Development Services - 5-26-23 City Council Strategic Planning Workshop

[0:00:07] Target Aaron go ahead and come on and take a seat buddy you know you're going to get there just go up front settle down today all right so this this first slide really just kind of reminds you all what's what all is included in our department uh of course building permits and inspections uh GIS which does the computer mapping for the city uh development service which basically oversees the development review process and kind of coordinates the whole department and then planning and I just wanted to mention you guys see us in terms of development review UCS bring zoning cases and a lot of those sorts of things what you don't see as frequently is the future planning but that is definitely a role of our department and we do and can help tie in a lot of the things that you've already been talking about um you know if you look at our comprehensive plan it it has identified needs for the fire station locations for example and so again because of sprawl exactly and so our plans not only the plans that we have but the implementation steps that we've been taking over the years to help Implement that plan um has has helped uh guide a lot of the decisions over those last few years so I wanted to talk about I know we've talked a little bit here about the comprehensive plan why do we do that in the first place uh one as the mayor mentioned is developing that Community Vision that involves all the citizens coming together and telling us where do we want to be in the future for our city and one of the things we do a little bit differently than some of the other departments is look look out farther we look 10 20 30 years out to make sure that the decisions we're making today help us get to that future community that we want to be it also helps protect

[0:02:10] property rights I know we often get Flack for our rules and regulations telling people what they can do but we can't forget that that's helping protect their neighbors from what they might do on their property also quality of life for Citizens that's kind of a self-explanatory one and then we've talked a lot today about fiscal issues and part of the purpose of those plans is to ensure fiscal responsibility I'll just give you one example we we recently brought you all um a review of the street standards and as part of that we did an analysis we just picked a neighborhood the Bluffs and we did analysis on those streets and if if those streets had been built to the revised Street standards that would have saved the developer between two and a half and three and a half million dollars on the cost of streets just for the construction of streets that comes out to between three and four thousand dollars per lot within that subdivision and that would be applicable throughout the community for at least for those areas that are built to our current Street standard or at least the street standard at that time we also looked at what does that mean for the Sealcoat project and just for the Bluffs having those Narrow Street standards would have saved about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars every time we Sealcoat those streets and again you multiply that by every neighborhood in the city just a simple decision of how wide we build new streets in the community has a long-term fiscal impact and and it's not just streets it's all of the decisions we make in terms imagine if way back when when we made the determination to keep those streets wider how much it would have saved us way back then absolutely and I mean that's part of that with that part of the thing here is it's it's going to be difficult to go back and narrow those streets in those existing neighborhoods but we can start now and move forward in new development ensuring that those new developments are happening in a way that at least we are thoughtful about the fiscal impact of those developments to your point about

[0:04:13] sprawl uh if you know the and I don't mean that negative when I say the word sprawl but the larger the footprint the more expensive the maintenance and and cost of infrastructure is so sprawl is not a negative it's just a reality and it's something we have to deal with right but it can make an impact on ural's decisions as an example if a new development is on say half acre or one acre lots versus standard single-family Lots the cost for building streets maintaining streets water lines sewer lines the length of that for each lot is more and so it cost much more to maintain in a neighborhood with one acre lots than it does neighborhood of a typical single-family neighborhood of six to eight thousand square foot Lots so um again when you approve a large lot development versus a small lot development you're making fiscal decisions whether you know it or not and yet the further out we tend to go the more the desire for one acre lots are so that also in some cases is part of the Strategic plan from a development perspective is absolutely and if if if you all think it's worth that extra cost of one acre lots then that's that's a policy decision that you all have to make I'm saying that's sort of that's a a developer's perspective we don't determine how many one acre lots of of a new plat is going to be I mean a guy who buys that land determines what kind of a project he wants out there that's not our decision but you're telling us what happens when that happens right but you do have decisions to make in terms of what infrastructure you require or how those costs are passed on so that if a developer chooses to develop in a way that's more expensive for the taxpayers that perhaps some of that cost is borne by them rather than the taxpayers um do your comprehensive plan too John if if I hear what you're saying to have a comprehensive plan that would speak to

[0:06:18] that very thing size Lots Etc as the town continues to grow then we are making fiscal decisions whether we realize we're making fiscal decisions yeah so you know maybe what we need to do is update our comprehensive plan I'm going to shift gears and we'll come back to that I've got a slot on that a little bit later on this is our development review process every year we update you on the the kind of how we're doing in terms of development review I'm not going to read through all of these I think you've seen them before because this is publicly so this this is our goals that were established I think back in 2014 2015 uh reducing review times providing good information to applicants uh good customer service ensuring that our ordinances and processes are consistent with the goals identified in the comprehensive plan and then ensuring the consistency in the development review process and back to the comprehensive plan I will mention I know sometimes you know we talk about you know we pay Consultants to adopt a plan and then it goes on a shelf I'll say for for our part that's not the case we we've got a whole list of those implementation items from that 2003 plan and the 2000 I mean it's not it's not the key plan but it is an updated plan to the comprehensive plan even though the comprehensive plan specifically designates key areas of the city cultural historic medical whatever right so the big picture is that and then you dive into those sections exactly and so even since the 2009 plan a list of those action items that are recommended in the plan have been done over the last 15 20 years to help implement the recommendations of that plan but again we're getting towards the end of what that plan recommended and it's probably time to take a fresh look at what how we should move forward with

[0:08:20] that let me ask you a question on that then okay so if it looks on the vision plan summary from this 2009 it reads us following goal one increase the permanent residential population of downtown San Angelo goal to improve The Pedestrian experience throughout downtown three promote the Arts throughout downtown particularly from local artists goal four enhance the San Angelo's cultural identity throughout the region goal five increase accessibility of public open space in downtown and its role within the city goal six eliminate the negative effects of surface parking in the downtown core core 7 increased the role of alternative modes of transportation goal eight increased connectivity between downtown and surrounding neighborhoods then we go into neighborhoods neighborhoods promote vibrant and viable neighborhoods and there's lots of items underneath each of these so there's like eight or nine suggested things to incorporate into that improved neighborhood connectivity with and between neighborhoods goal three improve relationship between adjacent commercial and residential land use adjacencies go for grow grow new neighborhoods in San Angelo in a reliable sustainable manner goal five promote neighborhood organization and Outreach goal six improved access to open space for all residents neighborhood centers goal one contract retail commercial corridors into a series of identifiable nodes of or centers at Key intersections goal to reorganize parking strategies go through three improve pedestrian access to commercial neighborhood centers and then transition areas Revitalize age commercial corridors Bland in goal to and blend intensive commercial areas into neighborhoods seamlessly I mean I these things go on and I think they're so important as we

[0:10:22] talk through all of this because institutional and the public improve their physical relationship between the public institutions and the adjacent context I mean there's a whole series of these things and they have action steps and specific things underneath them and I wonder if we went through these individually and checked off what we have or haven't done started or not started incorporated or not incorporated into how we would grade ourselves I think that's a good point I will point out that that a number of those things have been addressed over the years uh we we've got the downtown plan we did a lake nasworthy plan we updated the thoroughfare plan we adopted a bike plan which is now in the process of being updated uh we adopted the sidewalk ordinance as I mentioned earlier we proposed some streets width standards um we've adopted multiple zoning we make changes to the zoning ordinance two or three times every year we you mentioned the parking we adopted new parking standards a couple of years ago that made it more friendly for developers to with reduced parking so I think I feel confident that if we went down that list we've we've done a number of those things but clearly there's more more work well and I think you know I think the issue is is using this is because it's a really good document and it really supplements the 2003 comprehensive plan and just as I think on an annual basis it's important for us to review this Vision plan and grade ourselves number one but then number two realistically decide what can or cannot be addressed on a timely Five-Year Plan 10-year plan whatever because the nature of comprehensive plans are as they are comprehensive long-term big term and then you narrow it down into specific action plans and I think the original comprehensive plan that was done is a very good plan in 2003 I think it addressed a lot of issues but we can't leave it at that so we've got to make

[0:12:25] sure we've really studied this 2009 Vision plan and make sure that we are particularly where we feel it was good information we follow those action steps and see if it can't guide us to ensure that we have the quality of life and the future that we want to see for this city and its citizens I think it's very important and the things you've already brought up quickly and there's more that you've done and accomplished but those were quickly the top of your mind is I read through this but I think it's a it's a great study in what we should be doing and again we'll come back to that in a few slides but um these are just some of the improvements we've made to the development review process we standardized our submittal requirements and we simplified some things for the applicants increased use of checklists so that we're ensuring that they're providing what we need but that they know what we need up front as well we revised all of our handouts to make them more user-friendly based on input we'd received from applicants we have the new permit tracking and plan review software that helps us make that process quicker and we've just implemented a development solution team that's basically similar to our development review committees but after a project is already in the process and they've come across some issue or other that we can put together a team real quick to help resolve those issues that's great um as I mentioned we've got our digital plan review process where folks can upload their projects directly to us it can be sent out to all the reviewers immediately in the old days with paper projects you know those were passed around and review took longer this is just a listing of how many projects have gone through that process just recently and Fire Prevention will begin using

[0:14:27] this for their plan reviews in in the coming years as well so this is this is our chart that just basically shows how we've been doing and those reducing the timelines and as you can see we've we pretty consistently um yeah this thing works we we've kept these numbers pretty low you may recall from before 2017 those numbers were up to 15 to 18 days on average times for review so we've got those down you will notice that last year was a little higher than normal it's still well within our 21 days for our goal for reviewing projects but it increased slightly that's partly because of the number of projects but also some short staffing not only in our department but also Fire Marshals office and Engineering who also reviewer projects but double the amount of days from one year to the next yeah we had nice days and a set a five-year window yeah some of that had to do with some big projects for example Shannon is really one project but it's it's the equivalent of multiple uh projects I will note that one of the things that's that's not shown here when we talk about an average that means the average project is 12 days some are much quicker but some take longer and I know many of you all have heard from some of the folks that that for whom it's taken longer um I just want to note that those tend to be the rare ones um that you all end up hearing about because we process hundreds of permits and plans and projects every week and it's only the handful that take longer than our normal processes but again those are the ones that end up making your phone ring and we try to work those as best we can um and this is a similar look at residential plans for example our goal is for a three-day review we're at about 4.8 days or just under five days for

[0:16:32] reviewing those um again I think we're pretty confident that we're close to where we want to be part of that is just the volume uh that we've seen although as you'll see in a minute that volume is is decreasing a little bit similarly with planning projects that our our goal to meet the state law is a 30-day review we've got that under a week and so we're pretty happy about that and similarly with engineering projects reviews they're well within the 21 days that they that which is our goal for those reviews and it's it's really not on this slide but I'll point out that as we look to other cities there was some testimony in the state legislature about some bills that would require reduced review times for things like building permits and the complaints that were in the testimony before the legislature were talking about you know it should take weeks instead of months well we're already at weeks and our goal is to do it in a number of days and so compared to many of the cities around the state our processes are much quicker than many of them um I mentioned earlier the consultations those are where we meet with developers in a pre-development meeting before they even come in for an application you can see that the number of those have increased and we as we've encouraged uh projects and applicants to do that what we find is folks who come in and meet with us before their project have a much smoother process than folks who just come in and drop off an application because we are able to sit down with them and help set them through that process and answer some of their questions I think some of the biggest complaints people have about this is that when they have set up a meeting for example that all of the persons that need to be there are not there and so they don't get the answers that they need so there's not a sometimes the ability to get everybody from our

[0:18:37] planning Side Fire Marshal's site at that meeting so then the next time they meet different officials are there they weren't the same officials from the last meeting so there's contradiction contradictions between what was said in the first meeting versus what said in the second meeting and I think that's where the biggest complaints come from is the inconsistency when there's been more than one meeting or missing members of our team at that table and that's something we're we're focusing on right now is to ensure that if if the main decision maker is not there at the table that that information gets back to them and we get them that's one of the things our development services staff do is reach out to those other departments to get those answers and in fact for the development review committees we take notes that are sent to the applicant after the meeting to identify here's all the things that we told you here are the outstanding questions that we still need to resolve and that's partly to help address that concern of consistency so that we know what we told them the first meeting and so that we're not telling them something different when they leave that first meeting do they have a written document that describes what was just said and done because that's the other thing because it's not at the meeting but it comes to them after the fact because they then think that what again I I'm saying words for other people so I might not get it right but that there's inconsistencies from one meeting to the next and primarily because some of the individuals that needed to be there weren't there but then when those individuals are there there's contradictions between what was said in the first meeting and the second meeting it's very confusing to people because it's not what they do um I I I guess the the thing I would say about that is similar to the comment I made a minute ago I don't think that's the uh generally the situation with most of the meetings like that to be sure that's probably happened uh in the past um I would not call it a systemic issue

[0:20:41] that every time somebody comes in they get told something different later no I'm I don't think it is systemic but I do think that's something we are actively trying to reduce the number of or the frequency of that um this is just one example of an email we've received a few of these over the last six months but um again I know you guys get the the negative phone calls you don't necessarily always get the positive ones but this is from a an architect on a project uh basically commenting on the professionalism of our staff uh returning phone calls very quickly um and so just wanted to share this one example of a consultant for on a project that was very pleased with our process especially when compared to other cities where they work saying that our process was was better basically than than those other cities where they work and they wish that those other cities had our process so um we like to hear these kinds of compliments to our staff so here's just a quick overview of the development activity in the community these are the number of multi-family developments that we've had you can see Apartments go up and down some years we don't have any um this past year this current year we've had 36 we're seeing more duplexes you know you can see in 2019 and 20 we saw a lot of them this year we've only seen eight so far but we've gotten more interest in that you may recall from the housing study that was done one of the pieces that the housing study identified as missing is what what planners call the missing middle we get a lot of single-family homes we get a lot of large 200 unit apartment complexes we don't get those middle range of duplexes fourplexes but there's a big market demand for those and there's a lot of reasons why those aren't being built but we're starting to see more interest in

[0:22:44] town homes duplexes and those kinds of Apartments those 13 Apartments project behind Jim bass Ford and all that is on that in those apartments most likely yeah they're um in come based apart I think that's those and we do have some more that don't show up in these numbers that we know are coming uh as well their second project is the one out there by Sam's by Kohl's by the Boulevard Apartments right yeah um and these are just the number of single-family homes you can see we had a big uh increase there in 2020 over 700 single-family homes but we're typically pretty consistent at between 250 and 350 homes per year you can see this year we've had 78 which if if that Trend continued puts us on track for 199 for the year that's a little low but with the economy the way it is and interest rates that's not unexpected they said it's picking up so just lastly here is a kind of an overview of some of the recent updates and what we've got in progress I mentioned the downtown historic district that was just approved recently and you all approved the building codes some of the things that we've got in process you all had that joint meeting with the Planning Commission and one of the things you talked about was accessory dwelling units we promised that we would come back with some an alternative proposal on that we've been waiting because there's some bills in the legislature one of which just got voted down this this week two two that's right almost passed so we didn't want to bring something that would just immediately be overruled by the changes in state law but that should be coming pretty soon as as was mentioned earlier we were working on a Parkland dedication ordinance that will bring to you all sometime in the near future I think we've already discussed this with you all but a sign ordinance we talked about a sign ordinance committee got a number of names from from many of

[0:24:48] you so we've established that committee and we'll start meeting with them soon as you may recall the main reason we're looking at the sign ordinance is some recent Supreme Court decisions that make necessary changes needed for that sign ordinance and so we'll we'll reviewing that including some folks from some sign companies and other citizens on that committee we're looking at a landscape ordinance over the last few years we've done some research we had a preliminary draft a couple of years ago that's sort of just been waiting for the right time to uh to bring that forward forward and similarly I mentioned the bicycle plan we've got an update we've been working on a committee with the mpo public works planning as well as citizens from the bicycling community that have been on this committee looking at the bike plan and we're very close to having an update to that that we'll be able to bring forward for adoption you know one of the things that came up last time when we were talking about the bicycle plan were those streets in which we created a bicycle lane but were streets where the bicycle lane was but people parked in front of their house which would be on the bicycle lane so we got to make sure if we adopt a bicycle plan that we don't create bicycle plans that take away parking in front of the house with that bicycle lane because that's not going to work and that's something we've looked at in fact you all adopted an ordinance change a couple years ago that addressed that but it it actually doesn't go into effect until we've adopted the new bicycle plan and so as we look at whereabout facilities should go that's definitely something that that committee has looked at in addressing that particular issue we've got some other minor ordinance cleanups short-term rentals um a lot of those have been applied for recently yeah we've seen a lot of them and so one of the things that we're looking at is possibly an administrative process where staff could approve those

[0:26:51] if there's no neighbor opposition and if there's no been no complaints right now you not only have to get approval from the Planning Commission for a short-term rental you have to renew it every either one or two years and we also want to look at renewals being administrative by staff unless there have been complaints or other issues and that will help make that process smoother but also not interfering with the ability of neighbors to complain so if there is a neighbor complaint it would still have to go through a public process does the neighbor know that a a home is being submitted for a short-term rental just similar to a zoning case we notify all the properties within 200 feet that a short-term rental is being proposed for that location how does that differ from Airbnb there's no short-term rental is an Airbnb evrbo any of those and in fact uh finance department has recently or is actually in the middle of an audit finding short-term rentals that may be out there uh you know advertised on Airbnb that aren't registered with the city aren't paying hotel tax and so as part of that we're coordinating with them and identifying short-term rentals that um are operating but haven't gotten their proper approvals that's one of the reasons we've seen an uptick in those applications is because some of those folks have started getting those letters saying hey you need to register with the city and so many of them are coming in to do that we also want to look at building setbacks and lot coverage we have some rules that we often get home builders developers having issues with the building setbacks and as we look and compare with the trends around the country we think ours may our ordinances may be a little stricter than they need to be and so we want to look at addressing that the other bill that I think was I'm not sure the status of it

[0:28:56] Bill 1787 maybe that was of concern relative to building and neighborhoods specifically I'll read it and want to know where we stand on it because mayor I think that you may be thinking of the Senate Bill 1787 which I believe was the Adu that was defeated now the one that was defeated was Bill 1412. that was the house bill I think well the Senate Bill 1412. okay okay was defeated by the house by two voters who votes right what hasn't come up is the Senate Bill 1787 I think so I've been not notified that it has been uh yeah I haven't I haven't tracked 1787 yeah so and Drew was going to alert us of that one so looks like that bill is relating to the size and density requirements for residential lots of that again it says relating to the size and density requirements for residential lots yeah let me look at the status is it moving Theresa yeah because as of today I mean I will I drew is going to alert me and he alerted me on the 1412 so I know what happened there I just haven't heard about this one I talked to him earlier in the week I'm sure as you did on the 1412 and he didn't bring up 1787 at that point so yeah the last history noted is that on May 23rd it was placed on the General State calendar so it hasn't been heard apparently hasn't even been hurt and nice to have a few days left and we're following all of those related bills the state Planning Association as well as tml follow all of those so we get regular updates and like I said earlier that that's one of the reasons some of these ordinance changes we're looking at were holding off on in case there's a change in in state law and then so finally the

[0:31:00] long-range planning and projects we've talked a couple of times here today about possible update to the city's comprehensive plan we've also recently had some discussions about updating the zoning ordinance I'll mention that there is a new state grant program that is available for updating the city's plan as well as the zoning ordinance no matching required up to three hundred thousand dollars um a couple of issues with it number one in order to get the funds for a zoning ordinance you have to have a comprehensive plan or land use plan that has been updated in the past five years which ours does not so we wouldn't qualify for that Grant unless we use it to both update the plan as well as the zoning ordinance the other issue that we have to work out is the timing um if I won't get into the complicated but basically you have two years within which to go through the whole process and adopt both the plan and the zoning ordinance otherwise you don't get the money and so we would want to make sure we're we have a process identified that could happen through adoption within that two years otherwise we might lose that entire Grant elevation you know I've brought up several times a day but I just want to keep hitting on it I don't like things sitting on the shelves and we do a lot of that um this strategic plan from 2009 was really well done with lots of community input and I think we owe it to ourselves to go through this and go through the vision Plan before we look at the city's comprehensive plan make sure that this 2009 update is inclusive is it because it you don't realize it is when you read the label on the package but part of it is in here but but this you know for me the issue is comprehensive plans are great they're meant for big bold statements long term the future of the city sometimes they

[0:33:03] don't get into specifics enough because they are big bold broad long-term plans but when we have a update a vision plan that goes with that comprehensive plan I think we need to make sure we've paid attention and worked hard to adopt adapt the vision plan into reality mayor I would I would also offer as food for thought for Council we've got more than several areas of town that are in growth mode we've heard about the North and the East we've heard about the the West coming Southwest that were probably not really a part of that 2003 or 2009 Vision Plan update and just as one council member I would be in favor if if you would need to pursue quickly simultaneously however you do it both the updating the comprehensive plan and the zoning ordinance just as one council member and if we had to then task staff to perhaps look at supplementing uh Grant funds to to get those done in my opinion that that's future planning we're looking at the convergence at some point in time of two interstates intersecting in this community um that area of town out there if if we're if I am doing my job as a council member I am thinking longer term about the growth of those areas for future councils it's not going to affect this Council really but to lay some plans in place so I would be in favor of updating both our comprehensive plan and our zoning ordinance and I'll just add on to that you mentioned the the cost I just want to be clear that 300 000 would probably not cover both a plan and a zoning ordinance so um it would require some commitment of

[0:35:04] funds and I don't think we'd have to do it all in one budget year either would we John if and now now to get the grant yes we we would but if if if the city had to supplement that we could do that over a couple of budget years we wouldn't have to do it all in one budget year absolutely we did a similar process when I was in Abilene and in fact we stretched it over three budget years the process really only took two years but we stretched it over three so that we could pull funds out of three separate budget years to help spread that cost out so that's definitely doable I'm I'm in favor of I'll say this to you Daniel I'm in favor of pursuing an update to the comprehensive and the zoning ordinance it's all I had unless you all have more questions no but mayor if you don't want but when we go when we go down that path there's certain parts of town that this applies to and certain one there's a dozen and this goes back to conversation ad with Michael Dan and Rick in 2017 or 18. as you look at some zoning some of it applies and some of it doesn't and on the north edge of town I mean there are some requirements that come in that sure effect is that are not applicable to what we have but I just want us to be cognitive as we go through it's not all is the same Encompass everything there are different parts of town and that's that's what's going to make that probably spread out over budget years is we'll address this side and that but I just don't want to see a blanket comes in that somebody's going to have to fall in line with when it doesn't even nearly apply well you're right Tom it's one of the things that we talked about when we started the Enfield program in the Lakeview area is that there's certain areas that we need to support an infill program in order to continue to develop them and they have are areas that quote can be different income levels different size a lots level different pricing of homes not all low not all areas all locations are meant for every citizen people choose to live and raise a family in some specific

[0:37:09] areas and the rules and the flexibility needs to go with those districts or those areas Marin I do want to point out that there of course would be public forums that you'd have Town Hall meetings you'd have input from citizens in those areas as well and we definitely would take all that into consideration as we develop a plan as well so again that's a good point uh Tom I hate to admit uh but um [Music] it's the same Blue Ribbon it goes back to that okay but no there's a there's a way for us to make sure that all that is is accounted for and of course have that input as well so uh absolutely y'all are all correct I mean it'd be it'd be it'd be great if we actually did come up with a plan that actually helped us to kind of customize to the needs of those areas so that's exactly what we get out of this yeah and one of the issues as it relates to Tommy's comment about the interstates coming through here is that um until we have started the planning and Engineering of those interstates we don't have the direct routes that they're going to be taking so a comprehensive plan cannot necessarily incorporate all of that right now because the planning and the engineering and the buying of property to execute those interstates we're not at that level we do believe in this current as of yesterday in the current legislative session in the transportation committee not commission that they approved the funding for the planning and Engineering of what we call segment three of the i-27 corridor we asked for planning and Engineering monies for segment one segment two and segment three are the entire segment we did not have support from our local elected officials for Segment two or segment one to do that but there was support and a vote to come

[0:39:13] up with the money for the planning and engineering sharing of segment three which is from Sonora to Laredo that is the most crucial area for the interstate because it's the the most important areas coming out of Laredo in the most difficult part of building that interstate from a geographical perspective as well as the conditions of those current roads will require the most amount of money of the entire Interstate Corridor and so that money has been set aside for that segment three or we believe it's being set aside for Segment three so part of that trying to plan around the interstate right now from a conceptual perspective is correct but even from a logistics perspective we don't have that route totally worked out as well as a reliever route we have designated the reliever route in terms of going from point A to point B conceptually but we've not even laid out exactly that route so we don't even know which lands will need to be acquired the angle the direction Etc so some of that is so preliminary it would be hard to to put into comprehensive plan right now although we know it's coming but we're not there yet and none of the planning documents have been created it could be that not everybody knows Ural would you put that hat on and introduce yourself for the well I am Brenda Gunter I am the mayor of the city of San Angelo but I'm the treasurer of the Porsche Plains committee but I'm also the i-27 advisory committee president or chairman and so we presented yesterday to the Transportation Commission not the committee the commission reports to planes strategy behind the i-27 corridor and the importance of it and we had we

[0:41:18] were the only city the only group really that came forward and made some very strong points towards a Transportation Commission on the importance of the i-27 corridor and so thank you it's nice to meet you

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