Foster Road so that's a real positive it's great the Randolph water line replacement again we're at 90 percent uh completion on design there we hope to have that started by late summer early fall that project which will take it uh replace

[2:43:47] that old Cast Iron Man uh all the way from basically Washington all the way to U.S 67 277 basically what everybody calls or thinks of is the loop so replacing that main that entire way which is is needed we're this is one of our problem spots that um we we lose sleep on at night what's the time frame on that uh it again we hope to have we hope it have it under construction uh early fall of this year so and get it moving so um reconstruction Avenue in the Sherwood Way again another year 10 project we haven't started this one in design yet but we are looking at some alternative methods um for re rehabilitating Avenue in so um it's in really bad shape it is and but again is it is it one of those streets that you could you could use that process that you've done out here we're looking at that for portions of it we do have areas that we have completely lost um uh and that we probably will be looking at some Recon having to use full depth reconstruction on instead of full depth Reclamation on um but again we we believe that we can hopefully cheapen up that that price tag there so um we're we're sure we're sure numbers are astounding I must tell you yes they are um and and again our bids just came back off on uh on Howard Street and just anecdotally um uh we had priced based those prices off of the college Hills which you know we've only been in you know been in construction for a year and uh those price the college Hills prices were already outdated so uh we're yeah it's it's a we're it's a problem it's a problem and it's a battle every day so but we're trying to work I know the rain is obviously we needed the rain we're thankful for the rain but I know it slowed the project up

[2:45:50] but so tell me where we're at currently on that project and what we should anticipate uh College Hill actually College Hills so far has moved along very well um uh we're we're on scheduler a little ahead of schedule actually on the utility portion of it so that's moved along well even with all of the rock that we have encountered on the project but again moving along well there they are up to the last phase getting to Sunset right now currently should be across be working our way across Sunset mid by hopefully by mid mid this next month mid-june and then finalizing the utility portion of this project of the college Hills project finalizing it mid to late July finalizing the utility so the utilities would be completely done at that point uh at that point we will be following right behind the utilities with the Box Culverts for the drainage we already have box culverts r82 Oak Forest and Oak Forest Court they're already to that point again following the utility construction hopefully we will be finishing that up early fall and then that way the rest of it is just road work at that point so we sh we're still on schedule to try to have everything from basically Vista De La Roya all the way back to Avenue N um we're on track to have that done hopefully by August we were hoping Late July August we're about three weeks now behind because of the because of the weather and kind of looking into next week so it may be late August September before that's completed but again we are moving um moving along very well on that project so but hopefully but like I said by hopefully into August September everything from Vista De La Royal back to Avenue N will be fully complete and

[2:47:53] then we'll just be working on finishing up from Vista delroya to the loop and we're about a year out for total completion you so we know that there's been constant conversation about the sunset Lake and the Park View Lake uh is there conversation today on the drainage of the sunset Lake slash yes it's it's further on down it's further on down in the list Foster Road uh again we we have this actually stretch and this is Foster Road South um heading into Butler Farm additions uh basically we'll go uh to River Valley Lane back to the loop this is in design right now there we don't have funding identified for this at this point but again it is in our Hazard mitigation plan so this would be a prime project if and that's why we have it in design so we can have uh have it Shelf ready we have it on the shelf and the plans are ready to go in case we can get some Hazard mitigation dollars from the federal government this is a prime project for that so we're hoping that we we will see some of those dollars roll around in the near future the reason we want it uh Shelf ready is because we have most of the time on those Hazard mitigation grants there is like a 90-day turnaround on those when they announce them so annually it's it's based on when the when the federal governments have issued uh disaster declaration somewhere and then they this These funds are unused and so since they've already been issued out for disaster declaration they will go out to communities and let communities apply for Grants to use up those remaining dollars and so most of the time that's when we see those grants come out and that's why the turnaround time is so tight on those is because of that so but again that's why we want

[2:49:55] this one it is a prime uh prime target for one of those grants so reconstruction of South Jackson from Knickerbocker to the railroad tracks this is actually should be I think it's in bid right now it just came out in the paper sober in one or the South no this is this is South Jack this is South Jackson from the railroad tracks back to Knickerbocker that sort short section there uh to actually go in there and widen that right you know between the Taco Bell and the Chick-fil-A right there to actually widen that a little bit there um redo the signalized intersection at that area we do have some funding that Chick-fil-A put up when they constructed right there they basically deferred the money to the city until we do the improvements we're we're doing no improvements so that project should be starting hopefully uh mid-summer uh so there were some Grand opportunities uh for rail railroad crossings Etc was there anything there that we could apply for not not in the there were some there's some smaller grants that we can look at to go back and work with TxDOT on uh for um actually to do The Crossing improvements for rail arms and things like that for the crossing uh to improve Crossings we can work with TxDOT to see if we can do those that is not a part of this project currently so yes please visit that one on the Chick-fil-A they gave us money to redo the construction well there instead of um instead of them doing the construction themselves at the time which would have been counter intuitive to the plans that the city had for that entire intersection right there they um they basically set aside that portion of the money and gave it to the city for us to hold on to until we did the con the rest the remaining construction that we wanted to do for that intersection

[2:51:57] the widening of it the widening of it so basically a Knickerbocker or on South Jackson on South Jackson yeah on South Jackson so we have that money sitting in an account waiting for us to utilize that with our project okay so go back to the one before that which is the railroad tracks to South chadburne North chadburn yeah it says reconstruction North chadburn from railroad to tracks to the river I don't think we covered that one maybe oh oh oh face B oh this is Phase B of the downtown project okay okay all right yeah there we go okay sorry uh yes uh this has been 100 it's 100 designed again we're waiting uh on for funding on this one we don't have identified funding for this one specifically we do all the utility work has been completed on this uh but we do have the grant out to set us set aside Grant right now that would cover all of The Pedestrian elements along this route so if we get the grant that would cover the cost of pedestrian elements and then we would just be looking to secure the funding for the street portion of it but again the utility work has been complete all utility work has been completed and the design sits at 100 percent uh so it's ready to go at show for 80 where again we're just funding on that one uh yes yes ma'am uh Shady Point bridge replacement this is out at uh Lake nasworthy uh one of the bridges going into the subdivision Shady Point subdivision there um is is in very poor shape and isn't needing to be replaced um there is another way in right now but again we do have it load limit this that bridge is now load limited uh to a very low amount basically uh cars only um not even delivery trucks things like

[2:54:00] that are supposed to be going over it at this point again that need need some work there you have the 160 000 uh and and that's good no well I think 160 that I mean we probably need to update that number currently that that number may be a little old but and also there is some utility work that will have to be done at that at that area as well too because we do have we do have sewer going across right there as well too so we will need to probably put some uh utility money into that as well too which I'm not as worried about that currently as trying to find 160 000 out of operating dollars to to cover that so give us a obviously you can do it right now but please bring back to us what that total cost is I think we would all be concerned that it's in that poor shape and vehicular traffic is questionable so let's not ignore this issue we'll bring we'll bring back an updated number on that and and get that in the works so uh three yes 378 utility relocations this is part of the TxDOT project on okra Stovall Road uh from The Tavern out to the from North or South Chevron out to the loop um this is relocating all of our water lines underneath that uh underneath that roadway to get them out from underneath the new Road Road section which will all be a concrete road section going forward this is uh it's it's been let through the state and they are expecting to start construction uh late fall uh there's mpo money there assigned to it right yes there's MPL money assigned to this uh and so mpo the state did have to the bids again like most bids nowadays came in well over uh what the OPC was on it so the state did have to use quite a bit of discretionary dollars on it as well um the the utility work uh our utility

[2:56:03] work did come in uh over expected OPC and so we will be I will be bringing an item back to city council uh to um to again to help the advanced prior to uh basically give it a more advanced funding to Tech stock that was over just so so has TxDOT let that uh project out has it been a project they let out because I was at the Texas Commissioners meeting yesterday and the amount of projects that they let was astounding and the amount of over and above projected costs into the multi-million dollars were approved there were some prod I mean it was amazing to see the amount of projects that were LED how over forecasted the dollars were and how those projects were immediately approved yes ma'am and this this was one of those projects that that fell under that um we were there to speak towards obviously Transportation issues for our Porsche Plains area but also specifically we had an opportunity to talk about San Angelo and so I know I mean it was I just can't say it enough it was amazing it was this this project for them did come in substantially over what what their estimate was so I I believe 40 percent over what their estimate was on this project so it was that was a staggering number when they got that number back but they did again they did decide to move forward with the project so the project is moving forward and time frame on that again we should start this fall and it's a two-year project so uh stormwater quality improvements this is just our this is just general projects uh that we list on there in case we find grant funding or other other opportunities

[2:58:06] um that we can again apply for and and we have several issue or we have several of them identified through our Master drainage plan so if again if we do have uh grant opportunities come along we have it listed in the CIP uh Sunset Lake and Parkview Lake improvements this is the dredging uh we have we we've done all the work we have opcs we are at this point we have some some funding for portions of it but we are lacking we are lacking some funding so we have the homeowners association have to come up with part of the Park View number not the sunset number right but the homeowners associations there we yeah we would we would we would like for them to uh again we as we look at as we looked at the numbers and we are working I am trying to work with the with the design firm uh to to look at some alternative solutions for the Parkview Lakes uh their their number their number was quite staggering in the OPC just simply because of the pumping issue how far we would actually have to pump that material to dewater it um and and so that number was very large on on the Parkview Lake one so we are looking at some alternative funding sources for that um and again to to I believe we have about 1.5 1.7 million that we have right now that we could put towards this but again as you can see where the OPC is at about 3.34 does it make sense to start with the sunset Lake piece of it because obviously Sunset Lake flows into the Parkview Lake and so the biggest issue is the park what the sunset Lake flowing into the Park View like so if we cleaned up the sunset Lake as the first priority and delayed the Park View Lake does that make any sense at all or is that just waste of time effort money no it's it's not and actually there are two different stream flows so the majority of the Park View especially the North well they are two different basins catch

[3:00:11] basins so um the reason we're trying to put these together is is trying to have the scale of the project you know be large enough that we're going to attract bidders to to come in and do multiple bidders to come and do this and hopefully drive down the price so uh economy of scale type of situation there so uh but again we are looking at some alternatives for the pumping um on the on the Parkview Lake aspect of it to see if we can find an alternative to bring that cost down because again the pumping costs are what were what were the driving Factor behind that uh Inc higher price on those on that Lake uh General Street construction uh this again for any Grant you know you've seen my somewhat long list already of what we've got out there uh for pricing so this is uh and needs on streets but again if we can find a grant grant opportunities things like that we have a general street reconstruction or construction uh items set in there so again we're not having to come back and amend the plan as we move forward if those Grant dollars become available and then Twin Mountain Drive Extension this would be a proposed extension of Twin Mountain Drive from where it stops today close to Southwest Boulevard which would extend it there all the way to U.S 67 or Sherwood Way for I guess Sherwood Way stops at the edge of town this we would come out right there or close to the city limits where the city limit sign is it proposed at 14.1 million all right so we're looking at 217 million dollars of the 217 million dollars what percentage of that would be something that would be covered by existing monies and or grants in the next 12 to 18 months

[3:02:16] uh the utility projects that I listed there um in there anything in the utility portion of it is funded um again there's probably probably 50 million of the other that has funded that would cover the next 12 to 24 months so of that is that part of the 80 million dollar Bond so you've got 20 million left in it approximately we have one more bond issue we do have the we still have monies remaining because some of these projects are still that we have listed here are active projects and have all of those funds have not been expended yet so that 50 million includes the active projects while the monies may have been encumbered we have not expended those dollars yet so and so if we were to again prioritize these issues the one I mean I get they're all important and I don't I mean I think we all know each of these projects have huge needs behind them Shady Point seems to be a real critical issue smaller dollars but critical and we know that we have the two Grant applications for the community accessibility and connectivity project of 20 million as well as the construction of Rick's Drive sidewalk so those two 22 million dollars are Grant applications as we speak correct and um and we didn't we didn't include those since we since we don't know we didn't include that in that 50 million so that yeah they're competitive so we that's not part of that 50 million dollar number that we were talking about so um questions comments other concerns other issues not listed here from anybody

[3:04:17] and you'll see as you'll see as we go on there's there's a lot more I know my point is this document in 2009 listed just for infrastructure Street Maintenance 300 million yes ma'am that that number is probably closer to 800 million today now we have again we we've we started taking some big chunks out of it you know the Bell streets the Southwest College Hills we are taking some really big chunks out of that uh but again those um and but we're also expanding and we're we're growing and we're adding more streets so it's one it's one of those that that number does continue to grow uh from and to bring again when we did the fugro study back in 2015 then that number was 500 million uh then to bring our road condition scores back up you know to an 80 or 76 70 to 80 you know PCI score range so that's just non-existing that's not anything new and that was just on existing roadways at that time so and again so even though we are making headways uh making Headway uh we're we're I mean that number just keeps growing especially with the inflation factors that we've seen lately that they're that number's growing exponentially great presentation um overwhelming concerning strategically we're going to have to figure out how to deal with it as particularly because of the 80 million dollar Bond not going as far as we thought it would certainly back in 2017 so um I appreciate the work and the effort and the detail of what you guys have put into this laundry list it certainly gives us a great overview of the big picture of things that need to be dealt with sooner than later if you will so um okay and if we we do also have a list for operations in water utilities if

[3:06:20] yeah do it now because it ties into this yes yes they all still tie in so if we have yeah and what we'll do is following the presentation on facilities we will take a lunch break so if you'll do this and then we'll take a lunch break I think it'll be about time because we're at 11 55 now so go ahead and do this and then we'll take a lunch okay run through these real quick uh the Ada self-assessment transition plan this is a again a set aside grant that we've applied for this as well too we are working we are working on a trans the transition plan a self-assessment transition plan as we speak but again this is uh a grant opportunity to help us complete uh the more detailed portion of it when we start talking about the the streets the sidewalks [Music] Crossings those type things so pedestrian Crossings those type of things so we have that Grant application out right now again we're already working on the process but again trying to trying to help find some funding out outside funding to help pay for these uh these things that we're already working on so I would think some of the sidewalks that txdot's putting in have helped a lot in terms of these Ada issues they didn't complete it but I mean yeah they are working in and so that does out of the 121 signals that we you know signalized intersections we that we actually have responsible for maintenance on the major a lot of the well I'm gonna say 60 of them 68 of them 65. in the 60s uh of those uh signalized intersections they're on textile right away so uh that is that is helping in that aspect as well um we are also working with TxDOT on some highway safety Improvement projects

[3:08:23] uh where we are going to be looking at replacing signalized intersections um along uh mostly along um uh North and South Bryant but uh well safety is a number one was one of the number one issues the Transportation Commission talked about and Alvin new heads up the safety aspect of TxDOT and he's really looking at safety issues as a key and and so and so we are we we took the we took the intersections within the city that actually had the highest number of traffic accidents at them and we applied for those grants and received those grants uh working working with TxDOT and so um again we we're getting uh five inner well two two on one program um and then four on another program are being replaced uh the signalized intersection was being replaced and all the safety pedestrian elements are being upgraded so again working working with TxDOT and working through those programs so it's that's the other thing they're focusing on is mobility walkability bicycle ability yep I don't know if that's a word but we just made it worked the next item there is emergency trailer storage just for the new um emergency command trailer that we have for the city uh but trying to get a storage facility for not only that trailer but also the police department's trailer emergency trailer response trailer as well uh to keep those assets covered in where are they now uh they're currently stored over at our uh vehicle maintenance yard and so that's where they're stored at currently um again just want to get a cover on those so we can protect those assets and then Lake Nas were the improvements uh this was the referendum that we went out to the citizens uh to use the lake nasworthy funds to a portion of it was for the lake nazarethy uh drunk main improvements and then also uh for uh improvements around the lake uh boat

[3:10:28] docks those type of things where are we on the the number one fishing pier yep uh it is it is the pier is actually 100 complete we are waiting on um parking and accessible sidewalks to the pier before we open it but again we should be within the next hopefully 30 to 45 days we should have that complete it is we need to get it up yep we're we're working on it trying to get all that completed and so we should we should have that open in 30 to 45 days we're pushing pretty hard on that one so working hard on that there's a question or comment Larry Karen it was me okay I would like to ask if it would be appropriate before we get too far down your list to ask for comments from our Ada coordinator about the impact of tech stock activity on some of the things that were mentioned in the prior item I'd like to hear what she has to say about the actual impact I think he had compliance the tech stock improvements are certainly helping Tech Stop with their compliance under the Ada but we have still this Ada self-assessment and transition plan process we need to go through a lot of the projects that are listed on the CIP do require Ada accessibility upgrades as those projects are completed that's something historically that a lot of cities not just us haven't done particularly Mill and overlay people generally thought Ada was only required when it was construction or reconstruction that's not the department of Justice's guidance now and it certainly wasn't the way they always looked at it there's also curb ramps that I know Shane and I have talked about that there are locations in town that either we have reconstructed a road or done one of those processes where we should have included curb ramps and they weren't done or the curb ramp that's there is not sufficient we're receiving some complaints and grievances so that's another area that we really need to start spending some attention looking into answer your question Karen

[3:12:32] we have a list of those well that is in part what the transition plan does the transition plan requires that we go on a very detailed basis through pretty much all the city streets sidewalks and locations including downtown as well as in our neighborhoods and identify places where those facilities are missing there's a number of cities in Texas who have recently gone through that process I think Dentons has 280 Pages worth of Corrections they have to make Colleen is under a settlement agreement with the Department of Justice and they haven't even started evaluating theirs yet but I anticipate they're going to have a similar length of number of Corrections so we do based on complaints know where some of those concerns are we all know just walking around or driving around where some of those concerning areas are but to have a total list that is what the transition Plan update will do for us and that transition plan will be available when Shane we're again you have nothing else to work on I know so no well we are working on the RFQ process right now so when one for this for either for this grant or we do already have um the safe roads for all grant that we did require that we did already received well we were awarded we have not received it yet um they they actually had a um a bigger uh a bigger group of folks apply for that Grant and receive that Grant than what they anticipated so it has slowed them down on their process as well but for that we do have to go out for an actual RFQ for this process and so but part of the Safe Streets for all program that that's going to be more of a high high uh 60 000 yeah um sixty thousand feet view of what we're doing for the transition plan but it's a phase one step and so it's going to go out basically identify all of the safety issues that we have at all of our intersections along our streets and everything like that other sidewalks pedestrian facilities all of those things so that's going to be the phase one of this and then phase two is where we actually are going to take and start

[3:14:35] looking at all of the details of this this this intersection needs curb ramps here here and here we need a landing here we need these pedestrian elements here and so that's when that's going to be phase two as we move forward and so and whether we receive this grant or not we're still moving forward with phase one and phase two uh we're just trying to again make our city dollars go further by applying for the grant and trying instead of pocketing it all out of our operating funds so again but again moving forward so we hope to actually start uh the the phase one we actually hope that we're going to be able to start late summer early fall the modification make sure that that high level view includes enough detail that we can considerate our transition plan we have been telling TxDOT under a complaint with the Department of Justice for over a year that we're working on that so I think it is important to make sure that whatever we're doing in that process does qualify as a transition plan for us so that we can keep everybody happy so go ahead to finish the lake Nas Where the improvements Lake nesworthy improvements they are moving along quite well we have we have been able to secure two two uh boat remote dot grants basically and through Texas Parks and Wildlife which has actually helped these dollars go further uh and so we are actually they're finalizing design on the first three now should go to bid um this summer and then as we get in out of Lake season we'll be ready to go to work on those and get those uh get those those three docks there we've applied for another grant for design of the Red Bluff Road complete Red Bluff Road ramp complete re rework of that entire ramp since that ramp is uh effectively shut down and non-usable at this point and then also for a non-motorized launch in sleep in the

[3:16:40] Sleepy Hollow area as well a design for that as well so Grant dollars for that we will apply once we get those designs and that back again next year we'll be seeing more grant opportunities come along that we'll apply for through the for through the Boating grants program and not only for Construction Construction dollars also design dollars for the we're looking at another one on Fisherman's road that we will apply for in the next Grant round so again trying to maximize these dollars as far as we can through Grant dollars additional Grant dollars so we have also purchased a boat specially designed for aquatic vegetation control and so we will be seeing that get here real quick I believe you'll approved that a couple of Council meetings ago so we're hoping to see that and start working on some vegetation management out there at the lake as well so moving along very well on that project mayor I know we still have two or three more sections to go I don't know if you want to bring that keep going okay this for the vehicle maintenance shop looking at expansion of the city's fuel infrastructure and upgrading the fuel of our fuel fuel sites another one here in town but also out at the airport our location at the airport those are starting to get dated those sites are dated some of the infrastructure is dated and also we are seeing we we also covered was worse but we're all we have seen um when we start getting the fuel shortage issues to where storage capacity issues for us to where we have a hard time getting delivery trucks as soon as we need them and so expanded capacity is also an issue that we're looking at as well too so as a part of this project there is some some funding fund balance that we can use to support this but

[3:18:44] definitely not all of it so again still still trying to find the dollars for that Solid Waste this is for um basically looking forward permitting um basically a new landfill we still we are still working through with our consultant that we have on board right now still working through a lot of the preliminary work so we are again this is moving fairly slow it's a fairly slow moving project again but this would be for basically design and construction of a basically a new landfill and then going through going through the final permitting phase so questions for Shane on the new landfill just wanting to make a statement and that was just to thank you and your staff for working so hard and going through this and we realized how hard you really work I I have I have wonderful staff that helps me through all this I just have to try to remember it all well I know it's a great laundry lesson it's not a complete list so that's the other issue that's staggering is uh looking at traffic operations facility uh of course I think we also have in here maybe some another another slide further on that talks more about uh maybe a public works looking at redoing a public works facility and taking more of a holistic approach but this is for uh some of our infrastructure building infrastructure in the public works areas is quite aged and getting quite outdated so facility improvements there traffic signal replacement uh looking if if we are able to find money we do have again about 50 singleized intersections that do need to be updated or 61 it says there that need to be updated and rehabilitated and brought brought in to meet the current standards and then Twin Mountain Drive

[3:20:47] Knickerbocker Road signal it has been approved it's uh we have issued a nose proceed and we are waiting on they have ordered the polls we're waiting on poll delivery uh probably looking at another 18 to 21 weeks before we'll see those polls are up there's only there's only two manufacturers in the United States making polls currently maybe we should recruit a manufacturer to San Angelo they get the manufacturers again uh again more facility improvements again aged infrastructure uh where the where these guys work uh I believe this this building was built the ones that they're officing out of currently history and Bridge was uh constructed in the 1950s late 1950s and has not really been added on to or improved since so again just looking for improvement dollars there but again I think we do have another request looking at a greater bigger picture but again lots of dollars Public Works yes uh Public Works uh we have the uh City City Hall Annex uh this is the standard Times building uh we have looked at uh remodeling this building and you can see the the price tag there again would be looking for Council for direction on how or what we would want to do to move forward with that and then a public works facility this would this is the one where we would look at kind of doing a revamp of the Public Works area as a whole looking at all the facilities out there on Saint Ann Street not only from the from the vehicle maintenance side traffic Street Bridge storm water water utilities utility maintenance looking at all those facilities out there that are again getting quite aged and needing some some definite work and trying to create a trying to create a new facility um for for all of those folks to work out of on the city hall Annex the 14 million

[3:22:51] two is that what we have designed to become a future police station how did we come up with the 14 minutes no that was that was looking at uh that was looking at moving Public Works and the Fire Marshal's Office out of the uh the current city hall Annex that we're in and and basically gutting and redesigning the existing standard Times building to to house Public Works and and the Fire Marshals all well we'd look at the fire marshal maybe being in the old Clinic building over there remodeling it as well too and along with the standard Times building and working working both of those properties into that for that 14.2 uh and again that's station or not that does not include any any dollars for the police station we just have a lot of vacant space currently again with the standard Times building would would work again it it worked it would work well for public works but we we went we worked with Kenny Architects to kind of do a um overview of basically a layout plan of kind of a layout plan of what that would look like for public works and it did actually include bringing uh the Emergency Operations Center from from um or a facility for the Emergency Operations Center to be placed in the basement of this building as well to be able to free up the space out there at the airport for that building to be freed up for any future use that could be used out there for that again looking that possible Grant dollars could be tied to that for a new Emergency Operations Center there are lots of grant opportunities in that realm of things that could help with some of the construction costs there of course working with Brian and his Lorelei to bring the Communications Department into into this building as well and along with all of Public Works the engineering

[3:24:52] water utility and the operations moving everything out of the other Annex the old First Financial Bank building over to this location to this location which would free up that building for the police department to be able to rehabilitate into a new facility for them mayor there was discussion as far as the the looking at the possibility of the standard time is building for the police station but I know the guys the Chiefs did an evaluation looked at the space that was available even the parking for the police vehicles and all the equipment that they currently have and it just wasn't it just wasn't big enough even close to as big enough as what they need at this point so that's why it just reverted back to discussing it as a Public Works building so we will have a number later on about the police station well the the police station itself will be we're still looking at the the city hall Annex once the everyone moves from the city hall annexed into the standard Times building the uh the city hall Annex where it is right now will will be the uh the area that we're discussing for the police department and the costs associated with it will be discussed later on so meaning not today but later on meaning not today or yesterday we'll see right now uh I know the Chiefs have maybe what they uh would be a kind of a really a guesstimate because we really haven't done anything the study is necessary to determine what exactly it's going to cost for the police department to move into that building so right now really all we would have would be more of a a forecasted guest really to kind of give us an indication what the cost may be so it's twofold as as you can tell of course we have the Public Works moving in and then uh police department looking at the the City Hall Atlantic so that's two totally different costs is this is only for public works and the individuals that will look at move into the standardized building all right keep going

[3:27:00] operations public works okay if you want a break for lunch we can come back and do water and sewer or however is that you want to take a break for lunch yeah let's do it presentation okay next up on the Water Utility side we have um City Hall Annex improvements hundred thousand this is for the elevator the elevator we've done a lot of work on the on all the systems over there most everything is up to uh new and working in good working condition now the elevator has reached its uh the end of its useful life and is in need of replacement we we do have quite a few issues with it and have the repairman out quite often so we have this in there as well uh next up elevated storage tank this is on for the Northeast part of town um is as we start seeing that part of town grow we we're starting to have some issues uh getting enough water and pumping enough water up into that part of town so uh if currently we're okay but we're we're expecting probably in the next three to five years that we will have to add additional storage up in that area uh for that area specifically is watching uh it kind of when you start looking at the Poland area up in that the Northeast part of town out 277 Industrial Park uh even kind of back over towards 208 kind of in that Corridor segment as you look there up towards the rail Park yes kind of yes all that area up in there we are going to need to look at Future expansion of elevated storage in that area so the storage you're saying is 11 million and I think you had quoted somewhere in the range of 10 to 15 million on doing the Circle water sewer line around the rail Park areas well three and a half three and a half million I believe was the last number that we looked at on doing the the water main extension in that area which would create a new Loop that would

[3:29:03] go up through there probably another uh four to five million for the suicide of it for a lift station to get the to get the sewer from the rail Park to the closest um collector main that we have in this in the city there so that's not included that's not included in this this is just elevated storage and this does not include design either this is just construction cost right here so probably looking at another million and a half two million on design for the elevated storage and that's number unfortunately um like a lot of the numbers that we we see and we hear they get outdated really quick so this number is probably a year old and so that it may be a little higher than that now but again we're we're still sticking with that number until we actually work through the process and start getting a consultant on board and start looking at the design processes so um Hickory groundwater expansion I'll go into that a little bit further uh in my other in my next presentation uh when we start going through projects but again the expansion the Hickory groundwater system for um our water supply needs um nuclear well that also goes with is going on and piping there at the plant that kind of goes in hand in or it's in the same project as the Hickory and so we'll talk about that as we get into the next presentation water and chemical building and hypertenses we have um this is as we're looking into the future and we start looking at the uh Concho River project that is in the permitting phase right now again I'll talk about that a little bit then but this will be a project that will go along with that as we move forward along with the Water Production Control Center and lab those two projects together kind of go hand in hand with the Concho River Project um what are treatment are we on getting the permits for the Concho River Water Project we have we actually have the discharge permit we have we already have that in place and we were working on the

[3:31:05] Ben Banks process now hopefully kind of timeline hopefully we'll see a draft permit we're hoping sometime this fall late summer early fall we'll see a draft permit and then from there things will start picking up it's picking up speed a little bit from that point I know it has been sitting on high Center for a couple of years now but things are starting to move on the bed and Banks so we'll see that be seeing that come along there next Water Treatment Plant improvements this these also go along with that project as well the North Country River project for the 62 million four hundred and two thousand that that will be a part of that next next phase of the project for the treatment of that water also looking and I'll discuss this a little bit later on in my other presentation as well too but we'll kind of overlapping somewhere from the water um we just approved another piece of that last city council meeting so we have from the Texas water fund or something oh Texas water development that was that was the additional cost of the Hickory groundwater Expansion Project at 13 million that we just did that was part of the existing project that we have now that we got the 13 million for so that that was this part of the upgrades that we're doing now to for the clear well and some of the piping and the work that we're having to do in the Hickory treatment facility there here in town so some of this is in that 13 million or not no no this is this is all separate this yeah this is over and above that a separate project so and and some of this looking at well we'll get into that later on so that doesn't sound good oh we'll get into that well in the other the other presentation we'll start talking about some of the longer term things that we need to look

[3:33:06] at is that it or go back okay there you are uh water meter reading Ami system equipment upgrades we have started this project uh we are doing it in multi-years we remember oh three or four months ago five months ago we came to council authorized us for 2.7 million this first year to initiate this project and again this will be an ongoing project over the next three years upgrading all of our meters and The Collector system that goes along with our meters or meter reading system Lake operations maintenance facility the uh the existing facility there just kind of a revamped old shed and houses and shacks and definitely way past its uh it's its useful life uh looking at uh currently one of the biggest things we're looking at is trying to find an appropriate place for this facility uh to to rework it right there as you come in off Fisherman's Road you the existing facilities there uh not necessarily maybe a good location but doesn't not necessarily bet the best representation for the cities you're coming from the airport or going to visit the lake so again we want to upgrade that facility and probably find a better location for a maintenance facility than right there on the main road coming into town and and entering into the lake I I don't believe a paint job will help that one no ma'am yeah uh a m water replacement this uh we're approximately 60 percent throughout this project maybe even a little further at this point um again we're doing pipe bursting process on this uh slowed down a little bit we did have the change order the other day on the valves because we did find several valves that we're going to have to replace in this project and so

[3:35:09] working through that but again 60 70 percent complete on the on this project uh Lake Nazareth sanitary sewer collection system improvements luckily this number decreased substantially we're at 35.9 instead of 54 million thankfully uh so but uh we just got the POS and so fixing the issue notes we've had free con pre-con meetings on this I'll go through this in my other presentation a little later but uh moving moving along on this project as well is there a lot of interest in terms of people wanting this project we are we we've already assigned it right yeah yeah we have yeah yeah we've already done it we're we're issuing POS currently issuing POS and noses to proceed we've already had a pre-con meeting so we're ready to get started so yeah yes we are working we are still working on two or three easements that in one of the easements specifically is uh where one of our boards is going to go under the river where we come up on the other side that's one of these ones we're waiting on that has kind of slowed us process down just a little bit because they they don't want to mobilize all of their boring cruising their boring equipment in uh and get everything else bored and then be hung up waiting on an easement so before they can start that last pour so they don't want to have to demobilize and then remobilize again so um so that we've kind of that's has been a small hang up but we think we're about we think we're working through this and uh should have some resolution fairly quick on on that one uh on that one easement so but again we're we're ready to move forward with this project uh Water Reclamation plan improvements this also will go along with the um North uh with the river Concho River Water Project future future project there uh lift station improvements uh General

[3:37:12] um lift station improvements um just normal uh kind of a general line item there for for work progress well some of those grinder stations just yes we we will we will be taking uh when it's all said and done we will be of course adding one major lift station but removing one two three four I can think of off top of my head maybe five lift stations that will be taken offline with the lake nasworthy we have another project here that we'll talk about um the this North Concho River and sanitary sewer collection system improvements the CIP and then the one below it are kind of the same are going to be the same project basically we'll probably bid them out at the same time the first one is basically from down there as you Bogard and Harris where you cross the river right there going back north of 14th Street is doing the the basically relining the sewer line uh in that area a major collector line there lining that sewer segment there to get some more life out of the existing pipe and then the other one is going to basically be able to let us take the shallow lift station offline which is right there at shallow which causes us quite a bit of grief from time to time so and again it is it's one of the older ones and be able to take that off we'll be able to again we'll siphon take it siphon under the river and then a new line that'll go down through Santa Fe Park and tie into the one that we constructed and built oh four five six years ago now uh we'll tie into that one it may be longer than that now my time time flies uh and then vacuum truck uh this is the one where we keep our vacuum truck um in in in the CIP those are large pieces of equipment and and quite costly so on the lake Nas Where the sewer project talk to me about okay the POS

[3:39:17] when do we think this actual work will start and what is the time frame remind us again at the time frame to complete the project um uh hopefully they're we're going to start we'll see mobilization start uh within the next 45 days and so we would hope construction would start where they're actually starting to bore uh within the hopefully the next 60 days and then and even sooner if they can get here sooner and we can get mobilized in here sooner uh we're we're ready we're ready to get this project started again waiting waiting on those last easements but we believe we're we're making Headway on those so uh but again I'm hoping within 60 days it will start construction and then it is a 24-month contract uh and it's actually two contracts there will be the pipeline contract and then there's also going to be the lift station contract those are two separate contracts the lift station contract will start um once the once the siphon under the leg or not this often once the um once the bore underneath the lake and we get all that work done once that's done then they will come in and start the lift station work right behind that and remind me if no I know because we have capacity issues and we have people who are willing to want to start doing some new development out there so but nothing can happen until this whole thing is done so in other words there's not going to be a piece of it done so then all of a sudden we can start something new it's got to be complete and yes ma'am it has to be completed we have to tie we have to tie this new sewer into our existing sewer it has to all be in place uh before we can actually start pumping through the system so it will all have to be in place and I'll have to be there now there may be some of the other legs the secondary legs of the system we get the primary trunk Main in some of the secondary some of the secondary lines that we're going to use to take other lift stations off that aren't necessarily part of the main trunk we could be working on those

[3:41:20] secondarily to that but again that's that's a work schedule and work process and again we'll we'll work with the contractors we're moving through to see if we can speed that process up to where we can get the main trunk line serviceable and ready uh but for the most part we're going to have to go from point A to point B um there may be some again some secondary subsidiary work that can be going on after the fact and after it's uh in service but it's pretty much point a point B has to be complete me all right are you done I'm done good job again as we've said wow colors are wow I mean I don't know if you know the answer to this but have they already started the testing of the water in residential areas you know for the left for the fire stuff yes on the lead and copper rural revision uh process that we're going through right now uh we we have we we're actually two-thirds of the way through uh that the process of actually testing the service lines um we have uh I believe we've just started June 5th we're starting the third leg June 5th of the testing and so again we're basically two-thirds of the way through that process um and of course we do the water sample we do the water sampling kind of separate from that but right now the main focus is the actually the service line testing the service lines for lead and of course the the actually testing of the water where we get where we get homeowners to volunteer to basically take the tap samples for us uh that's ongoing and and will continue to be ongoing volunteer your house to be one of the tests I and it's already rigged up in my house and it's they came and put it in and they were gone in an hour or two in the right zone or something yeah well my neighborhood I'm eligible I'm sure

[3:43:29] gift card to Outback and everything oh my god well Shane again thank you truly the numbers are overwhelming and I know they're not numbers that quote have to be done in the year our next yearly budget but on the other hand the cost of doing these projects gets more expensive every year so the longer it takes us to address these issues the larger the dollar amount is going to be so we need to get as creative as we possibly can to do the thing that the citizens expect us to do first and foremost and that is infrastructure and that is from a Citizens perspective our number one priority is taking care of our streets and water so utilities so you've got a big you have broad shoulders and thank goodness you do because it's going to take it to carry this through and help us get done what the citizens want us to do as a priority thank you next up we will go through the police department's requests and the capital Improvement plan oh so Frank the first question is with these new um things that were passed in May does that mean you're on for police chief for one more year negative good afternoon mayor good afternoon Council you've touched on the police building or our wants for the police building but on our CIP we have two items um I'll be very brief and open it up for any discussion you may have after I'm done our police building as you know was built in 1963. over the past 60 years the department has grown in both personnel and the

[3:45:31] space for need need for space our department currently is divided into four buildings the main police building the annex and we have child crimes Detectives that are in a separate building and we have two training locations what makes that very difficult if we go south as you're where we have our graduation there anything classroom related is south of the city limits four miles anything we do gun range type or on hands we go north of the city limits 10 miles I mean you get a broad coverage of this very broad actually in the county um maintenance continue to maintenance we spent over 200 and something thousand dollars over the last several years mainly in HVAC so we are requesting a new police department I know there's been discussion about the City Annex for me I really believe it's this has been an ongoing conversation I think anyone who's walked through your police station knows that getting a new police station is pretty high on a priority list I think we need to get one done and I appreciate that I believe is August of 2016 when I walked in the office we had a discussion with the architect who had a proposal and plan for the City Annex and I believe at that time the figure was 42 million dollars to demolish the annex as it sits or 38 million dollars to remodel and that was in 2016. so we've had those discussions up until now um the other uh item on the CIP is the training academy which I briefly touched on um it's in need of major repairs and again if we do any type training in classroom we go south of the city limits anything North as far as Firearms we have to go or as far as firearm training we have to go north outside the city limits about 10 miles we've outgrown it you've been there during graduation and we're continually have to maintain and pour money in that facility as well I believe it was built in 1990 so we

[3:47:35] certainly looks like it was way before then that's correct that's correct anyway that's all I have I don't want to beat this to death so if anybody has any questions I'll entertain that well for me as I said I think we know the need for the police station I think we need to find a path forward for it I think that's got to be something we tackle and figure out the game plan for it I think there's been patients if you want to call it that maybe that's not the right adjective but we need a new facility and I think we've secured the buildings to make one happen now we've got to figure out the cost of making it happen and getting something moving forward but I believe strongly in the need for that questions we've heard you we got it and I like it simple and straightforward thank you next is fire department good morning Council mayor Patrick Brody fire chief I'll be actually pretty brief myself because a lot of these uh CPS are covered in my presentation later uh ambulance we purchased two ambulances a year and uh the prices have actually skyrocketed in the last year Shane can actually attest to the price of vehicles over 30 increase in a lot of areas and that's no exception for a for an ambulance or fire truck replacement so the next one is fire engine replacement and um we currently are coming up on engine 8 needing to be replaced it is 17 years old right now and I have an item coming back to Council on the six next week to replace that unit have the funding for it already secured ready for Council approval moving into the future we have

[3:49:37] two trucks that are approaching the 15-year Mark and they are fairly significant priced one of them is a rescue truck um currently sitting right now at 13 years and another one is Ladder one that's our 100 foot platform at Central and uh it's recommended at a 20-year replacement so rescue truck is coming up on a two-year needing to be replaced and the ladder truck about seven years the combined price for both of those units is about three million dollars and not to take away from the presentation but the current allocation that we've received for vehicle replacement is about 250 000 a year math it's going to take a long time to get three million dollars at 250 a year so we need to adjust that again that's in my presentation next item is in addition to the training center classroom we are busting at the seams at that facility again something else in my presentation later we've got a lot of really excited things going on in the training academy we are expanding and we have a pretty high need for an additional classroom so we can have our Paramedic program and a paramedic lab facility because we already own the property it would be it wouldn't be near as big of an expense if we were having to search for property or search for actual architectural plans and the the last one is for the future land for fire stations uh immediate need Fire Station Number Nine also discussed later in my presentation on the south sector of San Angelo long term probably about 10-year plan there's a need for a fire station on the east side of town as the city expands South and expands East we will need to provide coverage for that so that's it if y'all have any other questions for me any questions or comments I mean bye thank you very much I think that wraps up the capital Improvement plan discussion okay so then what we do is go into our

[3:51:42] top three strategic priority priorities and it says starting with Shane Kelton on infrastructure so I'm not so sure that Shane is um you want to address that one I think you've covered a lot already in terms of giving us the big picture overview which is good now you'll talk more about something yes ma'am we've we've gone through the CIP which a lot of this is the CIP but I'll let Patrick kind of go through uh some of this just kind of give you an update on some of the bigger stuff in where we are and what we're looking at and then I'll just funnel right into the to the water water side of it as well give you quick updates on some things and then we'll be gone again so foreign good afternoon um a couple years ago y'all Council included drainage in the top priorities with infrastructure so with that we have done a little bit of work and we have made some advancements within the drainage issues that the city of San Angelo faces um most notably if you go into the East Angelo draw along Bell Street as part of the Bell Street Improvement project we enhanced that crossing right there made it much more passable during rain events so that was number one of the year 2000 Master drainage plan so we got that one accomplished along with the Avenue P detention Basin that we spoke about earlier that is just doing phenomenal um in its results along Avenue P we've had a couple of rain events to test it and and I think it's performing absolutely great so um and currently in in progress as a college Hills drainage improvements we were graciously given the money to make those improvements along with that project and so those underground infrastructures and improvements in the

[3:53:45] roadway at the red Arroyo Crossings are are being performed right now are being put in so it's progress along that it's moving very very well really we're waiting on the manufacturers of the Box culverts is the only reason that we're taking a a little bit of time but getting that infrastructure in so I do want to make a quick note it's not on your screen here but an example of drainage improvements that are on the cusp as we continue our conversations here in just a little bit as an example is an in-house project that we did at the end of Foster Road improving that drainage we talked about it earlier councilman Hebert and I um and and my assistant director were out there yesterday just seeing the effects of that and that was a completely in-house project that had a tremendous effect on on a res on a neighborhood that was filled in the Gardens of that drainage issue so completely in-house the guys did a great job there but those are the type of improvements that we're going to discuss moving forward as some options that we want to take care of with some some additional resources that we're going to be asking you guys for so uh we did as well complete the update to the master drainage plan we got that one completely wrapped up and we re-ranked 36 problem areas within the city this was important so that we could start pulling down some of those grant opportunities um here recently with the region 9 Upper Colorado uh flood planning region recently started developing some grants and there's some some opportunities there but we needed this master drainage plan updated to identify those projects and and have them in a plan to apply for those grants so we are looking forward to doing that and and hopefully pulling down some of that money to make those improvements as you see there on the screen there is however 60 million dollars in deficiencies just in those top ten CIP problem areas so it's 60 million for the top 10 and some additional money in the in the additional 26 projects remaining there

[3:55:48] you tackled three major ones or are in the process of because certainly the Bell Street the Avenue P and college Hills major issues those were major issues and that's the reason those weren't necessarily hitting the list on on this current mdp Master drainage plan because we we did take care of those in our recent projects so moving on to the streets update um as you all well know 80 million dollars over the course of 10 years we just issued the fourth of our 5 16 million dollar allocation so we have one more to go in that in 2024 we'll see we'll see that issuance as an annual operating maintenance budget that we that Council gave us back in 2015 we have about three and a half million dollars for seal coating and preservation techniques that was in order to accomplish council's goal of sealcoating every street every eight years and 2023 is the final year of that eight year program and I'm very happy to say that we accomplished that goal by 2023 so I'm very proud and very thankful for you guys giving us the opportunity to make that happen by giving us the resources we needed to to do that so thank you um we also have an additional five hundred thousand dollars that was given to us at that time that we utilized for not only cracked ceiling ahead of that Sealcoat process but also doing a little bit more in puddle repair and small construction projects that we're able to do in-house so um we are limited on Manpower and issues so those guys worked really really hard to to make sure that they're prepping the streets and taking care of what they can do that doesn't constitute a major reconstruction or something that's beyond what are what we're allowed to do in-house right now so and then a couple years ago or last year actually Council y'all also gave us that .006 portion of the property tax rate to do

[3:57:52] some additional Street Maintenance projects that Nets us about 340 to 400 000 a year so we did not spend any of that money last year we're kind of banking it for uh to make a good bang for your buck project hopefully try to score some of that for a matching fund on a grant or something like that to maximize those dollars so right now we have about seven hundred and twelve thousand dollars at the anticipated end of year fund balance for this year we went over a whole bunch of these or Shane did earlier in the CIP project so I'm not going to overburden you with those again I'm again just Southwest Boulevard is still active and college Hills Boulevard is active for us coming we have Howard Street it's about to kick off we got the bids received on that they were a little higher than what we had budgeted but not as high as what we were necessarily anticipating in today's environment so we will be able to take care of Howard Street Jackson Street is coming up that will be starting this year as well and then Edmond Glenn on 29th Street is the next project that you're going to be seeing along with Christopher or chadburn street I'm sorry from the 7th Street all the way to 43rd and hopefully encompassing that s-curve if we can get textile coordination on that on that little piece of property there So when you say it's in design it's funded but it's still in design state so what what funded in InDesign means is we actually have construction dollars earmarked for those projects unfunded means we want it we we're working on design or it's or the design is complete but we just don't have the construction money necessarily right now to do it so it's sitting on the shelf waiting for those opportunities to present themselves so as we look at our our current funding sources just to give you all a real quick snapshot as y'all are looking at this and And discussing it um our street Rehabilitation money 80

[3:59:55] million dollars in bond funding is what we have that four million dollars in uh annual operating money as well as that property tax allocation of about four hundred thousand dollars a year I did want to note that y'all gave us a grant administrator position last year to the budget process and we have absolutely been utilizing that that position um and she's been phenomenal for us so far we did get a ss4a grant for five hundred thousand dollars that we're utilizing to uh to build an action plan that will let us apply for some construction dollars in in coming years but we had to have this action plan taken care of first and we are currently about to wrap up on June 5th the tasa or the set-aside grant applications are due so we're right tying up the loose ends on those and submitting those for those applications and those projects are those the 20 million dollars that's 20 million dollars in the 1.2 yes ma'am and then we also have about 11 grants that are kind of on our high priority lists that we're really watching pretty hard for the no foes to come out the notice of funding opportunities and those are you know dedicated toward our infrastructure drainage Sunset lake is on one of those that we're watching to try to find some money to do that so and then 23 more just general grants on our list that seem like they would have they would be applicable to different projects that we would have coming in and then also last year we found I think we kind of finalized a discussion about the street use fee and got some direction from you guys on that so that's on the on the horizon as well potentially wondering where the street used thank you all right we will move into the water utility update uh I love this picture that Brian was able to come up with on this this is uh the

[4:01:59] overhead of the two nuclear Wells being constructed is what this is so uh this has been a very neat process and to watch watch these two nuclear wheels go together yeah Tom Thompson thought it was Thunderdome [Laughter] there you go yeah uh Ben this has been a great project so uh and great to watch uh from a uh Public Works stand up 100 feet yeah it's it's amazing it's yeah it's amazing project so uh as we're going on just kind of give you all a brief update of where we are from current water supplies uh as of May 1 uh oh IV and the Hickory 25 months uh unfortunately OC Fisher um it only has a day of what one day of water in it so that doesn't count or calculate and then our other sources uh twin views Lake nasworthy uh combined with the Hickory of 13 months give us a total of 38 months of water currently our conservation measures don't kick in until 20 the 24 months hopefully with the rains we've been getting uh that will alleviate some of this and it'll extend extend this 38 month period out so keeping our fingers crossed there uh average daily usage we can continue to see a upward Trend in this I saw a little bit of um last year I'm not sure if we just gave up on some of our yards and things like that in conservation mode but again we did uh in 21 but here in 22 we are seeing usage uh increase again those 22-23 we don't have the final numbers yet on that so we're still working through that um we can look at some trends moving forward if you'd like come here uh water use uh just kind of let everybody know where where we use the most of our water the majority of our water is residential uh 12 commercials

[4:04:02] 16 institutional and three percent Industrial a quick update on Hickory was talking about water supply this is uh where we're adding an additional five Wells out at the actually at the wellfield itself we're moving very well with this project we they are working on the last well drilling the last well as we speak uh they're about halfway through that process they should be through uh Drilling and then the drilling should be completed hopefully within the next 30 days and we will the drilling portion of the contract contract one hopefully will be finalized complete and everything sent to the state and finalized mid-july that's our time frame on contract one contract two with plw Waterworks uh we'll be tying in all of the new facilities uh out at the well field tying all those into the pump station increasing the pump capacity at the pump station as well as uh rehab rehabilitating some of the existing Wells there and adding some backup generators to the project they're also part of this again just let everybody know the goal of this is to get us from the 8 million gallons per day to 12 million gallons per day capacity for water off of this and then of course part of this also is the update to the um to the clear Wells the two new clear Wells there that we're building at the plant and also the Hickory treatment plant the port of that for the upgrades in the actual treatment building itself for the Hickory projects moving along well total overall construction probably roughly 60 to 70 percent complete I put 60 percent on there just because that's about two weeks ago when I was going through all this that's about where about what we were looking at guys are making great Headway on this project it's moving along well Concho River Water Project we went over this a little bit earlier so I'm not

[4:06:06] going to dwell on it but one we we have received the discharge permit and currently working through the bed and Banks permit um and we'll be again we saw the we saw the the numbers for what some of the improvements were going to be on this the cost will be for this project and the going to the CIP so we're just looking at that so other part of this is from a water supply perspective is West Texas water partnership currently on that working through the city managers of the three cities are working together to start start working through the next phase which which will be the actual production phase of this to to try to yeah last time we met Teresa other well where we are right now so the city manager of Midland retired a couple weeks back so we have the new interim in the position at this point uh city manager of Abilene myself will be scheduling to actually go and visit in Midland next week to have some some discussions uh and have a better understanding of where they are it's been a challenge mayor I mean as far as trying to move forward with the the project I know that Theresa's worked on the preliminary agreement that the city managers are reviewing and going through at this point to see if there's any changes that need to be made prior to the city manager of Midland leaving he had reviewed the contract but really didn't have anything solid from them saying hey we agree with this yeah not yet no no it won't be signed until actually everyone's in agreement and we take it back to the council members but those details still need that to be worked it's only had to be worked through but um again we are hopeful that we can pull everybody together by next week and have a sit down in Midland to go over that agreement and see if there's any any qualms or any changes that need to happen on it unfortunately all signed at one point there was a signature from all three

[4:08:08] cities um for the water itself yes ma'am so uh the city of San Angelo would be receiving the 5 000 acre feet of water from from the agreement itself but we do need to work out the details as far as uh moving forward uh the the line uh the starting the actual project from Fort Stockton Holdings I mean from Fort Stockton so again a lot of detail it still needs to be worked out mayor um I'd rather not say much more after until after we meet with the city managers have a chance to meet with Theresa Teresa is a trusted attorney working on the on the project and I think all the city managers agreed that we're good with her working out the preliminary parts of it and then we'll work out the details uh to get that finalized and said to the city council members all right moving along just wanted to we touched we touched on this uh a while ago on the CIP but just to kind of give Council an update on the sewer project again it did come in uh both both contracts came in with McKees construction doing the pipeline Austin engineering doing the lift station both contracts came in at 35.9 million which was a whole lot better in the 50.4 that we were expecting so uh we were very glad to see that again we should hopefully begin this project in the next 60 days or less if we can get by with it and hopefully again it's a 24 month project uh just give you a quick update on the customer service inspections as we're looking for any any cross-contamination issues out there again not going to read all these off but you can see that the guys the the four guys that we have assigned to this task have been very we approved three csis uh three csis in the supervisor and all of them are certified so all all of them are certified um so not only the three inspectors that are out there on the front lines every day but also

[4:10:10] um well in a uh that their supervisor as well as last and so he can go out in the field and and create and do these inspections as well so um but again these guys have been really busy uh again we've gone through the majority of these already um uh if there's any questions on those some of these are in conjunction with the street uh Recon projects uh of course with some of the other ones as far as the uh shallow Wastewater improvements another one that we didn't mention a while ago in the CIP because it's not necessarily A CIP it's the water hydraulic model that we're working with with our consultant to get the new the new model out which will help us kind of determine where the water flows and how everything is going through our distribution system and also help us as we start looking into our needs in that northeaster town that we talked about earlier with elevated storage tank I think all the rest of those we already covered and then I wanted to bring up rates and fees as we look into the future now I'm going to preface this uh right here it's saying that I'm not asking for any increases in rates or fees this year or in this budget cycle so but again as we're looking out into the future I think um you know we've talked about this and the mayor has talked about it you know trying to be proactive and look at what's going on out in the future and what we need to do as we move forward and I've kind of broken this up into three different uh three different phases and and uh kind of kind of outlay what my thoughts are and and get y'all's feedback on it again but as we look at uh look at some things we have the storm water fee from the drainage side of things now storm water and drainage are two different things in our minds in public works uh what we think about when we talk about the existing stormwater fee that we have now is the O M that we do that is uh to cover the quality component that was State mandated or federally and state mandated uh component of it back in 2010

[4:12:14] and so and that fee has not since its Inception has not been increased we've been uh it's been the exact same rate and so that's something with especially with the inflation rates that we've seen recently something that we cannot sustain a whole lot longer without seeing some kind of increase on that o m side of it on the on the quality component side of it as well um so we are going to have to we are going to have to start talking about a fee increase on that side as well but what I wanted to bring up today is the drainage as you know we've we've talked about some of the other aspects of of the of our Master drainage plan that we created Patrick talked about the region nine flood Planning Group uh and and some of those opportunities and and with this as we are creating the the region flood plan through the Texas water development board uh a lot of our Master drainage plans since it was a brand new master drainage plan we've been able to incorporate a lot of those projects into the region plan and by doing so that allows us all those projects that were incorporated into the regional plan to be available eligible for Texas water development board funding whether that's low interest loans uh grant opportunities all of those things that makes us eligible for that uh what one of the bad things is is that currently there's no designated funding source to deal with the drainage portion of things the flooding that we're seeing out there there's not any designated funding for that that's a much designated raining going on either so we we have been a little shy on that for the last year yes ma'am so uh and then there's kind of as we're looking at this and this has kind of been brought up recently uh but since this since the Inception of our plan or the storm water ordinance in 2010 a lot of the residential areas around town especially on these some of the outlying areas that we're seeing have been developed in the last five to six seven years uh were already planted prior to our stormwater ordinance plans going into going into effect and so now

[4:14:19] we're starting to see now that these pre-platted areas are starting have filling up and they're being completed and and built out we're looking at developers and home builders looking into new areas of town or new areas to develop in Platte and so and as they do those part of the requirements is to for stormwater detention so they're retaining the water the extra water that they're creating on that property for so it doesn't run off and create issues Downstream but with that comes uh the long let me ask you a question so so when you talk about the storm water situation and it was being created in 2010 that we had to deal with it does it not allow you on already designed plats to be able to go back in and ask for a revision of that plot based off of the 2010 mandated storm water drainage no man we were not we were not allowed to go back in and force somebody that already had a plant in place to to replant for drainage but one of the things that we're moving moving forward into the future and one of the the a lot well quite a few of the developers have brought to the city's attention is that as they're having to you know they're we have not because we did not have any drainage funding available and of course it really hasn't been a big issue up until now because some of these older loss they didn't have to conform to those and so we weren't seeing a lot of detention basins being built in some of these larger uh development areas but as these new new areas come on their developers are being required to build these detention basins well the the long-term maintenance and upkeep of these detention basins is becoming an issue one you know the developer once they once they build out and they get through you know they're kind of interest in that development is gone and so there's not necessarily an interest

[4:16:22] for them to maintain that pond for eternity uh basically and so and then the other option is create an HOA well HOAs probably in all all development areas is probably not one of those things it's a a desirable thing to have and especially quite a few of those developments and so they have come to the city looking for the the city um basically if what can we do to help out for long-term care maintenance of these facilities and so that's kind of been an issue in one we currently do not have the funding or the Staffing to be able to start taking on detention-based enough for detention basing after detention Basin for maintenance we I mean we have taken two or three detention basins that back up to basically the red arroyer or something like that where it is uh where it we believe that from the city standpoint it's critical for us to be able to own and maintain those structures because of the impact that they could have Downstream and so we want to make sure that those specific ones stay intact but there's others that are in town that aren't so impactful that we have not taken on the responsibility of maintenance on it or accepted those into the City and so developers are being trying to figure out long term what to do and how to what they can do basically or how they're going to deal with maintenance long term on these uh and 22. it is and we believe and we believe long term that uh we we will probably see some of those those basins basically four are those detention basins actually forfeited or whatever and we're going to have to take on take them on anyway but as we kind of look through um and make a long story short as we're going through and we start talking about public we're talking about rates and fees we start talking about water rates uh in the you know our long-term water

[4:18:24] needs and development and to continue though progressing those Concho River Project all those things the skyrocketing chemical costs that has chemicals or chemicals are eating us up I mean we're we've we've seen chlorine triple in price we've um we just got bids back for polymer bids back that y'all are going to see in on the next uh next council meeting um I think that are in the next council meeting from area and so uh you know we're going to bring those and you know a contract you know a new contract for those and and we already know that they said they're going to go up again in April the costs are going to go up again in April so they're already telling us that that you know our pricing is not going to be good six months from now and so people are taking advantage of the situation yeah earlier or a year from now or whatever yeah or a year from now we already know that you know our week we aren't going to to meet these prices again so and then another thing that we have looking that we're going to have looking especially on the water side is the pfos and emerging contaminants issues that we're going to be dealing with the EPA is set the limit at 0.4 parts per trillion on pfos which is the the minimal detectable limit for pfos so basically if you've got the fire right time yeah that fire retardant styrofoams those type things the forever chemicals and you know by setting that limit basically at the detectable limit means at some point in time we will have to be treating for that well I mean the only way to treat for that you know is through an RO system or some kind of membrane system and so the massive you know it's going to take a lot of money you know in the future to deal with those making upgrades to the water treatment plant so just things that we have to keep in mind as we're looking forward same thing with sewer rates as we're looking forward so again I'm not asking for right now I'm not asking for this but what I would like to do is basically step back and and do a basically another water rate study that we did a few years ago except one I want to not only take take a look at the

[4:20:26] water rates and the sewer rates and kind of take that long-term cost and look at that but also want to add drainage in there as well start looking at these drainage projects as we're looking at this uh for the rate studying again because the last thing I want to do is is have an emergency situation or have something come up sneak up on us that we're not prepared for and then all of a sudden we're trying to we have to have a rate increase right now and it's a big one or it's a substancy one let's take a longer look at Approach at this and and look at this over time to see if we can ease into ease into these things and and try to work work them through and so by doing a rate study we can do that to where we can look at these projects and kind of time them out over time to see what that looks like and then look at look at making rate changes very gradually over time to accommodate these these needs as we as we're looking at it over time but again that would take a great study to do that but again I believe that us looking at that sooner rather than later will benefit us as we look at some of these issues that we have coming up again we know that the uh one of the biggest things that is really becoming a Hot Topic is the pfos emerging contaminants issues and so I think us looking at those now we know the Concho River Project is going to be fast approaching as we go through the permitting as we kind of ease into this next phase of the permitting phase with the bed and Banks these things are going to start coming up and we're going to need to move on them sooner rather than later but again I don't want us to come up a year from now or 20 24 months from now and go oh my gosh I need you know a 10 or 15 increase today to to cover these costs I'd rather us take a longer term look at this and ease into those ease into those numbers versus a big hit all at once additionally it's good to raise a red flag and I think that's what you're

[4:22:28] doing right now because I don't think you're saying we need to do it for this year's budget we all need to do is to look at it as you say long term and look what the rates and fees are you know we hear constantly from the citizens that we have the highest cost of water of any seed they've ever lived in and perhaps we do because of where we live and and what the cost of acquiring the water we need to run our city today and then for in the future so no one denies that the Investments we're making whatever whatever cost they are are not needed they're needed for the long-term viability in the economy of San Angelo Texas with that said we also have to be sensitive towards the citizens um and and what we can possibly do to change the rates and still understand how that converts to govern our needs and it's got a we I get it we got to look at it thanks for raising the red flag and we'll start taking a look at it in a future projection mayor yes Karen clear how how what the burden is on your Department I'm curious if you feel like you have the employees in place to accomplish all the things on your to-do list yes ma'am there's there's days there's days I do and days I don't uh you know and and I think we're really starting to see it it's probably on the the in the field the guys in the field are probably um or probably where we're starting to see the majority of the stress is out the guys in the field um again we're we're the city's growing and and we're and we're with the Aged infrastructure and everything else the need keeps keeps growing and so I think uh the boots on the ground is probably where we're seeing some of the gap of course you know we do have

[4:24:30] we have issues up in up in the higher levels as well too uh maintaining those but uh um one of the reasons when they talk about developing plans such as this 2009 plan the city sprawl because the more sprawl there is the greater pressure on the system not only on an infrastructure but on people as well and yet we still haven't taken care of and and all of the needs and the core of the city in terms of infrastructure and yet we're adding more and more and more and more and more which adds more and more and more it does and so you know the the question becomes strategically how we make sure that quote infill projects continue to happen as a as a strategic plan so that it doesn't keep Whedon thinning out what we have and and increasing the expense not necessarily the first year the second year or the third year but down the road the cost of maintaining an infrastructure quadruples based off of sprawl and that's really and like I said I think that's where we are we are starting to suffer and see see some of the worst needs is in the is in the you know the rank and file the boots on the ground folks the guys that are out in the field doing the doing the work you know we are starting to really see see that um see the need there I mean we are and a lot of it is pro we're moving out we're growing we're building more streets we're putting in more water lines we're putting in more certain lines we're seeing more water breaks um and so um more sewer stoppages I mean it the list goes on and on and so um but the guy the guys in the field are where we could really use some help yes ma'am Karen I do want to mention that uh so at the end of this month uh City staff directors also submit uh request for ftes uh and they have to justify those requests as far as why those positions are needed we do a thorough review of that for that justification

[4:26:32] and determine moving forward when we come to you for the budget to say hey we do need these after these are now we're fine but we are we do a very good study of that to determine what those those look like a conversation for another time got it will be an ongoing conversation continue uh that's that's it I was just basically I just wanted to see if Council wanted to entertain a water rate study as we're moving into the future I mean it's a process it's it's not something that happens overnight and this is a year-long process uh even could be plus year long as as we look at this and look at look at those three areas specifically uh we have you know we have put a you know request for qualifications go through the whole process all of that so as we do that it is a longer process something that takes a while but again um I'd like to get moving on this sooner rather than later so as these things start coming about that we're not caught off guard and we're not having to do anything that is here's what how I would answer that sooner versus later so I would say that sooner versus later we need to move forward and look at something like that but I would also say that as this is the first day of our hearing about needs of various departments and issues infrastructure is a key issue and it ought to be a priority for us but if we wouldn't have to answer you today and through the budget process we can determine the biggest priorities that we have in terms of focusing on the citizens biggest issue and that is our infrastructure needs so I think it ought to be on our list of things to talk further about and decide priorities in terms of those things but I don't think we're prepared to answer today based off of this being the first five hours of the budget process yes well I'm I'll take it I'll take the opposite approach mayor I'm I'm ready for them to start the process on a rate

[4:28:34] study it's it's going to be a year before before we get there so my answer to the question to your question Shane is different than the Mayors yes I would like to see you undertake the uh begin the process to go through that study one of my biggest takeaways from today I'll describe it with one word future planning for the future to me that's what I'm hearing repeatedly in what the staff has presented to us is we need to do a better job in planning for the future and to me this is planning for the future so I answered the question yes the rest of the council can speak for themselves I think we have several issues that Council will have to address and as I say I don't think this is about saying no to this it's about hearing all of their requests I mean I think there was one a couple slides back in terms of the street use fee that has been brought up you know there are several of those issues that I think we owe you answers to but I think we got to get through the budget process and that doesn't mean within the next month we won't be able to say yes or no but I think what we have to do is go through all of these issues and at the end of the budget cycle we can say move forward on this but there's lots of requests here and the future is all a part of it yes and this is this is not a this is not a I mean it there there will be dollars attached to this but again they're not they're not these are not large number dollars and so these These funds are available in the in the utility uh to to accommodate this study that there those those dollars are already available for this but again I don't need an answer today I'm just raising in the question let y'all think about it and again as we're moving forward through the budget process again working through and again Food For Thought So show you answers and we know we and I think the ask is not unreasonable I just say that today let's hear everybody let's talk through everything

[4:30:37] that's out there and I think we come back with you know as a council some objectives and priorities and I think this is certainly going to be one of the we got to be looking at it water is one of the most important parts of the economy into the future of this city and to Tommy's one word future it's future thinking mayor uh I do want to point out something if you didn't notice as Shane was talking um where he was shy about talking about exactly what we need money-wise because we do take very seriously being as conservative as possibly and we understand the citizens we definitely get that but we also understand the business aspect of it and he he got around to asking for what that need is and that need is there and and you're absolutely right right now we don't have the numbers just yet to justify any real commitment at this point but we will hear in the next month and a half uh and will it be able to have those conversations but we just wanted to make sure that y'all were open to that and obviously y'all are I mean and we're glad that you are and uh you want the red flag absolutely absolutely there's no question and is the time to do it yep and there'd be a couple of them race today so again thank you for for that presentation Shane go Aaron go ahead and come on and take a seat buddy you know you're going to get there just go up front settle down today thank you all right so this this first slide really just kind of reminds you all what's what all is included in our department of course building permits and inspections uh GIS which does the computer mapping for the city uh development service which

[4:32:41] basically oversees the development review process and kind of coordinates the whole department and then planning and I just wanted to mention you guys see us in terms of development review UCS bring zoning cases and a lot of those sorts of things what you don't see as frequently is the future planning but that is definitely a role of our department and we do and can help tie in a lot of the things that you've already been talking about um you know if you look at our comprehensive plan it it has identified needs for the fire station locations for example and so again because of sprawl exactly and so our plans not only the plans that we have but the implementation steps that we've been taking over the years to help Implement that plan has has helped guide a lot of the decisions over those last few years so I wanted to talk about I know we've talked a little bit here about the comprehensive plan why do we do that in the first place one as the mayor mentioned is developing that Community Vision that involves all the citizens coming together and telling us where do we want to be in the future for our city and one of the things we do a little bit differently than some of the other departments is look look out farther we look 10 20 30 years out to make sure that the decisions we're making today help us get to that future community that we want to be it also helps protect property rights I know we often get Flack for our rules and regulations telling people what they can do but we can't forget that that's helping protect their neighbors from what they might do on their property also quality of life for Citizens that's kind of a self-explanatory one and then we've talked a lot today about fiscal issues and part of the purpose of those plans is to ensure fiscal responsibility I'll just give you one example we we recently brought you all um a review of the street standards and as part of that we did an analysis we just picked a neighborhood the Bluffs and we did analysis on those streets and if if

[4:34:45] those streets had been built to the revised Street standards that would have saved the developer between two and a half and three and a half million dollars on the cost of streets just for the construction of streets that comes out to between three and four thousand dollars per lot within that subdivision and that would be applicable throughout the community for at least for those areas that are built to our current Street standard or at least the street standard at that time we also looked at what does that mean for the Sealcoat project and just for the Bluffs having those Narrow Street standards would have saved about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars every time we Sealcoat those streets and again you multiply that by every neighborhood in the city just a simple decision of how wide we build new streets in the community has a long-term fiscal impact and and it's not just streets it's all of the decisions we make in terms imagine if way back when when we made the determination to keep those streets wider how much it would have saved its way back then absolutely and I mean that's part of that with that part of the thing here is it's it's going to be difficult to go back and narrow those streets in those existing neighborhoods but we can start now and move forward in new development ensuring that those new developments are happening in a way that at least we are thoughtful about the fiscal impact of those developments to your point about sprawl uh if you know the and I don't mean that negative when I say the word sprawl but the larger the footprint the more expensive the maintenance and and cost of infrastructure is so sprawl is not a negative it's just a reality and it's something we have to deal with right but it can make an impact on ural's decisions as an example if a new development is on say half acre or one acre lots versus standard single-family Lots the cost for building streets maintaining streets water lines sewer lines the length of that for each lot is more and so it cost much more to maintain in a neighborhood with one acre

[4:36:47] lots than it does neighborhood of a typical single-family neighborhood of six to eight thousand square foot Lots so um again when you approve a large lot development versus a small lot development you're making fiscal decisions whether you know it or not and yet the further out we tend to go the more the desire for one acre lots are so that also in some cases is part of the Strategic plan from a development perspective is absolutely and if if you all think it's worth that extra cost of one acre lots then that's that's a policy decision that you all have to make I'm saying that's a that's a developer's perspective we don't determine how many one acre lots of of a new plot is going to be I mean a guy who buys that land determines what kind of a project he wants out there that's not our decision but you're telling us what happens when that happens right but you do have decisions to make in terms of what infrastructure you require or how those costs are passed on so that if a developer chooses to develop in a way that's more expensive for the taxpayers that perhaps some of that cost is borne by them rather than the taxpayers um do your comprehensive plan too John if if I hear what you're saying to have a comprehensive plan that would speak to that very thing size Lots Etc as the town continues to grow then we are making fiscal decisions whether we realize we're making fiscal decisions yeah so you know maybe what we need to do is update our comprehensive plan I'm going to shift gears and we'll come back to that I've got a slide on that a little bit later on this is our development review process every year we update you on the the kind of how we're doing in terms of development review I'm not going to read through all of these I think you've seen them before because this is publicly so this this is our goals that were established I think back

[4:38:49] in 2014 2015 uh reducing review times providing good information to applicants uh good customer service ensuring that our ordinances and processes are consistent with the goals identified in the comprehensive plan and then ensuring the consistency in the development review process and back to the comprehensive plan I will mention I know um sometimes you know we talk about you know we pay Consultants to adopt a plan and then it goes on a shelf I'll say for for our part that's not the case we we've got a whole list of those implementation items from that 2003 plan and the 2000 I mean it's not it's not key plan but it is an updated plan to the comprehensive plan even though the comprehensive plan specifically designates key areas of the city cultural historic medical whatever right so the big picture is that and then you dive into those sections exactly and so even since the 2009 plan a list of those action items that are recommended in the plan have been done over the last 15 20 years to help implement the recommendations of that plan but again we're getting towards the end of what that plan recommended and it's probably time to take a fresh look at what how we should move forward with that let me ask you a question on that then okay so if it looks on the vision plan summary from this 2009 it reads us following goal one increase the permanent residential population of downtown San Angelo goal to improve The Pedestrian experience throughout downtown three promote the Arts throughout downtown particularly from local artists goal four enhance the San Angelo's cultural identity throughout the region goal five increase accessibility of public open space in downtown and its role within the city goal six eliminate the negative effects of surface parking

[4:40:51] in the downtown core core 7 increased the role of alternative modes of transportation goal eight increased connectivity between downtown and surrounding neighborhoods then we go into neighborhoods neighborhoods promote vibrant and viable neighborhoods and there's lots of items underneath each of these so there's like eight or nine suggested things to incorporate into that improved neighborhood connectivity with and between neighborhoods goal three improve relationship between adjacent commercial and residential land use adjacencies go for grow grow new neighborhoods in San Angelo in a reliable sustainable manner go five promote neighborhood organization and Outreach goal six improved access to open space for all residents neighborhood centers goal one contract retail commercial corridors into a series of identifiable nodes or centers at Key intersections goal to reorganize parking strategies go through three improved pedestrian access to commercial neighborhood centers and then transition areas Revitalize age commercial corridors Bland and go to and blend intensive commercial areas into neighborhoods seamlessly I mean I these things go on and I think they're so important as we talk through all of this because institutional and the public improve their physical relationship between the public institutions and the adjacent context I mean there's a whole series of these things and they have action steps and specific things underneath them and I wonder if we went through these individually and checked off what we have or haven't done started or not started incorporated or not Incorporated in it to how we would grade ourselves I think that's a good point I will point out that that a number of those things have been addressed over the years we've got the downtown plan we did a lake nasworthy plan we updated the

[4:42:54] thoroughfare plan we adopted a bike plan which is now in the process of being updated we adopted the sidewalk ordinance as I mentioned earlier we proposed some streets with standards um we've adopted multiple zoning we make changes to the zoning ordinance two or three times every year we you mentioned the parking we adopted new parking standards a couple of years ago that made it more friendly for developers to with reduced parking so I think I feel confident that if we went down that list we've we've done a number of those things but clearly there's more more work well I think you know I think the issue is is using this is because it's a really good document and it really supplements the 2003 comprehensive plan and just as I think on an annual basis it's important for us to review this Vision plan and grade ourselves number one but then number two realistically decide what can or cannot be addressed on a timely Five-Year Plan ten-year plan whatever because the nature of comprehensive plans are as they are comprehensive long-term big term and then you narrow it down into specific action plans and I think the original comprehensive plan that was done is a very good plan in 2003 I think it addressed a lot of issues but we can't leave it at that so we've got to make sure we've really studied this 2009 Vision plan and make sure that we are particularly where we feel it was good information we follow those action steps and see if it can't guide us to ensure that we have the quality of life and the future that we want to see for this city and its citizens I think it's very important and the things you've already brought up quickly and there's more that you've done and accomplished but those were quickly at the top of your mind is I read through this but I think it's a it's a great study in what we should be doing

[4:44:58] and again we'll come back to that in a few slides but um these are just some of the improvements we've made to the development review process we standardized our submittal requirements and we simplified some things for the applicants increased use of checklists so that we're ensuring that they're providing what we need but that they know what we need up front as well we revised all of our handouts to make them more user-friendly based on input we'd received from applicants we have the new permit tracking and plan review software that helps us make that process quicker and we've just implemented a development solution team that's basically similar to our development review committees but after a project is already in the process and they've come across some issue or other that we can put together a team real quick to help resolve those issues that sounds like a great plan um as I mentioned we've got our digital plan review process where folks can upload their projects directly to us it can be sent out to all the reviewers immediately in the old days with paper projects you know those were passed around and review took longer this is just a listing of how many projects have gone through that process just recently and Fire Prevention will begin using this for their plan reviews in in the coming years as well so this is this is our chart that just basically shows how we've been doing and those reducing the timelines and as you can see we've we pretty consistently um we've kept these numbers pretty low you may recall from before 2017 those numbers were up to 15 to 18 days on average times for review so we've got those down you will notice that last year was a little higher than normal it's still well within our 21 days for our goal for reviewing projects but it

[4:47:02] increased slightly that's partly because of the number of projects but also some short staffing not only in our department but also Fire Marshal's office and Engineering who also reviewer projects but double the nine of days from one year to the next yeah we had nice number of days in a set a five-year window yeah some of that had to do with some big projects for example Shannon is really one project but it's it's the equivalent of multiple uh projects I will note that one of the things that's that's not shown here when we talk about an average that means the average project is 12 days some are much quicker but some take longer and I know many of you all have heard from some of the folks that that for whom it's taken longer I just want to note that those tend to be the rare ones um that you all end up hearing about because we process hundreds of permits and plans and projects every week and it's only the handful that take longer than our normal processes but again those are the ones that end up making your phone ring and we try to work those as best we can um and this is a similar look at residential plans for example our goal is for a three-day review we're at about 4.8 days or just under five days for reviewing those um again I think we're pretty confident that we're close to where we want to be part of that is just the volume uh that we've seen although as you'll see in a minute that volume is is decreasing a little bit similarly with planning projects that our our goal to meet the state law is a 30-day review we've got that under a week and so we're I'm pretty happy about that and similarly with engineering projects reviews they're well within the 21 days that they that which is our goal for those reviews and it's it's really not on this slide but I'll point out

[4:49:05] that as we look to other cities there was some testimony in the state legislature about some bills that would require reduced review times for things like building permits and the complaints that were in the testimony before the legislature were talking about you know it should take weeks instead of months well we're already at weeks and our goal is to do it in a number of days and so compared to many of the cities around the state our processes are much quicker many of them of them I mentioned earlier the consultations those are where we meet with developers in a pre-development meeting before they even come in for an application you can see that the number of those have increased have we as we've encouraged uh projects and applicants to do that what we find is folks who come in and meet with us before their project have a much smoother process than folks who just come in and drop off an application because we are able to sit down with them and help set them through that process and answer some of their questions I think some of the biggest complaints people have about this is that when they have set up a meeting for example that all of the persons that need to be there are not there and so they don't get the answers that they need so there's not a sometimes the ability to get everybody from our planning Side Fire Marshal's side at that meeting so then the next time they meet different officials are there they weren't the same officials from the last meeting so there's contradiction contradictions between what was said in the first meeting versus what said in the second meeting and I think that's where the biggest complaints come from is the inconsistency when there's been more than one meeting or missing members of our team at that table and that's something we're we're focusing on right now is to ensure that if if the main decision maker is not there at the table uh that that

[4:51:08] information gets back to them and we get them that's one of the things our development services staff do is reach out to those other departments to get those answers and in fact for the development review committees we take notes that are sent to the applicant um after the meeting to identify here's all the things that we told you here are the outstanding questions that we still need to resolve and that's partly to help address that concern of consistency so that we know what we told them the first meeting and so that we're not telling them something different when they leave that first meeting do they have a written document that describes what was just said and done because that's the other thing because it's not at the meeting but it comes to them after the fact because they because they then think that what again I I'm saying words for other people so I might not get it right but that there's inconsistencies from one meeting to the next and primarily because some of the individuals that needed to be there weren't there but then when those individuals are there there's contradictions between what was said in the first meeting and the second meeting and it's very confusing to people because it's not what they do um I I I guess the the thing I would say about that is similar to the comment I made a minute ago I don't think that's the uh generally the situation with most of the meetings like that to be sure that's probably happened uh in the past um I would not call it a systemic issue that every time somebody comes in they get told something different later no I'm I don't think it is systemic but I do think that's something we are actively trying to reduce the number of or the frequency of that um this is just one example of an email we've received a few of these over the last six months but um again I know you guys get the the negative phone calls you don't necessarily always get the positive ones but this is from a an architect on a project uh basically commenting on the professionalism of our staff uh

[4:53:10] returning phone calls very quickly um and so just wanted to share this one example of a consultant for on a project that was very pleased with our process especially when compared to other cities where they work saying that our process was was better basically than than those other cities where they were and they wish that of those other cities had our process so um we like to hear these kinds of compliments to our staff so here's just a quick overview of the development activity in the community these are the number of multi-family uh developments that we've had you can see Apartments go up and down some years we don't have any um this past year this current year we've had 36 we're seeing more duplexes you know you can see in 2019 and 20 we saw a lot of them this year we've only seen eight so far but we've gotten more interest in that you may recall from the housing study that was done one of the pieces that the housing study identified as missing is what what planners call the missing middle we get a lot of single-family homes we get a lot of large 200 unit apartment complexes we don't get those middle range of duplexes fourplexes but there's a big market demand for those and there's a lot of reasons why those aren't being built but we're starting to see more interest in town homes duplexes and those kinds of apartments project behind Jim bass Ford and all that is on that in those apartments most likely yeah they're um income-based apartments I think that's those and we do have some more that don't show up in these numbers that we know are coming uh as well their second project is the one out there by Sam's by Kohl's by the Boulevard Apartments right yeah um and these are just the number of

[4:55:12] single-family homes you can see we had a big uh increase there in 2020 over 700 single-family homes but we're typically pretty consistent at between 250 and 350 homes per year you can see this year we've had 78 which if if that Trend continued puts us on track for 199 for the year that's a little low but with the economy the way it is and interest rates that's not unexpected they said it's picking up again so just lastly here is a kind of an overview of some of the recent updates and what we've got in progress I mentioned the downtown historic district that was just approved recently and you all approved the building codes some of the things that we've got in process you all had that joint meeting with the Planning Commission and one of the things you talked about was accessory dwelling units um we promised that we would come back with some an alternative proposal on that we've been waiting because there's some bills in the legislature one of which just got voted down this this week two two votes that's right almost passed so we didn't want to bring something that would just immediately be overruled by the changes in state law but that should be coming pretty soon uh as as was mentioned earlier we were working on a Parkland dedication ordinance that will bring uh to you all sometime in the near future uh I think we've already discussed this with you all but a Sound Ordinance we talked about a sign ordinance committee got a number of names from from many of you so we've established that committee and we'll start meeting with them soon as you may recall the main reason we're looking at the sign ordinance is some recent Supreme Court decisions that make necessary changes needed for that sign ordinance and so we'll we'll reviewing that including some folks from some sign companies and other citizens on that committee we're looking at a landscape ordinance over the last few years we've done some research we had a preliminary draft a couple of years ago that's sort of just been waiting for the right time

[4:57:13] to uh to bring that forward and similarly I mentioned the bicycle plan um we've got an update we've been working on a committee with the mpo public works planning as well as citizens from the bicycling community that have been on this committee looking at the bike plan and we're very close to having an update to that that we'll be able to bring forward for adoption you know one of the things that came up last time when we were talking about the bicycle plan were those streets in which we created a bicycle lane but were streets where the bicycle lane was but people parked in front of their house which would be on the bicycle lane so we got to make sure if we adopt a bicycle plan that we don't create bicycle plans that take away parking in front of the house with that bicycle lane because that's not going to work and that's something we've looked at in fact you all adopted an ordinance change a couple years ago that addressed that but it it actually doesn't go into effect until we've adopted the new bicycle plan and so as we look at whereabout facilities should go that's definitely something that that committee has looked at in addressing that particular issue we've got some other minor Ordnance cleanups short-term rentals um a lot of those that have been replied for recently yeah we've seen a lot of them and so one of the things that we're looking at is possibly an administrative process where staff could approve those if there's no neighbor opposition and if there's no been no complaints right now you not only have to get approval from the Planning Commission for a short-term rental you have to renew it every either one or two years and we also want to look at renewals being administrative by staff unless there have been complaints or other issues and that will help make that process smoother but also not interfering with the ability of neighbors to complain so if there is a

[4:59:16] neighbor complaint it would still have to go through a public process does the neighbor know that a home is being submitted for a short-term rental similar to a zoning case we notify all the properties within 200 feet that a short-term rental is being proposed for that location how does that differ from Airbnb there's no short-term rental is an Airbnb evrbo any of those and in fact finance department has recently or is actually in the middle of an audit finding short-term rentals that may be out there uh you know advertised on Airbnb that aren't registered with the city aren't paying hotel tax and so as part of that we're coordinating with them and identifying short-term rentals that um are operating but haven't gotten their proper approvals that's one of the reasons we've seen an uptick in those applications is because some of those folks have started getting those letters saying hey you need to register with the city and so many of them are coming in to do that we also want to look at building setbacks and lot coverage we have some rules that uh we often get home builders developers having issues with the building setbacks and as we look and compare with the trends around the country we think ours may our ordinances may be a little stricter than they need to be and so we want to look at addressing that the other bill that I think was I'm not sure the status of it Bill 1787 maybe that was of concern relative to building and neighborhoods specifically I'll read it and want to know where we stand on it because mayor I think that you may be thinking of the Senate Bill 1787 which I believe

[5:01:19] was the Adu that was defeated narrow the one that was defeated was Bill 1412. that was the house bill I think well the Senate Bill 1412. okay okay was defeated by the house by two votes who votes right what hasn't come up is the Senate Bill 1787 I think I've been not notified that it has been uh yeah I haven't I haven't tracked 1787 yeah so and Drew Drew is going to alert us of that one so looks like that bill is relating to the size and density requirements for residential lots of that again it says relating to the size and density requirements for residential lots yeah let me look at the status is it moving Theresa yeah because as of today I mean I will I drew is going to alert me and he alerted me on the 1412 so I know what happened there I just haven't heard about this one I talked to him earlier in the week I'm sure as you did on the 1412 and he didn't bring up 1787 at that point so the last history noted is that on May 23rd it was placed on the General State calendar so it hasn't been heard apparently hasn't even been heard and just have a few days left and we're following all of those related bills the state Planning Association as well as tml follow all of those so we get regular updates and like I said earlier that that's one of the reasons some of these ordinance changes we're looking at were holding off on in case there's a change in in state law and then so finally the long-range planning and projects we've talked a couple of times here today about possible update to the city's comprehensive plan we've also recently had some discussions about updating the zoning ordinance I'll mention that there is a new state grant program that is available for updating the city's plan as well as the zoning ordinance no matching required up to three hundred thousand dollars a couple of issues with it number one

[5:03:22] in order to get the funds for a zoning ordinance you have to have a comprehensive plan or land use plan that has been updated in the past five years which ours does not so we wouldn't qualify for that Grant unless we use it to both update the plan as well as the zoning ordinance the other issue that we have to work out is the timing if I won't get into the complicated but basically you have two years within which to go through the whole process and adopt both the plan and the zoning ordinance otherwise you don't get the money and so we would want to make sure we're we have a process identified that could happen through adoption within that two years otherwise we might lose that entire Grant elevation you know I've brought up several times a day but I just want to keep hitting on it I don't like things sitting on the shelves and we do a lot of that um this strategic plan from 2009 was really well done with lots of community input and I think we owe it to ourselves to go through this and go through the vision Plan before we look at the city's comprehensive plan make sure that this 2009 update is inclusive is it because it you don't realize it is when you read the label on the package but part of it is in here but but this you know for me the issue is comprehensive plans are great they're meant for big bold statements long term the future of the city sometimes they don't get into specifics enough because they are big bold broad long-term plans but when we have a update a vision plan that goes with that comprehensive plan I think we need to make sure we've paid attention and worked hard to adopt adapt the vision plan into reality mayor I would I would also offer as food

[5:05:26] for thought for Council we've got more than several areas of town that are in growth mode we've heard about the North and the East we've heard about the the West coming Southwest that were probably not really a part of that 2003 or 2009 Vision Plan update and just as one council member I would be in favor if if you would need to pursue quickly simultaneously however you do it both the updating the comprehensive plan and the zoning ordinance just as one council member and if we had to then task staff to perhaps look at supplementing Grant funds to to get those done in my opinion that that's future planning we're looking at the convergence at some point in time of two interstates intersecting in this community um that area of town out there if if we're if I am doing my job as a council member I am thinking longer term about the growth of those areas for future councils it's not going to affect this Council really but to lay some plans in place so I would be in favor of updating both our comprehensive plan and our zoning ordinance and I'll just add on to that you mentioned the the cost I just want to be clear that 300 000 would probably not cover both a plan and a zoning ordinance so um it would require some commitment of funds I don't think we'd have to do it all in one budget year either would we John if and now now to get the grant yes we we would but if if if the city had to supplement that we could do that over a couple of budget years we wouldn't have to do it all in one budget year absolutely we did a similar process when I was in Abilene and in fact we stretched it over three budget years the process really only took two years but we stretched it over three so that we could pull funds out of three separate budget years to help spread that cost out so that's definitely doable I'm I'm

[5:07:29] in favor of I'll say this to you Daniel I'm in favor of pursuing an update to the comprehensive and the zoning ordinance it's all I had unless you all have more questions no but mayor if you don't want but when we go when we go down that path there's certain parts of town that this applies to and certain when there's dozen and this goes back to conversation I had with Michael Dane and Rick in 2017 or 18. as you look at some zoning some of it applies and some of it doesn't and on the north edge of town I mean there are some requirements that come in that sure effect is that are not applicable to what we have but I just want to be cognitive as we go through it's not all is the same Encompass everything there are different parts of town and that's that's what's going to make that probably spread out over budget years is we'll address this side and that but I just don't want to see a blanket comes in that somebody's going to have to fall in line with when it doesn't even nearly apply well you're right Tom it's one of the things that we talked about when we started the Enfield program in the Lakeview area is that there's certain areas that we need to support an infill program in order to continue to develop them and they have are areas that quote can be different income levels different size a lots level different pricing of homes not all not all areas all locations are meant for every citizen people choose to live and raise a family in some specific areas and the rules and the flexibility needs to go with those districts or those areas Marin I do want to point out that there of course would be public forums that you'd have Town Hall meetings you'd have input from citizens in those areas as well and we definitely would take all that into consideration as we develop a plan as well so again that's a good point uh Tom I hate to admit uh but um [Music]

[5:09:35] it's the same Blue Ribbon it goes back to that okay but no there's a there's a way for us to make sure that all that is is accounted for and of course have that input as well so uh absolutely y'all are all correct I mean it'd be it'd be it'd be great if we actually did come up with a plan that actually helped us to kind of customize to the needs of those areas so that's exactly what we get out of this yeah and one of the issues as it relates to Tommy's comment about the interstates coming through here is that um until we have started the planning and Engineering of those interstates we don't have the direct routes that they're going to be taking so a comprehensive plan cannot necessarily incorporate all of that right now because the planning and the engineering and the buying of property to execute those interstates we're not at that level we do believe in this current as of yesterday in the current legislative session in the transportation committee not commission that they approved the funding for the planning and Engineering of what we call segment three of the i-27 corridor we asked for planning and Engineering monies for segment one segment two and segment three are the entire segment we did not have support from our local elected officials for Segment two or segment one to do that but there was support and a vote to come up with the money for the planning and engineering sharing of segment three which is from Sonora to Laredo that is the most crucial area for the interstate because it's the the most important areas coming out of Laredo in the most difficult part of building that interstate from a geographical perspective as well as the conditions of those current roads will require the most amount of money of the entire Interstate Corridor and so

[5:11:39] that money has been set aside for that segment three or we believe it's being set aside for Segment three so part of that trying to plan around the interstate right now from a conceptual perspective is correct but even from a logistics perspective we don't have that route totally worked out as well as a reliever route we have designated the reliever route in terms of going from point A to point B conceptually but we've not even laid out exactly that route so we don't even know which lands will need to be acquired the angle the direction Etc so some of that is so preliminary it would be hard to to put into comprehensive plan right now although we know it's coming but we're not there yet and none of the planning documents have been created it could be that not everybody knows your role would you put that hat on and introduce yourself for the well I am Brenda Gunter and I am the mayor of the city of San Angelo but I'm the treasurer of the Porsche Plains committee but I'm also the i-27 advisory committee president or chairman and so we presented yesterday to the Transportation Commission not the committee the commission a ports to planes strategy behind the i-27 corridor and the importance of it and we had we were the only city the only group really that came forward and made some very strong points towards a Transportation Commission on the importance of the i-27 corridor and so thank you it's nice to meet you thank you and we will be having Lauren Garduno Garduno is going to come and make a presentation to our city council on the

[5:13:44] i-27 corridor we hope sometime in June maybe the second meeting to present to council Cosa DC or whoever wants to hear the presentation so he'll come and present it as an overall presentation so he'll update everyone and hopefully we'll have some final news on funding okay so we are going down to break mayor let's take a break for uh Chief Carter oh where is the chief oh Michael Dane it says Public Safety oh no sorry it says development projects yeah you don't want to skip over the best part come on give it to us good afternoon mayor and Council Michael Dain interim economic development director our theme for priorities is Planes Trains and Automobiles so jumping right into planes project Skyline has been in the works for a while we've signed a contract this year public private partnership the public side of the dollars three million dollars in a commitment from coasta DC um that is a fixed commitment as prices vary they are responsible for the amounts that it's going to take above the 3 million they also so they control their fate somewhat to the extent that they can value engineer against the inflationary pressures and uh they also control to a great extent the construction schedule and methods that's on them they they will construct and they will pay and we will reimburse for up to three million dollars very excited about this project it will renovate the GTE hanger a fixture at our airport for a long time put it back into use I was told once the best way to preserve an

[5:15:46] old building is to upfit it so it can be currently used and in an everyday fashion so we're excited about that there will be new construction on the air side the FBO part of the facility will be all new and they will construct that unprojected timing on that Michael we signed the contract and we hear that their contractor is working through the permitting process or the planning process in advance of the permitting process I don't know specifically where they're at I think they want to move within a year and be operating but I would be surprised if it moved that quickly but that's very much in their hands uh it has moved a little slow because the leadership the ownership at Skyline has they have multiple business interests and they've had some mergers and Acquisitions I think during the last year that that had their attention somewhat but uh project Skyline is exciting we are glad to see it moving forward and uh I think it's going to be a great addition to the airport another point add new parking facilities generally use parking and rental car parking so we know we're moving some of the rental car out expanding the general use and when it says add new I guess that's what the new is is the rental car area yes ma'am I'm sorry I skipped over that they are reconfiguring and updating the parking that is over on that block where the The Hanger is now part of it will be my understanding is General use and part of it will be dedicated to rental car I think the plan is to try to get the rental car activity out of the short term lot and so thereby increase the short-term

[5:17:50] capacity that's the hope you'll see see how it works out good question unpotable water supply some years ago we created adapted some pipelines to create a non-potable water supply to support fire suppression systems as development has occurred at the airport there's there's more strain on that system and portions of that system are older at Cosa DC We are continuing advocates for development of at the airport and at we need to consider whether the capacity and condition of that system in light of our ambition for continued development so Cosa DC has funded a study we've signed that contract and we're working with Shane and his folks we have a mutual interest in determining that that that that that provides satisfactory flow and is in satisfactory condition and the City so we're working together on that but Cosa DSC is funding it because cocdc or the primary proponents or advocates for development at the airport once we get that back I think there the deadline in the contract is sometime in August to get us the results um once we get that back we'll be able to develop a plan or a strategy for improvements if necessary we'll we'll see where that takes us where their study takes us we're we're interested in terminal Etc or when you say Pump Station and backup power specifically what are we looking at

[5:19:53] well I think they're thinking about a backup generator to provide electricity so in the event that we have we lose electricity that we can still utilize that system to put out fires in other words that system can still be pressurized to provide um adequate pressure for fire suppression systems uh rail next Planes Trains let's go back to that slide yes ma'am let me make sure I understand building improvements and adequacy to meet future expansions so what what are you talking about here well I think those are General statements building improvements technically the skyline project is an improvement to a building plus it's an expansion but we're hoping for more than that for example ASU is discussing the possibility of building classrooms out there they are I think it was either yesterday or today meeting with airport Personnel I think it was yesterday they met with airport Personnel to begin uh or to make progress on a contract for leasing a footprint out there not far from the GTE hanger and they would construct a new facility which would include classrooms and either in this phase or in a future phase they are contemplating hangers also and so we would like that facility also to have adequate supply for a fire suppression system but we're hoping for more than that remember that there's a Runway out there that's going to close down and that's going to open up significant uh property along the taxiway that could be developed both inside and outside the fence and so

[5:21:55] in the hopes that we would attract some development in that way we would like the systems um provide adequate capacity this airport as you know has been a long-term priority for the city council in terms of making it a bigger asset to the community in terms of usage but also in terms of development so this airport is considered one of our top priorities in terms of making it far more important yeah Jeremy reminds us of that every time we resist in any way but he and that board out there are very appreciative of council's support for the airport okay trains San Angelo Rail Port this is the photo here is a photo of our rail Park a train real train with real cars with real loads in our Park that is a functioning rail park at uh at this point they continue to construct based on their needs private private Enterprise and they'll they'll construct based on what their customers needs are yesterday of course the Transportation Commission is also over the rail in the state of Texas and so they're definitely talking about Rail and we had an opportunity to talk about the Rail Port here in San Angelo Texas sounds good um one of the a couple of notes um Michael Looney reported to us that our rail Park is one of the few locations in the country where you can build a facility and have some control about where the rail is if you want the rail to come through your

[5:23:57] Warehouse so you can unload out of the weather this is an opportunity he says it's a it's a real attention getter at this point so we're hoping that some develop development follows from that I think we should call it rail Park not Port Port almost makes everyone think it's on water right sounds good one of the issues it's not really an issue it's just further the next step in development would be the extension of water and wastewater utilities out there and we have on this issue also started a discussion with City personnel because we have interest in common associated with that it's not just Shane touched on extending these services but there may be some some some capacity um opportunities on the city Side in this part of town that that the city may want we may want to take on together and so at this point we're having those conversations and viewing this part of that and some expansion on the of uh or in updating on the city Side as a project that we might take on together we've also I think submitted some information to try to pursue some federal grants so we're hoping those come through because the numbers got very large on this I think Jane said 3.5 million for the water sewer Loop is that what you said I think that was just one remember I think that was just water water yeah just not you don't have to walk up here just make a big nodder and like this or something that and I think the our recent lift station bids caused Bob's update on that to go up and I think at some point I heard the number come on forward backwards forward five million for sure

[5:26:01] I think I heard something about 10 to 15 million that's what I had heard at one point the the lift station would be roughly based on based on the numbers we just got back in for the Lake nezworthy Project be roughly 5 million five and a half million on the on the lift station and so and that's the lift station of course there is some piping that would would have to occur with that now one of the the other issues is as we start talking about water capacity for the rail Park area again we talked about the elevated storage tank up and that kind of that Northeast quadrant of town that's where we start getting into the 11 to 15 million I knew it was going to be big Shane doesn't walk across the room for less than 10 million dollars [Laughter] uh any other questions or things we should talk about on the San Angelo rail Park sooner or later I'm sure about the expansion and the additional property that might be needed and the city owns it so we're protected from that perspective we are in of course I've got my Cosa DC hat on and I'll be looking for a very favorable rate on that land we touched earlier on i-27 next two slides are i-27 and and i-14 I think uh kind of a significant Milestone was reached this year didn't i-27 receive its Federal received the federal designation of a future Interstate we were already considered a high priority traffic but we got Interstate designation and then in April we also got the formal designation of the numbers so um until you get a number you're not an you're an interstate approved but you're not a numbered interstate and we now have the official i-27 designation for the entire route of New Mexico and Texas outstanding congratulations

[5:28:07] the mayor has represented the city for some time on that and I'm sure she's proud of that work the the concerning thing I heard earlier was designation for different segments and our segment didn't have enough political support well that was what what originally had been requested Michael was 1.2 billion dollars for planning and construction of the entire our planning and Engineering of the entire corridor from Laredo to basically um Amarillo and then we submitted separate segments because we're three segments we're segment two so we provided statistics on each of those segments but we had to prioritize those segments and so we made segment three the number one priority because a lot even in our segment too either is two lane with passing Lanes or from San Angelo to Big Spring is four lane it's not four lane divided with Frontage roads but it's four lane and then from Big Spring the same thing so things will happen in steps but the most important part is getting it out of Laredo to Sonora and interstates are in you can't put up a sign that says your designated future Interstate no signs are permitted unless you already are connected to an interstate and we are not so we cannot put up any signs or any designations for that and then interstates have to connect with interstates and we will be because I-20 I mean I-20 and Big Spring connect to our 87 Loop or i-27 Loop and in Sonora to I-10 or I-20 I-10 and so ultimately we'll be able to do that but the rule is no signage no anything until you're connected to a future

[5:30:08] Interstate with your Interstate connection DC continues to pay for the memberships for both of those but the mayor has been our representative in those groups Industrial Park phase one there were no property sales in 2022 there's approximately 24.6 Acres still available available in phase one I'll give you a financial summary here in a minute phase two we had a little brush clearing project this year that's complete and we have a nine Acre parcel under contract we anticipate that that will sell this year in summary you know one of the things that came up in conversation about our industrial park is that we have an established some specific guidelines as as it relates to what the facilities must look like in other words do we want just metal buildings or do we want something more brick or stone oriented something that makes it um a higher I don't almost maybe higher end it brings value to brings better value to it and I think I would ask that somewhere along the line whether it's that it needs to be discussed in cocdc perhaps what we want the industrial park to look like that's an excellent point and I'm going to jump ahead to Future needs because one of the issues we talked about the intersection of the interstates when they come through I can still remember the first time I came through San Angelo and I came in the north part of town it's a west Texas town and then I can still remember crossing the river for the first time I looked upstream and I can still see looking Upstream going Southbound on Brian what

[5:32:11] a beautiful spot and it made a significant impression they're going to be lots of people we think going traveling on those interstates and that's going to be their first impression of San Angelo so things like I don't know if it's a bigger comprehensive planning issue or if it's just a Industrial Park um who do we want to look like right what what is what impression do we want to make so I don't know if it's a big plan kind of an issue but I think when that comes through we want to put the pressure on Tech Stop for making it look good and we may I'm not sure what I'm not a planner so what what do we do to make that Corridor attractive to people who are just being introduced to San Angelo and and so whether that is part of a bigger plan or if it becomes a small piece on its own I think that's something we need to think about and whether that's uh Coastal DC funded item I don't know if that's legal but people who know something about real estate should be in the loop on that and participate in just like the comment about what should our Industrial Park look like what should it look like from when you're going over those overpasses going around San Angelo what do we want people to see so yes Tommy please Michael I'm sitting on your to the mayor's point I do remember conversation in kosa DC some years back about early in the life of the of the park Business Park um appearance standards now whether they were ever adopted or okay well you're right there were some some discussion about that I don't know if we ever passed them or not we'll have to we'll have to dig that up you might you might drag that up and see what even what the discussion was to have another jumping off point for a new discussion

[5:34:12] I think that's good if there was an initial discussion because it hasn't been executed and it was brought to our attention this year that it seems as though and I'm I don't mean this to that we're just so happy someone bought some acreage that we don't worry about what they put up and not that anybody's put up anything that's unattractive so I'm not criticizing what is there but the point is who do we need to have some parameters well the reason I think I even remember the discussion we got we dug down into the weeds so much that we got talking about Landscaping um and were we going to require any kind of landscape not not in the grand scheme but just something that gave some uh feel feel to it um that we trees shrubs uh whatever anyway well I think to your point Tommy that when we talked about the landscape ordinance a minute ago when John James was up here we allowed some of our commercial development to happen let's say out there where perhaps um on Sherwood Way where I can't think of the names now but anyway we have very little landscape parameters so you could basically put up a lot of buildings put some parking lot doesn't parking spot designations and no requirement for trees shrubs grass whatever so we have these big parking lots and prominent areas and some big buildings no trees no grass no no anything and that doesn't read well I think we could read better but again I think we have to make sure that we look at and understand who we want to look like how we want to feel without putting too much burden and expense onto a development but adding quality to our city anyway where I said it is that is those

[5:36:16] interstates are going to be somewhat the new gateways into San Angelo at least from those directions and we've had some Gateway projects that we think make an improvement and we just need to be mindful of that and get lots of positive comments on all of those gateways that we did over the past two years and particularly the one into downtown and the one at the airport lots of lots of positive comments and feedback all right well I skipped ahead this slide then didn't talk about anything on it so I better Workforce Development has become a topic in nearly every um project that we we talk about so we we need to be mindful of that We are continuing to hear we started hearing about quality of life initiatives and place making that has not faded we still hear about that kind of thing and so um at least for me the I've kind of begun developing a mindset with limited Financial Resources we want to preserve our cash by in one of those for those projects where we need cash and one of the methods would be to ask Council to be willing to be open-minded about providing tax abatements um abating values increased values for a short period of time so that we can make projects attractive I'm not asking for anything today just just for you to be aware that you may see some of that out of us in an effort to preserve cash because we're hearing some of you talk about quality of life projects where we'll need the cash to invest in a local project and a local eligible I refer us back to guess what the 2009 strategic plan that very much lays out a vision for Place making quality of life and if we follow this Vision laid out in 2009 it's amazing how

[5:38:22] much of all of those issues get addressed in this document we don't need to recreate another document it might need some updating I'm not sure because we haven't fully understood what 2009 fantastic plan laid out for us and it is about Place making many of the things I read earlier today was San Angelo making it a place whether you call Place making or a place this is what this document laid out for us and what we will probably need is the opportunity to go to Cosa DC to help fund some of those quote Place making value improvements well on that note cocdc had its annual meeting earlier this week but they postponed the strategic planning portion of the meeting because they wanted to hear your thoughts and your priorities before they began working on theirs so that group is ready to uh link with you and uh pursuit of those objectives and I'm not sure honestly and it's probably something we need to do is provide to the cocdc members this visioning part of the San Angelo strategic plan which lays out a great quality of life Place making strategic plans and things to consider because it should be the guiding document we use in the guiding document that they use in combination with visiting with us to implement Place making decisions well laid out all right

[5:40:27] I think that's all I have for you do you have any questions or comments questions for Michael thank you very much commercial okay that was commercial development and Industrial Development altogether okay all right Chief Carter you're on David Howard you're on good afternoon again good afternoon we'll go somewhere between 60 and 80 slides and we'll try to move through this fantastic well we were thinking about a hundred so really you cut it down by 25 percent of the video we like pictures at this point in the game we'd like some pictures yeah it's rather fast I know all this is available in your package so we'll start with it well we didn't get these packets so we weren't where we didn't we wouldn't we didn't have any of it okay start with the Department profile our current Staffing numbers for 2023 authorized by City councils at 180. currently sworn officers we have 162. we do have five Cadets will be graduating the police academy on June 9th we have a total of 31 civilian employees dispatcher told authorized number of dispatchers there's 24 authorized as of May 18th there are 15 dispatchers 10 fully trained five in training and four in the process as you see we're already establishing a pattern here of employees and lack of their uh both in the police department and the civilian side and dispatch um the number one challenge that we're facing is as he said is Staffing uh we continually lose 10 officers per year in in the past we were able to hire 10 to 12 per year but now we're starting to

[5:42:29] slip behind and we're you know we're at nine per year when we're losing 10 per year so so you're staying neutral we're staying neutral or just a step behind definitely the 19 until president apartment has seen significant drop in number of police applicants who apply or test for the police officer position over the last five years our average has been 30 applicants I know when I took the test which has been long ago or well over 200. times have changed in the last 30 years I understand that but with those numbers like David said we're losing more due to retirement or leaving the profession and we can't replace them enough we just had an oral board out of this test which we had to postpone for four months to begin with to get enough people to take the test we had nine people go to oral board our pass fail rates about 60 percent so as of yesterday we hired six fail rate of 60 percent is significant and that's that's due to the background uh I know no I think I think I'm aware of that but that is you know and it seems like to me on a daily basis we get these you know unfortunately we have social media that doesn't help anybody and the amount of negative press on being a police officer in lawsuits and civil suits and everything against police and challenges to arrests or whatever it is would not be encouraging for someone to step into the boots of of being a police officer and I think that's really unfortunate is it's needed it's a sign of the times yes and this is this is not an issue isolated San Angelo Texas it's a nationwide Statewide I talked to the director of DPS over this whole quarter or this whole section District he's down 120 officers DPS Patrol officers and with that being said it's several

[5:44:31] factors why that is and that's because the profession itself and the negativity student debt loan and there are some that are just that will go to higher paying departments but pay is not everything a lot of them are just totally getting out of profession of your traditional guys your traditional employees when I grew up your 35 40 Year guys that's a thing of the past you're not going to see that anymore they don't want to see that anymore Daniel did you have were you going to make a comment I was just making a comment a while ago you're uh you're losing 10 people and you gain nine you actually have a deficit of one every year you know so that number goes down every year that's correct over the five years you lose five and you just can't make those up that's right and and you can only have uh it takes a year to have an academy so you're never making it up okay keep that in mind right quick David we just hired those folks it'll take it better part of a year if not a little bit more before we can ever hire somebody again so with those that haven't even started today that brings our numbers to 174. we're authorized 180. I know of three or four that are fixing to retire or will retire including my positions as well as a few others between now may of 2024. well Chief card because you just brought it up and we just passed those things what because we changed the election of the police chief which would have traditionally been in 24 right correct so now we're not doing it till 25. no it the election I didn't correct you earlier the election will be 2024 it will remain elected with a couple Provisions it will not be a one-year term it will be a three-year term on the first cycle then thereafter after the first three-year term it'll turn back to a four-year term that's what we just need clarification on just to make sure everybody is understanding that rather than it being one year yeah would be three years okay what you have in front of you is our calls calls for service from 2018 to now and this projects out to be probably

[5:46:35] 97 000 calls for service this year so they're increasing the next slide will be the our crime stats from 2016 until current May of 2023 as you look there you can see the bottom figures in red percentage of changes eoy totals we've had significant drops over the last five six years significant drops and at some point in time basically we're not going to have a crimeless city so that's going to bottom out at some point in time and I think we're close to that we did see a rise in 2022 of a four percent increase um with that in mind that's about 170 incidents if you'll go down and look at 2022 look at the number of larcenary increase from 21.95 um that's what's killing us right now and I think a lot of that's economy driven with the price of everything we could actually station somebody at the Walmarts full time and do nothing but take theft reports that's what's driving our crime we're very fortunate that our crimes against persons if you'll notice there are murders and some of those others are down which are violent crimes but crimes against property are on the increase here this is just a graph that gives you a better description depiction of it and I I wanted to whoops I'm off the rails here sorry I wanted to go through the the murder sexual assault rock those are part one crimes that's what I was going to get to show you that's what your part one crimes those are what you're measured by now and they are Define that well they are murder sexual assault robbery exercise those yes all those those are we're required to report to the FBI and the state those particular offenses they're yes on a yearly basis so can you attribute that to anything I'm sorry it's Rob can you attribute

[5:48:40] that to anything I mean a lot of those crimes so you know you're not on the spot you're yeah investigating sure who knows where the sexual assault's going to occur I mean you're not sitting there waiting for it I mean I drop an aggressive assault it's staggering yeah and there for a while there was an increase in agassaults prior to 2016. there was a huge increase but it's dropped considerably and we're very fortunate in some cities that our house hours and larger seeing an increase in crimes against person particularly murders so on the burglary burglary burglary if I could say right it's late in the day is there a section of town that is specifically or is it all over the city of San Angelo or maybe you don't want to talk about that and that's okay that's fine and that's that's how we station our guys it's all over town I mean crime of any sort Could Happen anywhere whether it be at the lake up north south east and west predominantly the majority of the property crimes is in District what we call or beat one and two which is everything north of the East-West freeway predominantly but a crime again could happen anywhere so this this just shows the rest numbers for the rest of them I know there was some some talk earlier about the numbers of citation Revenue in 2018 I think that we've based that in our projected incomes on that which is a high expectation why it is but you'll notice in 2018 the arrests are extremely high it was an all-time high for Rex as well and it was all-time high for calls for service I can't answer that as to why yeah because you go 2018. all right 2020 I could explain some things due to covet and some other stuff this is prior to I can't explain some of the reduction that's going on now post covid

[5:50:44] uh but we're talking four 4 761 arrests in 2018 versus 3883 in 2022. that's a significant difference so this is just uh some some insights to some of our divisions division in science narcotics unit we've seized approximately 244 pounds of methamphetamine seven pounds of cocaine and four and a half pounds of heroin since 2016. that's a huge amount of drugs uh currently our Narcotics Division is down two investigators and one sergeant okay the anti-crime unit was started in 2017 the aggressively looked for repeat offenders and locked them up when they have a chance and since 2019 they've arrested 717 individuals 2019. as we continue to decrease in size the services available and the folks that we have allocated to certain sections are going to decrease and that's certainly not one that I like to see that's the core almost ever problem there's narcotics so we are down to at the moment as we continue to decline we may have to cut calls for service and other things uh back when we were fully staffed we did make it to 180 officers probably two years ago we short-lived we were able to add a couple extra detectives a extra Cold Case detective in which we use very well we solved two cold cases one dating back to 1986 W Doc's case so when the Jordan Holden case so we're very proud of that but with that in mind we're able to staff any child's crime Detective traffic safety program what we've done is is the officers are focused on high accident High complaint zones in an effort to reduce the the number of

[5:52:48] problems at those locations and we've had a decrease of 12 percent in accidents since 2016. 7 uh Seventh Street continues to be a problem right both at chadburn and Bryant Boulevard that talking about what the homeless underneath so I'm just talking about the number of accidents that happened on 7th Street whether it's at Bryant Boulevard or whether it's at the uh the the the bus station accidentally oh yes it's such a high traffic area yes just touch on our briefly briefly um ticket Revenue this is there's multiple reasons why that is this is actually one of them it's a traffic safety program a couple years ago we got a program where we actually can look at all intersections in the city and see where the majority of the accidents are located or happening so we're trying to focus during our traffic safety program which these officers actually getting paid overtime to go out and write tickets Focus their time on that or citizen complaints that come in through the PD or they come to me I will tell you those locate and school zones and I will tell you those locations are probably not as productive as somebody that sits out on a flat long stretch of road where somebody's probably going to be speeding but what's the result other than a ticket so I we're down 12 percent I like that figure whether we can attribute that totally to less wrecks as you'll see here I just told you all ago in 2018 we had the highest ticket Revenue which you are Basin we also had the most rakes well do they correlate or do they not but our mission is safety I don't care if it's a warning verbal warning a written warning or a ticket and by law I cannot tell an officer which law to enforce which law to give a warning on and which law to

[5:54:50] give a written ticket on I can't give a quota I can't tell officer X you're going to write two tickets per day that is against the law for me to even discuss anyway those are just a few of the reasons why our citations can vary the DWI step program a lot of emphasis was placed on it we got some new software and it streamlined the process so the DWI arrests have increased 120 percent uh used to a DWI arrest would take you three or four hours once you you'd be off the street for three or four hours that time has been reduced to about an hour and 25 minutes now so Lumber accidents graph in 2018 we'll discuss again there was 2613 we'll move forward the end of year 2022 2297. this is the graph on the number of fatalities each year so you can y'all can see that grant funding uh 22 and year 22 2022 and 2023 we utilized 611 000 worth of Grant funds and there's a list of items there that we purchased using Grant funds I know you uh submitted I think through Congressman Lee um pflueger's office for some things and when I was in Washington DC he specifically said that the one you guys requested was one he was going to push forward hard to make happen so there were two things he was really going to focus on and that was one of the key ones that he was going to try to push forward I don't know where it stands have you had any word back on anything secretary did just advise me that there was one of the grants that they are looking at it'll probably be several months it's a Cooperative effort and a basically a radio upgrade system upgrade

[5:56:54] of several million dollars if that Grant goes through and it does happen we'll we'll get an additional seven to ten years out of this radio system so that'd be a big deal donations this is just people in the community the back the badge fundraiser we've had 185 000 worth of donations uh and using those donations you can see the list of things canines gem equipment safety equipment door entry kits to make access uh into like buildings that are locked school buildings if you need to get into the door with Firearms so trying to paint a picture outside of our budget which is very slim I mean 90 it seemed like 99 percent of it is personnel and and pay so we're utilizing and doing everything that we can within our power to find these grants or even donations of back to badge and stuff of this nature a lot of this stuff wouldn't have been funded 185 000 over the four or five years donations for canines that it's normally not stockpiled in our budget is very thin what we we have although it's 19 or 21 million dollars this is this is some of what we covered earlier so we're not going to beat the source of death this is there's some pictures of the inside of the building if you want to take a real close look there correct real scary as those on the right there is one of our evidence rooms yeah those over there that's that's evidence now it is organized barcode and catalog but that's that's not good and then the steps we've got safety issues I know you do I know you do it is so I'm gonna wrap up here and have any questions or Mission critical needs is competitive pay increasing the total numbers sworn

[5:58:56] officer by five if you remember back in 2017 I approached council with an increase of 20 bodies over four years we were able to increase 15 bodies over now would be seven years highly appreciated and I know we're at the point that we can't even get 180s probably what you're asking yourself but there will be a point in time that I hope that we will we hope you get to 180. we got there it was short-lived and there so it's challenging times right now for everybody new police building new training facility with that in mind we're going to wrap up if anybody's got any questions thanks for being patient thanks for sitting through the overview of our city and I appreciate what you all do go ahead when you all go through the applicant process and you get somebody to apply and go and this is going into the recruitment phase tell me how their compensation starts do they start do we hire them and they start getting paid is there a training period you had student loan debt down there I didn't know kind of how that applies so just give me an idea what those kids have to do sure we're civil service departments so we can't hire like a lot of people do or Sheriff's Department's lateral transfers I know you hear that and we have our own Academy so once they take a civil service test an entry level exam and of course they go through the background polygraph and everything we decide okay we're going to hire them once we do we give them a conditional officers they go to actually our Academy drawing a salary and they'll complete that Academy I don't know exactly how many months to the day it is roughly eight months when they complete that their next cycle would be riding with an officer for a total of 16 weeks they complete that then they've got roughly six more months left and then they're no longer a probationary officer they're vested so that's the process it's a very long now if we were not during that process that's correct they are getting paid the entire time Cadet pay so from the time they get approved and you hire them to when they start getting income is that days weeks month we've shortened that down used to it was a little bit longer but by the time that

[6:00:59] we decide okay we're going to hire them or our form a list and go through and do all the backgrounds it roughly takes about four months before we actually send them to the academy as soon as they start the academy they start drawing pay okay it's a Cadet pay then uh that pay increases once they're certified officers so um we need each more applicants we need to get you more I mean you have two sons right I'm going to send one to the Air Force Academy luxury of a lateral program you can pick somebody up that's already got experience and trained as to where we have to send them to our own Academy being civil service you either have to be meet and confer or non-civil service department to have a lateral transfer program well you need help we need to figure out what we can do yeah thanks guys I have a question yes sir you have a hard-working bunch of people that are volunteers for you how are you doing on volunteers right now I think our last count we had 12 volunteers we we work with the RSVP program and they'll send a letter and what are your needs we have this person that fits this mold and uh in in some areas the technology has caused us to not be able to use some of those Volunteers in area in areas that we used to but but they do actively participate they go out and they do the handy they love the handicap enforcement they're a big help to us and the public so we do have a bunch of active volunteers do they do any traffic work you know no actual traffic enforcement other than the handicap and private and public parking lots and that's all they'll do they call a lot of victims on reported crimes that are sent to criminal investigation division whether they want to follow up or not but a a large help a big help they are I get more help out of some of those retirees and I do a

[6:03:01] full-time employee and they don't get paid we appreciate them thank you very much let me take another break [Laughter] so I do have to let Chief Carter know that Tom's boy's already committed to the fire department this is a city council and seeing none of us are going to help contribute to Staffing the Fire or the place here we don't have any candidates sitting up here who can push that agenda go ahead Chief Brady that's mine good afternoon good afternoon I'm back so first thing first slide up there is the mission statement of the fire department I think it's important for us to truly focus on what we're here for and I routinely look at this and it gives us guidance and Direction while we're here uh first slide is basically just our call volume some statistics uh fire calls last year 2022 4700 calls of service for fire fire only and then 12 200 EMS calls public education this aspect I'm actually really proud of because we're directly feeding back into our community we're giving our community the tools for them to help themselves and help their neighbors we delivered over 30 stop to bleed presentations to our community and delivered 40 CPR certification classes to our community as well and put those together that's more than one class a week very busy in this program educating our community to help themselves the next few slides are going to be a report on some projects that we've had over over the last year that we're kind of closing down engine three and engine

[6:05:03] fives are set to go into production on the first of July we purchased these over 15 months ago and they're just now going into production with a completion date of September and hopefully these vehicles will be in full service prior to the end of this year we also implemented a health and fitness initiative and um this is a a fitness initiative that we kind of modeled after the Texas DPS and this plan is a 100 meter road test and each individual's time is based on their age their gender and then also their weight so our goal for every member of our department is to have a 50 VO2 max and what's a VO2 max right so basically a VO2 max is the efficiency that your body consumes O2 oxygen and then how your body translates that and uses that oxygen to convert it to energy so the higher your VO2 max the more efficient and the more athletic you are so National about 35 to 40 is the national VO2 max but for elite athletes Like Chief Carter and myself 85 to 90 is a good figure city council what would that number I just wonder 35 to 40 is average now keeping on we said the we said our minimum standard for our department at 50 okay national average for male is 35 to 40. so we also mandated a a daily PT program every day of firefighters on shift they're required to participate in some sort of PT activity so um yearly we did a road test to evaluate the performance of our personnel and we had 100 participation in this road test and 2021 94 percent of our department met that 50 standard in 2022 96 met that

[6:07:09] 50 standard and we've got a goal in 2023 of 98 and yes we do have several of our members that are 85 all the way up to 100 and I gave that figure of a lead athletes or above 85. we have a lot of really good athletes in our department a lot of a lot of folks in great shape so so we've also increased our tiffness capabilities last year we had one Strike team leader trainee that person is now a full-fledged Strike team leader and out on the Wildland incident scene this person would be in charge of five units with three to four Personnel on in on each unit so pretty much in charge of the entire incident so that is a very high ranking position in the in the Wildland world we also maintained seven engine bosses and 40 Deployable team members and we've maintained our Rim team which is rapid extrication module and with these Tiff Miss that's Texas interest intrastate fire Mutual Aid System I forgot to tell you all that but anyways on this Rim team uh there's only about three of these teams across the entire State and at a certain level of incident they're required to have a rem team Deploy on this so we actually went on one Rim team deployment last year some of our other deployments we had five Wildland deployments we also had four Wildland paramedic deployments as we're a paramedic respond with a four-wheel drive vehicle or an ambulance unit and uh they're there for the firefighters on the fire line Wildland event is a true wildfire that our guys are out there working on different communities across the state of Texas and then also border support we have an engine staged to protect a prison um and that and that program has been continual up into this point [Music] so down in the Border support we have eight people that rotate day shift and night shift 12-hour shifts and uh they'll be they're there for two weeks

[6:09:13] at a time and then they rotate back here yeah is the city compensated for the absolutely it's zero costs for the city our overtime that the members that are deployed make the overtime for the backfield to fill those positions at home and we are also compensated for that for our units that are deployed so a type 1 engine receives 70 no receives 81 dollars an hour when it's on deployment so my next slide I was going to come back to this well it was mentioned earlier which one of these programs not necessarily my department but which one of these programs has the highest possibility of generating Revenue well I've got two different programs where a fire department doesn't necessarily generate Revenue it's a service for our community well we have found a way to generate Revenue in multiple different aspects our training center being one of those and being members of this tiffness program also another ability to generate Revenue because of the classes you held yes ma'am for all the certifications you can't just jump into the Tiff Miss World um let me back up one so the way the progression starts is these Deployable members they're called firefighters one and two you have to open a task book for that Rank and it you have to spend hundreds of hours completing that task book you actually have to go on deployment so you were a you're a firefighter trainee first and you have to do that for a period of time and then you'll open up a engine boss task book same thing you have to do Pac testing that pack test is where it's a physical fitness test that shows that you can make it on an actual Wildfire event you have to take certification courses from the Texas Forest Service there is a whole lot to go into each one of these ranks that's why as you see it tears up there's less and less people that are at those higher ranks so a lot goes into it and it should it keeps people safe this is a yet I thank you back to

[6:11:16] council our bunker gear project if y'all remember last year y'all approved for this project to be fully funded we now have two complete firefighter ensembles for every member of the fire department we've also installed a bunker gear dryer at every fire station and then also an extractor which is a firefighter bunker gear washing machine it is a um Special Machine to pull the pull the liquid out of the fibers of the bunker gear without destroying them so but thank you Council for fully funding this and this program is closed down now Training Center uh this is a program that I I just got finished telling you I'm really excited about and actually really proud of the success we had last year we hosted two Regional area schools for our local volunteer community we just finished one up last month it was in the vehicle Tech 2 extrication class and some of those pictures are actually on this slide and by the fall of 2024 we will be offering our our first basic fire academy to outside students we talk about generating Revenue if we allow outside students to come into our Academy they will pay for us to do that okay we are already teaching our students so it doesn't cost us any more to teach one or two or three or five more students but we have the benefit of generating a little bit of revenue for that service um what's the revenue so that question's kind of still up in the air because some of these other departments or some of these other educational facilities offer 100 online course at a extremely reduced price because they get reimbursements about back from the state to offer that fire academy well with us doing face to face we haven't quite decided on exactly what the tuition would be per student

[6:13:20] somewhere between 2500 to 5 000 per student with the potential of having 20 to 30 students per class yeah no that's too much not until I get my training center additional classroom that's what I mean by busting at the seams we could probably realistically do 15 to 20 fire students at one time and if you have 20 of those students outside there's a potential for a large amount of Revenue can't make any promises because we're not there yet So currently what do you have for Revenue building how much revenue have we generated well the fall of 24 will be the first outside class for the fire academy the other trainings that you have done oh okay so like that vehicle extrication class we had 20 students from the outside the area and they um the cost for the course was 4 400 a student and of course we have some overhead costs overtime for my Personnel food costs for the students and uh just some general operating expenses where we netted about six thousand dollars for the course over a three day weekend we made it netted about six thousand dollars well I have a huge need out of the training academy and no way to fund that need which is to put up a fence around the property well I don't think six thousand dollars is going to be able to cover a fence to surround the property but it's going to certainly take care of six thousand dollars of that expense so found an additional six thousand dollars to help us with that budgetary problem that we have no even not to mention heads and beds people staying here oh absolutely we brought we bought uh um people from outside of our community I'm all the way down from South Texas down by Houston we had students from all the way down there had a couple out of the Panhandle so not the food restaurants so um the next point on here that we acquired an aircraft prop one of the goals that I had last year was to acquire an aircraft prop and this just

[6:15:22] kind of fell in our lap um and it cost us next to nothing it's you know this is a firefighter prop that is plumbed with propane and it's all rudimentary steel and it kind of looks like an aircraft and right now we have the prop now we just got to find the funding to put it into put it into place and the very next item that we purchased in American Airlines aircraft that one truly did fall in our laps we were reached out to by a carrier that wanted to sell us this aircraft for about thirty five thousand well do some negotiations one way to another we ended up getting it delivered for less than six thousand dollars so what what would we use an airplane for I I don't have a pilot's license I'm not going to be flying back and forth this this aircraft was decommissioned Wings taken off of it it is used for uh our aircraft rescue firefighting training for search and rescue within the fuselage it's one of the objectives of getting that certification that we have to have for our aircraft personnel so a lot of really exciting things going on at the training academy uh looking forward to the growth and the expansion of the services provided out there we've got a lot of great people out there and they're motivated to make this successful okay so my next slide sorry so my next slide this is a coverage map of San Angelo and you recognize the red line is the city limits within the city and each one of the blue circles is a three mile diameter circle and the center point is a fire station and you can look for the most part the city of San Angelo has got pretty decent coverage with fire stations with one fairly glaring exception right right there okay that is south of town right on Grand

[6:17:25] Canal and what's important about this is that area is more than five road miles from the closest fire station so fire stations fire station why won't this thing move okay so fire station Seven which is just immediately North to that area fire station four which is northeast of that area out on chadburn of the North or South Gate of Goodfellow Air Force Base and then Fire Station 8 which is out by the airport which is uh Southwest of that area each one of those stations is greater than five road miles from this area and more importantly the closest fire station is more than seven seven minute response so this next video it's actually a video that was put together from by underwriter Laboratories and it was based on some research from the fire service research institute and the video illustrates Tina I don't know there's like a play button at the bottom I was worried this would happen oh did you see it a little play button okay so uh what this video illustrates is a it's a comparison of two separate ropes and in these two rooms you have a legacy room which basically is furniture that is pre-1950s heavy wood cotton fiber burns slow does not burn very hot and on the right side of this video you're going to see what is a modern room okay basically what we encounter today day to day both of these fires are started at the exact same time with the same size Flame and what you're going to see is initially the natural fibers the the Legacy room is going to start and it's going to start to burn real fast if I want y'all to pay attention to the Smoke production because that is what is lethal on side of Fire

[6:19:29] smoke production in that time counter now this is Time Lapse and it has picked up this the speed of the time but that the two minute timeline that is the actual real time it's just sped up so we don't have to sit here for 20 minutes to watch a video so at the two and a half minute Mark you've got heavy smoke production in the top of the the right the right room within three minutes you had lethal amounts of smoke in the top of the room this is still survivable this is still occupy people could still occupy this space but in a very short time a fire doubles in size every minute I'm glad I have all natural I will tell you that if you've replaced your carpet in the last 50 years or replaced your uh drapes in the last 50 years or your couch in the last 50 years you have the the modern you do have the modern Furnishings okay and they're heavy plastic lighting they're full of carcinogens they're full of star or Foams polyurethanes polystyrenes and they they burn at twice the rate as natural natural fibers the reason why I selected this video is the important note of time to flash over flashover is an unsurvivable condition that's when everything within that space instantly catches on fire and I don't know if y'all were y'all saw in that video where there's a point where a bunch of stuff was on fire and then everything was on fire that's flashover it's unsurvivable for occupants and it's also unsurvivable for firefighter and turnout gear that we are protected what was the time on that that flashover four minutes 50 seconds what's the closest fire station to that neighborhood that I just showed you but on the other neighborhoods you know we got it at seven minutes five miles right but and for example at the one at the

[6:21:32] top it's very top North and then to the east what would be the East to me on this it could be to the West on you are you referring up here up up up there over over to the right to my right right in here yes ma'am that's the time frame in there so that Circle that is a three mile rate uh it's actually a half mile and a half radius it's a three mile diameter thank you Tina sure further north and then to the right I will tell you a a consultant did a comparison for the entire city of San Angelo and there is only one neighborhood that's greater than five road miles away from a fire station and that's that southern district that I showed you and I want to know what it is in this upper corner because it looks like a lot of space and room and it would look like it would be greater than five miles based off of this diagram in that diagram well that's a map so from the center of that dot to the edge of that blue line that's a mile and a half so from the center of that dot is where the fire station is located straight out the radius of that is a mile and a half and what makes it so difficult down here on the south sector of town is in station eight is actually fairly close but the lake is right between them and that neighborhood so they have to go all the way around South Concho Drive remember it's five road miles okay and when you ever go a little bit north for station five seven and station four which is directly north and north east on chadburn they have a fairly fairly straight shot to that neighborhood except it's just that far away so Southgate Church of Christ is actually right off of that 277 interchange right there that is within five miles okay Bo as you come around Grand Canal and go over into that Pinehurst and the Country Club Lake Estates area and the brand new subdivision that was added on onto Ratliff Road

[6:23:33] those are outside that Five Mile five roads according to this map it is not but we just annexed that in about four months ago five months ago it has not been that long since we annexed Ratliff Odin that whole development my btj but it's not animals yeah we did they added somewhere around 230 homes are being constructed out there on the south side of grand canal and all that area has been annexed and it's seven and a half minute response time for our closest unit so that's the takeaways from that video unsurvivable conditions after four and a Half Men or four minutes and 50 seconds and um we're by the time we Revive on scene we're significantly behind the power curve and we're set up for failure at that point and if there is a fire in that area it's going to be a defensive fire because the fire will have a stronghold on that property and interior offensive operations won't be um oh I'm sorry interior no I'm fine smoke from the video I told you it was bad so uh interior operations will not be freezable at that point we're arrival insane so we do absolutely need a ninth fire station in the southern district of San Angelo oh come on okay good so let's focus on 2024 some of the things that uh are high on the priority uh is fire after fire apparatus Capital allocation and I touched on that when we were going over CIP uh last year I spoke on on this subject regarding how we receive about 250 we received 250 000 a year for Capital allocation we cash flow all of our apparatus to avoid any kind of a lending borrowing fees um

[6:25:35] I just received a quote for a new fire engine and it is just a touch over eight hundred thousand dollars for just a regular fire engine and uh with an allocation of 25 or 250 000 it's going to take greater than three years to play replace one truck we have 10 vehicles in our Fleet it will take 30 years to completely replace our Fleet so National Fire Protection Agency recommends a 10-year replacement period but we have pushed that why because we have a fairly robust maintenance program and we also have a reduction in call volume so we can afford to push that out to 15 years but we can't afford to push it out to 30 years I don't know anybody in the room that wants a 30 year old fire truck showing up to the house right and we have four of them we have four 30-year-old vehicles in our Fleet and I'm hoping by the end of this year I can sell those off and replace them hoping to so again that figure needs to honestly if 250 000 produces 30-year if you double that figure you'll reduce the 30-year to a 15. so we realistically need that figure to be 500 to 550. so I know funding's tough but if we don't take steps now we're going to be in a real bind soon so uh another thing I'd like to see is secure the funding to be to begin a health and wellness initiative and more healthy are you going to get them we are athletes is what we are so what I mean by that more specifically is not a health and wellness initiative but to take care of our own technology has increased so much in the last 10 years there is now a a test that a person a firefighter can take where they can detect cancer in its very early stages so firefighters are nine times more likely to develop cancer and 14 times more likely to die from cancer than an average citizen why because of

[6:27:39] all the carcinogens that we encounter in our day-to-day lives the pfos they're in the firefighter Foams the P fosses that are in our bunker gear that we put on our bodies every day we go to work we have we have the technology to test for cancer at its early stages and y'all all know Chief done he was lucky he caught his cancer at stage two that he was stage two he's a survivor of cancer because of that if we can catch one person if we can catch one cancer in its early stages it'll pay for this entire program so how much does it cost body scans are 500 per person 60 people 60 people per year 60 people per year that came through it's thirty thousand dollars annually we have 180 personnel and a three year period every single member of this department will have a cancer treatment and then you repeat the process and you repeat the process um so that's that's a huge initiative that I would say love to see happen I know we've asked for it for multiple years in a row I would really love to see that happen this year um a big one that I just covered was the choir of the land for fire station number nine my goal for fire station number nine is to have it ribbon cutting ceremony five years from now that's our Target five years to have that station purchased built and moved into in five years and I know it takes a lot of time it takes a lot of money step one is to get the land and I'm actively working on securing that land uh secure the funding for the training center expansion I I kind of told you that we are busting at the seams I want to expand into offering EMS out there currently we uh we partner up with Howard College and we have to use Howard College's uh Howard College's lab I don't have a lab that fired over the training academy um I want to run fire and EMS simultaneously so I can potentially shorten my recruit Academy or I can have one group of recruits going through fire school and another group of recruits

[6:29:43] going through EMS school so I overlap my academies so I've reduced that 15-month turnaround time down to about 12 months turnaround time so and that's in training so that's all I have if y'all have any questions I'll be more than happy to answer any mom Patrick yes sir when you take these old units out is there any residual value to them no and you wouldn't talk panties on the dollar that's even a joke so ladder ladder seven if y'all remember about three years ago we replaced that ladder seven with the new aerial beautiful truck by the way thank you all um we took ladder seven put it through the auction um we got twenty five hundred dollars for that truck at the auction the aluminum in the ladder was worth more than twenty five hundred dollars the engine even if the engine had to be rebuilt it was worth 20 more than twenty five hundred dollars but we're we're kind of bound by sending it through auction I have looked into a couple options firefighter truck options but still it's Pennies on the dollar I checked with our um one of the vendors do y'all take trade-ins yes well how much would you give me for a 1992 Pierce Dash because that's what I have he goes about 2500. I guess everything's worth twenty five hundred dollars I don't know there's a point of you know law diminishing returns it's kind of like training truck do you want to ride it all the way to the end or do when you get four gears on them do you want to spin them when you still get half your headquarter yeah I mean those are things we need to look at and analyze it's obvious that you're going to need some help try to get back up and getting compliance on her just it's one of those things we we don't have a lot of wiggle room with compromising safety and we and we understand that but I was just trying to get a picture on what you need and quick and so until sooner or later I told you next week that I was going to come to council with a recommendation to move forward with the purchase of another engine well talk about Revenue generation

[6:31:46] engine 8 I'm bringing out bringing to council for y'all because we were not in a position to purchase engine eight engine eight is a 17 year old unit okay it is due for replacement and I didn't have the money last year Council was gracious enough Finance was gracious enough to throw an extra two hundred thousand dollars into my Capital allocation I still don't have enough money but because of the participation in the tiffness program we're able to buy that truck two years ahead of schedule that is huge for our taxpayers huge for city council that relieved the burden of two more years of us waiting for that vehicle because already two years out of date now I would love to be able to count on that Tiffany's money every single year but if you look outside it's rainy it's cool and nothing's burning so I I can't count on tiffness money year after year after year and that's why I talked to you all about I need that guaranteed Capital allocation because that tiffness is not always going to be there to bail us out but yes sir Tom no thank you sir any other questions Manpower so we're good for now but in the very short time so in March I hired six personnel and I hired six above my Manning I had 180 people and I hired six additional people I'm also no let me correct myself had 178 people and I had six additional people so I'm six over why because I've had four people drop their papers in the last week so one one person retired and I had one person turned in as a retirement paperwork and three people quit to seek employment other places completely away from the fire fire department that one hurts it's one thing to leave the fire department to go somewhere else and make more money with the fire department because this is our passion and our dream and our life but to give it up to go to another industry entirely tells me it was about

[6:33:49] one thing pay pay and schedule and that's a tough thing for me to hear yeah and risk absolutely so um by September this year I'll be back to even and I still have an active list I intend on hiring off of that list because it takes 12 to 14 months to get these recruits to the academy I'm going to offer another test from what I understand we already have 30 people signed up for the next test actually my recruiter is sitting right back there and he does a fantastic job giving me applicants so anyways uh we we've had more applicants in the last two years on not more than what we've had in the previous years but what we have seen is a slight increase in applicants showing up to the test why because we're showing up to the schools for um career day where blasting social media Brian Groves is helping us out with making a video and we're blowing up social media with San Angelo Fire Department is hiring where we took out Google ads we're showing up to the mall we're doing a bunch of these PR events where people see us especially at the schools because that is our future is those young people in high school and Junior High we are doing a lot of PR events where we're getting our name out there so I think that's why in the last couple years we've seen a slight increase in um right a recruitment of a personnel and this last group we had a lot of very very qualified applicants and I was very pleased with it any other questions you're welcome mayor that's that's it for the presentations now we go to the next phase which is the last one is to discuss the the priorities um whether we want to confirm the priorities like we've had them in the past six years again that being Public Safety infrastructure and economic development

[6:35:54] or if Council wants to entertain all adding to the um uh to strategic priorities any other items that you feel should be considered at this point so again this is your opportunity council members to talk about areas that you feel should be included or maybe removed from what we have right now I think we have a pretty solid list but it's your opportunity right now to speak up and say hey this is something else we want to see as well one of the things that we keep hearing about over and over again is the importance of quality of life as our city and it is our greatest recruitment tool for economic development and our first joint meeting last week on Economic Development slash Community Development that slash quality of life we went through the various things that are what makes people attracted to the city of San Angelo and um it's interesting what everyone said but they all kind of tied together in terms of Community Development if you will in terms of those assets and a lot of those assets were cultural they were Historic downtown they were Community Development opportunities or Community Development focused the river was brought up several times certainly the facilities that we have and need improved and those are certainly the river stage the Coliseum lake nasworthy is a wonderful quality of life opportunity the airport development as an economic development medical as Harry said thank God we have the medical facilities that we've had for treatment and the growth and in that area so when we take a look at this um and Michael presented many of those items to us today in terms of as well as Shane Kelton um

[6:37:56] like nasworthy with the lake nazworthy um sewer project and renewal our ability to increase that will add a lot of opportunity for Community Development down the road the airport as a major asset has needed investment and needed a focus and a vision for what it could be and can be for our city and I think it's great to hear what's going on out there it's unfortunate Rick's not here today Carl is to talk about the river and some of and the but Michael you brought it up one of the first impressions that you had coming through San Angelo when you first visited is going down Bryant Boulevard and seeing the left and the right and the river running through coming through downtown and seeing that river running through it we've long had a grain plan for extending the trail system a quality of life issue and a need to continue development on the trail systems whether it be at Twin Buttes whether it be at Lake nasworthy where whether it be a con extension of the river projects downtown around to Bell Street Etc but we have some great assets that we are always looking for additional funding to grow those assets so when we talk about confirming priorities I think today a lot of emphasis was put and focus was put on the cost and associated with maintaining these assets and making sure that we focus on the quality of life that we owe our citizens and then we also look at the cost of focusing on those quality of life and those assets to and it's devastating when you look at those dollars that are attached to that but I think over the past few years we have definitely put forth some strategies

[6:40:00] that have helped us move those things forward but we're not through and unfortunately what I think we do a lot of is we get started and then we stop and then we wait and then we start again and we've got to follow through on these projects we're applying for some grants to help us follow through on these projects hopefully we will get that money because they're things that will have a dramatic impact on this community and for example the 21 million dollar grant that we've applied for will have a great impact on our ability to connect neighborhoods connect walkability connect quality of life issues so I'm excited about that um so that's kind of my overview about what we've seen and to say a lot about where we've been and the focus but um I remember there was a report a moody analytics report that evaluated various cities in this in the United States and in Texas and the one thing that they said about San Angelo was San Angelo's not well known for its Economic Development it's well known for its quality of life and I think we need to keep that quality of life continuing if that's what's out there and be publicized about our city we want to make sure that we continue to focus on those issues that provide quality of life to our citizens quality of life we've regained our focus on their Americans with Disabilities Act and that doesn't just impact people with noticeable disabilities it impacts old people like me and throughout the community we have an awful lot of silver-haired bald-headed men there's no

[6:42:03] still we're here are you looking down here Larry up here but I think it's thinking uh Teresa has has really done one heck of a job of bringing that to the Forefront and I think it's something that we as a community should be very proud of and where we're headed with this I absolutely think it's fantastic well that is a quality of life issue and not to and and when we say that I also want to make sure I also add to that that you know part of our quality of life is our Public Safety police and fire because they all provide citizens with a sense of security and a sense of protection and so when I talk about those other assets as physical beings or physical plants if you will what's not listed there is the quality of life that is provided to us because of the quality of fire and the quality of police that we have and I don't think you all hear it often enough here at frequently enough but it definitely is a part of that conversation and I believe that our citizens feel strongly that the police and fire had a tremendous sense of quality to this community so thank you again um for doing that and unquestionably when we talk about um focus on our assets certainly our employees are important part of our assets and we will never downplay the importance that our employees pay play in terms of providing the quality of life because almost every one of these things that I talk about and reference to take good quality people executing their jobs well in order to make sure these assets Remain the assets that we have

[6:44:06] so we want to make sure that that's not dismissed in terms of an asset certainly our employees are an asset to the city of San Angelo and we thank them for the service that they give us so with that and I also would say that when we talk about employees and we talk about the asset that they are to to this organization we know that what we need to do is we look at this year's budget but as we move forward we need to do what's fair what's Equitable and what's reasonable and that means living within our budgets and living with a game plan to ensure that our people is a part of our assets are part of the conversation and that's kind of my thoughts Meredith I'd like to I'd like to add to that as well employees are an asset a lot of times employees are seen as an expense and that could be further from the truth they are an acid I think at this point seven years ago the priority for city council included pay for employees competitive pay which was really not truly competitive because like a definition competitive means you're at or beyond the cities you compare yourself to I really do feel that we need to come up with a plan I know and you mentioned mayor I mean with we know what the the revenues are going to be what's going to be forecasted we have to live within what that's going to be but with that said we also one thing that keeps popping up and I keep hearing over and over and over again and it's only rightfully uh the right thing to do is to make sure that we do develop a plan because we talk about it just about every year but this this year really when we start looking at it we need to live within our means but also say staff members you guys need to understand that we do we have developed a plan that we're going to follow and uh we're

[6:46:09] showing you the importance of what you bring to the table quality of life yes police and fire heck Parks and Recreation I mean there's a lot of employees of the city that contribute to that quality of life so with Emirate I'm glad you mentioned that but I think that's something that if anything should be a priority for moving forward is to address a plan that we can develop and present to city council members and say hey look this is what the plan is over multiple leaders don't I'm not saying this year but over multiple years this is what it looks like and this is living within our means as well yeah and with all due respect that's correct as it is all these things there are a lot of requests um today presented for us to for consideration and when we look at the totality of those numbers it's Way Beyond any number that we're going to have available to spend right so we you know we have to budget revenue and expense in the same column but what was good today and I'm I'm pleased that we spent as much time as we did and the presentations we took longer today than we normally do but I think it was very beneficial to everyone to hear from our various departments and understand not only what might be a top priority right now but what are long-term plans have to be need to be and then figuring out what's reasonable for this year but understanding that whatever our revenues are this year does not mean that those rev same revenues will exist in this next year if the business climate changes so they've got to be very good strategic plans I'm really pleased with the quality of work and presentations that were made today and I thank everyone for their patience and hanging out here as long as you all have to listen to it but I think it's also good for you all to hear the overall um presentation of our entire City Community mayor yes sir I want to want to answer your question Daniel you you

[6:48:13] ask a question of counsel um and I want to thank the mayor too for for bringing up the employee issue and how valuable they are but Daniel I want to offer you my full support for you to develop a plan for compensation that is a I think every city employee knows that yes there are going to be years that we may not be able to meet a plan because of unanticipated unexpected things but to have a plan um I think is extremely important for stability within the organization for predictability for them as as human beings in their households but I also want to go back and be repetitious um to tie together infrastructure Economic Development and Public Safety as strategic priorities in my opinion we need to have the comprehensive plan reviewed and updated and we need to have the zoning ordinance updated it's been since 2000 the year 2000 when there was a complete a review and update of our zoning ordinance 23 years ago so as one council member I give you my full support for developing a Compensation Plan Daniel if we have to do a classification study I am beginning to see more clearly in my continuing conversations that I am having with different City personnel that we may need to look at classifications within our current plan so I I would fully support that so again you would have my full support uh and and what you need to do to bring us options to bring us proposals on a comprehensive plan review and update on the zoning ordinance update and on if it has to be a compensation and classification study you have my support um

[6:50:16] that's that's my input as one council member Karen do you have a comment I will add my hat to Tommy's hat in the ring I support that as well thank you mayor that's what we have okay okay thank you again everybody for being here the working effort that's been put into today's presentation as we move forward well we'll have some answers leave now everybody go now except it is almost Happy Hour it is Friday Memorial Day Weekend Lucy right everybody enjoy your long weekend

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