City Council Budget Workshop - Enterprise Funds

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[0:03:08] welcome back to city council our first uh Enterprise fund budget meeting uh it is 9:59 we'll call at 10 a.m. and we will call this meeting to order our itinerary starts with discussion of matters regarding the fiscal year 2024 2025 budget prep operation including but not limited to one Enterprise funds Revenue expenditures and you're on with May yes ma'am Tina Dari Director of Finance um today we'll go through our major um Enterprise operating funds and we'll start out like you said with the water fund water sales is projected to increase by a half a million dollars um rates are not increasing but there is an expected increase in consumption other is up mostly due to an increase in interest income but there were some increases for Lake use revenue and transfers in for billing and collections in Costa DC as well um and on the expenditure side Personnel is up mostly due to increases in our tmrs and workers comp rates there is a decrease to transfers out um to capital projects fund of $3.2 million for the meter replacement program that's off offset by some increases in Contract Services and there's a corresponding increase in capital projects where we count for the meter replacement program I will start by asking one question because I get a lot of phone calls and I know everyone else does how are we on water Shane do we have the water we need and give us some information in terms of what you think's going to happen in the next few months yes ma'am now we're um actually and of course we're going to get our new um at the end of the month um here at the end of June 1st of July we will get our new numbers from uh the Colorado River Municipal Water District on Lake Ivy lake iy has actually caught

[0:05:12] some water and so um about 22 23,000 acre feet the last time that I checked on it um and so that that is helping us out back in April uh the last time that we ran the numbers we were at 30 um was that 32 months of water supply so of course it's starting to get low but it's it's nowhere near our triggers uh to go into our um drought contingency plans and so uh that starts at 24 months and so again we are starting to you know start seeing the declines we have not seen any water or any appreciable runoff in Twin butes or OC Fisher or any of the rest of the Lakes it's just primarily been Lake Ivy and so uh but again visiting with I did visit with the Colorado River Municipal Water District the other day and they thought that of course their their timeline for the lake um to run out of water to be able to pump water out of the lake was October one September late last of September 1st of October of 25 uh which is right around the corner uh they thought that that would definitely push well in with the runoff that they we have seen so far in Lake Alby that would definitely push us well into 26 uh for the before we would run out of water in Lake iy so again looking good there uh we are with the well filled expansion uh when we finalize that project this late summer early fall that will that will allow us to be able to pump up to 12 million gallons a day versus the 8 million where we were before so again we will be able to uh utilize more of the Hickory water if it becomes necessary again we don't necessarily want to use that water as it's more expensive to treat and put into the system but again it will be available U by this fall if if we if we have to rely on it but again right now we're um it's it's we're not in great shape but we're we're not um we're not raising raising the red flags and and and worrying too hard yet so well I hate to bring this up but I know this morning on the news they talked about a little

[0:07:14] hurricane being developed off the coast of that we Texas so we know that generally hurricane season off that Coast can bring some substantial rains and not just two points or three points worth of rain yep Y and so and that has been uh everything west of here has been you know minimal as far as rain we haven't had any of those big rains it's been you know maybe an inch or half an inch here and an inch there inch and a half maybe so again really haven't seen that runoff back to the West we have seen it from here to uh like I said Lake Ivy but again we're uh tropical weather is our um that is where we actually see the see the big rains where we will where we get the running water and we can fill up our reservoirs so we're definitely hoping for that again so this fall well we also remind everybody that the reason we don't want to use Hickory Aqua for water at this point is because evaporation is a killer and we want to use our surface water first which is lthy and the other lake so we we lose a lot to evaporation and we want to use it before it all goes up in the air that is correct so no but we're again we're we're not we're not in we're not in our Straits yet but again we're we are praying for rain okay you're on sorry questions from Council on this first slide so the 500,000 in new sales in sales you believe is increased I think I'm ringing a little bit can you hear me without it ringing so it's 500,000 in because of development in new homes is it current use what are you projecting Shan yes ma'am we're we're predicting it you just looking how we're trending over sales over the P actually the we looked at the past three or four five years and actually how we've been trending over over that amount of time and kind of

[0:09:17] looking at what we're projecting next year primarily is due to growth in the city uh we're starting to see um our numbers rise a little bit uh in water you know in water sales and water consumption kind of seeing that same effect on the Wastewater side as well um as as far as what we're seeing going coming into the plant and so it it is due to growth we're starting to see some growth due to home more homes and uh and actually population growth so again we're um we were pretty conservative on our number this year as we are looking at the at the dry conditions and the and the drought conditions uh going luckily we did have a wet spring and so we haven't seen water cells really at this Point um in the year but again uh as we're looking forward into the next year without any major rainfall and we if we did have to go into you know drought contingency levels we wanted to we wanted to be very conservative with those numbers moving into this next year and then on the other line you want to go back through the $859,900 increase and exactly what that entails it's mostly increased due to interest income uh let's see 600 65,000 of that is interest income um there's some increase from the interest from fund 640 the lake nasworthy trust fund and that equates to about a $112,000 increase um there's an increase in transfers in from the Development Corporation to cover the Fort Stockton holding rights agreement that's $59,000 um and then some increases in Billing and collections of about $32,000 Lake use Reven increase of about $889,000 so all of those combined make up that Shane you want to talk about the cono River Project and where we're at on that project yes ma'am we're uh working again working with our Consultants on that uh currently we've um we are waiting on our bed bed and Banks permit uh through the tcq currently for it to

[0:11:20] go through review come back to us uh and once we get once we get that then of course we have to go through all the processes with that once we to finalize the permit once permits finalized then we can actually start design and construction documents moving forward so again still in a holding pattern uh waiting for that permit okay questions or comments from Council for Shane okay so um move forward on the Water Reclamation fund or the sewer fund also projecting increased consumption there um in the amount of about $362,000 and that other line again is mostly increased um due to interest income but there also some increases in farm use Revenue um and then on the expenditure side up there again um you'll see that throughout the presentation that Personnel will be up due to the increase to tmrs and workers comp rates and then onm is increase um of transfers out to his capital projects fund a question I get from people is the following or a question I get from people so if you use 10,000 gallons of water but that water is primarily used let's say not household use but it's your swimming pool or your irrigation we don't separate and don't have the ability to separate the those uses from just household use where sewage would be a piece of that unlike irrigation unlike swimming pool evaporation it still uses a lot of water yes ma'am and the only we do have a few homeowners that do actually have a separate irrigation meter at their residence that is separated off uh that's the only that's the only way that we actually are able to get that separated but most homes it it is that way and so we calculate sewer based on averages in the winter months not the summer months so we don't uh we're actually looking at it uh from that perspective trying to make sure

[0:13:23] that we're not accounting their sewer rates as part of irrigation and and those other things or filling up swimming pools those type things that we don't use that as the part of the calculation and the sewer rate announcements there to make because that people don't always understand that and I think we need to make sure publicly as you just did how we do it yes ma'am yeah okay thank you question questions yes question Tommy I know you have talked to us in the past about just inflation and increasing prices on everything just in general just you don't have to do anything specific but just in general what are your costs increasing year-over-year now in um water and uh waste water yeah uh chlorine still uh is the biggest driver in our inflation um on in the treatment processes um and it it continues to rise we're not uh we haven't been able to lock in a chlorine contract in a long time those guys uh we're having to constantly you know re bid those numbers uh annually if sometimes not not more because a lot of times we'd always put in uh the contract plus plus 4% or whatever and uh it's it's been far exceeding 4% for the last 3 or four years um and so from an increase and so that's one of our biggest drivers we have seen some other um other chemicals that we use that we're we're seeing some increases on uh but those have been we use them in a lot less volume so it hasn't been as hard on us there but um again again that we're we're seeing a 5 to 10% increase pretty easy some well we've had some years where we saw 50 and 100% increases um on those chemicals but this year um it's we're not predicting it to be as bad this year and so kind of looking at that probably a 10% increase unless uh something happens so okay thank you I I know we we tend to overlook in my opinion anyway over overlook the fact

[0:15:29] that they're in their price increases in the municipal world just like there are in everybody else's world yes I mean it's like well you know why can't you do it for what you did it last year and year before so yeah thank you yes sir you know we're L you the good news bad news is the following the good news is we're getting higher interest rates so our interest is building the bad news is it costs money to borrow money yes ma' and um higher than it's been but over the past year we or two years ago we were not receiving additional income based off of uh interest and you'll see from the previous slide and this slide there's some significant dollars being accumulated based off of interest on the money ma'am it's it's helping other questions or comments for Shane okay move on to okay next up is the storm water fund um fee Revenue here is actually projected slightly up due to expected growth other is other income is also up due to interest income um and then on the expenditure side um Personnel is up mostly to those increases in tmrs and workers comp and omm is up due to increases and indirect cost vehicle maintenance and tools questions on storm water seeing none no comment continue Solid Waste fund is next um user fees are projected to increase due to the residential and Commercial contract fees and also landfill fees other income is up mostly due to interest income Personnel up just slightly there and O andm is down to a decrease in budgeted permitting costs excuse me asso associated with the new landfill site um and

[0:17:32] then it is offset by an increase to transfers out for billing and overhead questions comments on the solid waste fund hearing none move on next up is the airport fund the primary revenue source for the airport fund continues to be lease income leases are up uh up a little bit for next year there's also increase to the concessions car rental account um which is offset some by a decrease in rental income other income is up again due to interest income projections excuse me Personnel is up just slightly um for omm there's an increase in general ground maintenance and insurance which is also offset by decrease to our local match requirement for the tech stock Grant um the remainder of the budget goes to the capital account to help with projects as they come up throughout the year at the airport Jeremy could you come forward welcome morning good morning you want to talk about the car rental the new car rental that will be starting soon it has started mayor started because there have been so many complaints over the past year about lack of car rental so you want to talk about that yeah we now have uh brever Capital Group which is her Thrifty um the the doors are open they were having reduced Services while they were trying to get vehicles but they are fully stocked now um and they're looking at building a car wash station to improve that area out there so they are there for the final the last flight of the night the doors are open so people are able to come and get cars and Avis is still selling out and and Herz is able to fill that Gap great all right so then my next question is talk about um end plane and uh how many are we filling the planes are we not filling the planes what's going on with uh passenger levels

[0:19:36] we're still filling the planes our load factors are still in the 80 to 90% range um however they have reduced capacity um they're down to three flights a day instead of the six we used to have um three in and three out three in and three out yep so we're our implements are slowly decreasing we're down to about 55,000 in payments for the year um next year's projections I did meet with American and they're not projecting to increase our flights usually in the summer months is when you'd see the flight increase to the four we didn't see the four um and I've got the schedule through August and we still only have the three flights and then the taxi way where are we on being able to get the uh extension of the taxi way for Hangar development um South taxi land is still under consideration um the mod to standard is with the region the region has kind of put a stop to it for now because want to cut it back to 35 ft wide taxiway instead of the 50 ft as our master plan suggests with our Design Group so um we are working with them um to try and get it if we have to go 35 ft to stick to the standards we'll do it uh but we do prefer the 50 ft but we really prefer having that taxi way extended it needs to be done our number one goal it needs to be done and if it if it's 35 ft to meet fa design standards and that that's what it's going to have to be but we're we're working with them to get the best uh product we can for the available grant money and I think we should but I know one thing we need hangers yes people there's a huge demand for hangers we want to get this done it's been a conversation for quite a while so I respect the desire based off of a master plan to be 50 ft but we need hangers developed out there yeah yeah I agree and the the only restriction is if we cut it down to 35 ft we could be cutting some of those tenants that want to build out because we won't have the same wingspan capacities that we would with a 50ft wide taxi way so we don't want to limit oursel on our ability to grow but we also need we do need the taxi Lane is there a possibility of having part of it

[0:21:38] 50 ft and the other part 35 so where you had the larger hangers if you first entered that hanger area it could be wider and then it goes down to a narrow as you get to the smaller hangers is that possible um not with Federal funding with our current conversation again we're working that to try and get it approved through the region um but no not not the way that the the they the fa does it based off your airport Design Group we're in airport Design Group three um which is 50 foot wide taxiways it's a 35 foot wide taxi Lane fa is very strict on standards so we're trying to get a mod to the standard to allow for a 50ft wide taxiway plus a reduced spec and a tech stop mix um so we can get it funded so where are we on that process halfway there not anywhere I I keep saying we're right to the Finish Line um but it's it's been held up for the region for quite some time now um we did talk to them earlier this week and they're still working with they're now taking it to Washington DC um just to to try and get the 50 Foot approved but right now it's really being held up with that 35 ft so I don't know I don't know the answer is being held up because they want 35 and we want 50 right yes yeah then we're we're not using fa entitlement money we're not using discretionary money we're using our our bill money um that's awarded and allotted to us in my opinion we should be able to use that for what our need is but the fa is trying to reduce the amount we're going to spend on this so that we can use the rest of that money for the taxi way reconfiguration to taxi Way hotel so they're strategic in in their funding mechanisms but I don't think we're going to get the best product for our money if we just let it go okay questions for Jeremy I assume back to the American just just a and I assume Americans getting per seat mile what what they want or need or in excess of and they're not going to they're not going to reduce their rates um no no and that was my conversation with them

[0:23:40] because they are they are getting the value out of it people are paying it the the the seats are filling up we do have a pilot shortage that's the biggest that's what they keep bringing up it's the biggest problem U the pilot shortage is really reducing the amount of aircraft that are able to come in so that that's the biggest challenge right now was pilot shortage and no competition in St Angelo American has the market oh we've got one sitting right here we can put him to work hold on thank you Jeremy yeah yes Tom Jeremy we we spent a lot of time last week going over a lot of things lur don't touch the button all right thank you man we were both in the switch we went over a lot of things last week talking about the future the momentum what what creates growth within our system and I think it's important to know that we discussed moving forward with Hangar development Hangar contracts you could build these hangers knowing that at least one side of the taxi way is going to complement it that won't change the the 35 and the 50 F feet is on the other side I mean I just want to stress to you I think it's important that you go ahead and move down that path like BR said is is if we have the ability to go forward and and get those hangers started there's there's VC money there's there's things we can do to go ahead and start the momentum there and on top of that you talked about the I'm glad to see the increases in the leases because I think we get what we pay for and then some and I think as it boils back down to and as we get the sewer system and the water fixed out there that's probably going to be the largest growth in the next 10 years is going to come from that side of the bridge I just think it's super important to go ahead and go down that path if we can do the hangers if we can start and I Know It All hinges on the taxiway there's so many elements involved here that people that aren't aware of about the concrete spec the

[0:25:44] asphalt you know the fact that local people won't build to that spec they just said it cost too much for the change and we're not going to accommodate that so that number has gone tenfold what we thought the original budget was and and those things are very disheartening to hear but I think we're on the right path um and and I'll ST stick with the Brandon anytime we can start moving forward with whatever we can we'll chase the money we'll chase the grants we'll chase the funding and go forward you've got I would imagine um unlimited support from Council great thank you I also want to bring up the subject that um about uh budget Airlines or low cost Airlines um Airlines might not fly into the major markets but fly into some secondary markets do we have people calling us saying hey we want to talk to you about bringing Airline service to S Angelo that might fly to Las Vegas might fly to Phoenix might fly to Oklahoma City Etc do are we getting those phone calls is there anyone viable out there who would be interested Ed in having that conversation um we're not getting those phone calls but I think those conversations can be had um after the direction from you I am talking to an air service development contractor but prior to co I came in and said we're having record-breaking years in Air Service people are buying tickets they're flying out we've broken records this year um from preco numbers so people are flying um the the legacies are are making their money with the high price ticket I mean they're high price tickets everywhere and the lowcost carriers that you're talking about are making significant money um with the lowcost droughts but they're a point-to-point destination and I think we do have a good dog in that fight a good conversation to be had with them um for a lowcost carrier to Flat of San Angelo but that that comes from us

[0:27:46] they're not calling us we need to seek them um the concern with them is they like minimum Revenue guarantees they like cash up front they want some type of a commitment but I am working with an their service velopment um guide to to work that out okay yep thank you um other questions for Jeremy Larry a very minor question it's good to see the increase there in leases and concessions but how much are you losing every month with the uh uh restaurant that's not open uh it's about 30 thou not every month every year it's about 30,000 that that restaurant's not open any nibbles uh yeah yeah we got a few interested the restaurant is not in great shape um the floor is it's it's an old restaurant that when we did the 2016 remodel the fa didn't contribute any money towards that portion of the building um so once we moved all the grills and cookers we saw what was underneath them and the floor is deteriorating it it needs some work so there's two individuals I'm talking to that want to come in and put some capital investment into the restaurant um but we're not there yet we're getting close you know the issue with um restaurants is number one you make money if you have traffic you got to have bodies and when you only have three flights in and three flights out you don't have a lot of bodies there number one and you can't make money if you don't have a lot of volume but second of all the success of Airport Restaurant generally is building a big enough reputation that people come out there not because they're flying out but because you have great food and that's one of the things that was so successful with the Chinese restaurant before is people went out there to eat at the Chinese restaurant um they had a great reputation and it didn't matter people weren't flying in or out they were out there having lunch and we need to make sure that the person persons considering leasing understand building a reputation to bring in um traffic that's not generated just by flyers or

[0:29:51] people waiting for flights to come in or out okay other questions or comments for Jeremy let's get those taxi Lane built okay thank you our big objective yeah all right the development cor Economic Development Fund Michael I'll get him started and then if you'all have any questions I'll pass the Baton to him and of course the Development Corporation is primarily funded through the type B sales tax 28% of which is allocated for economic development initiatives staff is proposing sales tax at a 3% decrease from FY 24's projected year end um this will be up updated in line with whatever we adopt for the general fund budget um other here includes rent and interests and the projected increase is due to rental income interest we have reviewed since we U made this presentation and we will be uh updating that number to reflect a $232,000 increase to interest income okay and on the expenditure side there's a slight decrease to Personnel um this budget includes uh uh funding for three positions for next year for the Economic Development Corporation partner affiliations decreased just slightly um omm decreased because of a decrease in indirect cost which was largely due to less activity and work and support required of City staff and departments future projects of course is what will be available for um opportunities as they come up throughout next year okay so on the issue of um future projects does that include the 29th Street is that the 29th Street project we've been waiting 10 years for NO MA'AM all of the um ballot projects that were approved by the voters have already been funded are accounted for in our capital projects fund on the city Side okay as it relates to leases I think there was a line that's inclusive

[0:31:55] of leases of the availability of the available space for leases at the spdc building what's vacant and what are we doing to try to fill the vacancies I think we have somebody coming in and we don't have any more vacancies at this point that's what we want to hear the the lease rates are very low obviously designed to stimulate uh activity help those people get started and spin off into uh bigger better location okay questions or comments for Michael yes Tom so when we look at Michael when we look at the revenue or the budget for future products projects what's unused at the end of the year what happens to those projects that funding if something goes unused by the end of the year does it carry over dollarwise not projectwise if it's both if it's money set aside for a project and the Project's not complete we carry that money forward in that project line and it continues to be available for that project in this case future projects is monies that are not yet designated for projects in this budget cycle in addition to that money we have fund balance monies that could be brought to the table if we had a project so if we reach the end of the year and we haven't used money in future projects it goes to fund balance and then can be brought back out we can draw fund mounts you see where we do that in other earlier today when we bought software part of that payment was because they had accumulated money in fund balance and they wanted to use part of that fund balance for that project be the same way kosad DC that fund balance could be used for a future project um this is just the uh excess of Revenue over other expenditures in this year that's exactly what I wanted to know thank you Michael other questions comments for Michael okay moving

[0:34:00] on okay moving on to CDC ballot side of course 72% of the type B sales tax goes for uh the ballot side which was used to fund um like I said voter approved projects but also then the remainder would go to long-term water supply um so we are again projecting sales tax up there at almost $370,000 based on the same philosophy as the ecod dev side um that'll be updated as as well other includes interest on this one and it will be updated to reflect a $193,000 increase affordable housing Remains the Same for the ballot uh while water has increased for the Fort Stockton water rights agreement onm decreased because of a decrease in debt transfers and then future projects again here is what's available for projects as they come up and the ballot is the um the future projects ballot is the 29th Street or is that still on that other line that that's in fund 502 capital projects on the city side and there is a budget there for that in that other fund yeah okay any other questions or comments moving on all right moving on to the hotel occupancy tax fund fy2 hotel tax revenues are budgeted at FY 24 projected year end with a 5% decrease at just under $3 million for next next year um hotel tax and interest income are trending upward next year and we budgeted flat with the previous year for expenditures um according to the original budget from last year and we'll have a breakdown of those expenditures on the next slide okay so here is what we have funded in the past um all of those again remaining flat for next year um the rail Railway Museum right there at the bottom has a to be determined amount only because it was not included in last year's original budget but that's up for council's discussion and direction to fund that as well for next year uh we do have the

[0:36:03] funding there and available if that if you should choose to do so explain that because we did approve the 25,000 yes ma'am we did and it it wasn't approved until after the original budget was adopted and so because it wasn't in the original budget we're comparing Apples to Apples here but you brought it back then October and we approved it yes ma'am so it was in the revised budget so what so then explain this so I just need direction to include it in this year's original budget and that way it can be on this slide from now on good okay um also I want to point out here that um sack St Angelo cultural Affairs council is going through some changes with their organization um we're working through the um the contract and the details of all of that with our City attorney and with that organization but we've included a placeholder here of the $75,000 that we usually give them and we'll come back to council at a future meeting and discuss how to move forward with that program all right and Rick you're working on some potential plans for um how we would manage yeah we can talk about that we've done it in a variety of ways over the history used to the city reviewed those but now it's then they contracted out with this group because there were so many but now it's become more standardized as to what you're doing so we can discuss how we want to do that whether we want to pull it in house and then y'all can allocate those funds or yes we'll look at some options okay Harry before we get off this slide do we need to give you some direction on the ra M seeum well we just answered a question do you want it included in the budget for next year and we said yes okay I just want to make sure said that okay yeah that's all I need yeah that that'll do it already said that okay um any more discussion on hotel tax or where we I know a lot of people are here today uh prepared to make some presentations and the question mark is

[0:38:06] the following do we want to hear everyone's presentation because I think people are prepared to present today that works for me mayor after this I have only one more fund the Civic events fund so we could do that now and then move on to the Civic events fund if we should do that so it's not required so if you're if you aren't coming forward with a uh pre presentation it's okay but if you spent the time to create a presentation um we are inviting you to do so today so we'll start with saac um would you like to come forward and present um how the money was used this year or what you're planning to use the money for in the 2425 budget thank you mayor city council City staff um stay back we really appreciate the uh hot funds we get every year it helps us try to promote uh our events uh throughout not just San Angelo and the cona Valley but as far west as Odessa Midland North as leuk East to Ken Waco and then down to Del Rio and even Fredericksburg and San Antonio and over the past year we've seen a lot of success um with people traveling to St Angelo for of the shows that we've had so we've you know we' like to believe we've made San Angelo a great stop along people's Journeys through West Texas and we see ourselves as uh contributing to the city being the gem of West Texas and if you can be anywhere and enjoy the Arts this is a place to be and uh we use the funds uh to help cover the cost of advertising to those uh different locations as well as bringing in some of uh shows to uh SAC one thing that we've done though differently from last year to this year and going forward is we've reduced the number of shows that we present ourselves because as cost as everyone kind of we've discussed here with inflation and uh doing business has increased so we focus a lot more on

[0:40:09] rentals so the goal is to help more National promoters bring their shows through St Angelo and consider us in uh routing their tours if they're going through West Texas if they're coming through Dallas to uh San Antonio we even going as far south as macallen Texas and we've seen seen some success with that we've increased the number of um promoters that we've been dealing with over the past year and we've also encouraged local promoters to use our venues too to uh bring in their shows to uh support the Arts here so we really appreciate it um uh we couldn't do what we do without your support thank you thank you very much destination marketing organization good morning good morning thank you for having us here today I'm sorry I didn't prepare a uh an electronic version for you but just to kind of give you an update on where we are now uh 2024 as we have started out we have seen large increases in large groups for the fiscal year 2024 uh with that some of those new groups that we talked about last year I know that that was a big discussion Point uh theic americ Society civil engineers they brought in 750 people in April the Canadian Royal Air Force which helps Mr valgardson uh as well spent the entire month of February here uh we had the American Legion here during the month of February as well or March for their Regional convention so we've seen a lot of large groups come in and and that has helped us with 3,000 hotel rooms here in town I think that we're seeing the revenues come up which is uh in 2020 3 we saw record-breaking numbers even preco numbers uh for Revenue uh occupancy is still a little low we understand that I noticed April's occupancy was down it it was a little bit lower than than uh what 2023 is uh

[0:42:13] April occupancy was and I'm not really sure exactly why that was uh especially having that large group here essentially for the week uh with asce that that's a little concerning um but March was down this year and two months in a row it's been down well April came back up from March March was a little lower got last week from our uh from the state of Texas showed it down okay well my St reports the the star reports the short the excuse me the uh co-star reports Smith travel reports that we get uh were showing that April had come back up uh still occupancy is still a little bit low but the revar and the overall average daily rate uh has climbed hold on I'll let you take a look at no no you're fine fine I'll find my note here but you just keep on talking well at the beginning of the year a marketing workshop marketing plan Workshop was held uh and during that the entire marketing plan was revamped recreated uh with that we came out with Cowboys and creatives that takes our cultural heritage along with the as Yuki just mentioned uh the visual artarts and and all of the Arts that we have here in the city uh and combine those two put them together and it's created a great Buzz out there you've seen our advertisements uh have obviously changed quite a bit uh no more kayaks on the river uh we are we are branching out and going beyond that just to be very specific so and accommodations we got 2,652 this year compared to last year's 2772 okay yes ma'am so a decrease of 4.3 4.3 yes ma'am understood so occupancy is is is something that we're always struggling with here in St Angelo I don't it it roughly hovers around 60% and that's that's a a something that I'm not really happy with something that I'd want to change obviously well you know if you look at history and I'm big on history

[0:44:17] as you know yes ma'am so the destination marketing organization used to be called the convention Visitors Bureau for the focus was on convention and visitors to our town who booked hotel rooms so the hotel tax was very much directed by that yes ma'am and we need to make sure that we continue to focus on filling hotel rooms not on sponsorships of events in our town where hotel rooms aren't booked right we've got to find the PATH forward to get people from out of town booking their conventions in our town to build up that because it is a tough struggle when you're looking at one hotel room at a time yes ma'am it's very hard yes ma' and so it's got to be on how do we focus our marketing to bring in first and foremost conventions and understanding the size of convention that we can handle because I know that there's challenges as it relates to breakout spaces Etc yes ma'am but there is a market for a certain level of people yes and so it's got to be a focus on who are those what are they how do we get them and small to medium is our that's that's kind of been our focus is is those smaller groups are those medium groups go up to about 500 people uh and that is a you know again it could be as as you witnessed last year the Texas A&M forestry service when they were here for a day uh it was a small group roughly 200 uh but that 200 will rotate back in and come back in years from now we hope uh they have to go on a fiveyear rotation throughout the state and a lot of the organizations do so yes yes and that that's what we'll see even with the asce as well is they will bounce uh from ASU to another school and then will likely come back here again uh at some point in time they had a great time while they were here so that that again we can get them here we can entertain them right absolutely we got get them here and we got to get them in our hotels and we've got to focus on the marketing of St Angelo to get them here how do we do it unless about sponsorships because sponsorships don't bring hotel rooms agreed um our average today as I mentioned earlier our average

[0:46:22] daily rate comparisons are up which is great uh that is demand driven and we know that that has to do with inflation at all so from that standpoint our hotel are are seeing an increase uh in their average daily rate and their revenue per available rental has also gone up even from 2023 so even with the lower levels of occupancy the average daily rate being higher and the revenue per available rental being higher tells us that they're they're booking the rooms where they need to book those rooms and and getting them at the rates that they need we want our hotels to be successful absolutely absolutely um so just to give you an idea I know last year there was some discussion about the um uh the tracking software that we use um daty has already identified just a few things for us and it and it has about a 3 to four week lag time on it so just to give you all a little bit of a heads up here uh in 2023 there were 3.1 million trips made to the city of sangel and this is outside of a 50 m radius so anything outside of 50 mies is is where this starts and it runs out to 2,600 Mi so I mean it it goes a great distance uh those visitors stayed for an average of 1.9 days which is down about .1% from the two days that they stayed the year year before uh this got late checkouts in other words instead of a late checkout they had to leave at 11: so uh in 2024 we've seen just so far uh a little over 1.1 million trips to the city of St Angelo using those same metrics uh to 2.2 million visitor days for an average of 1.9 visit uh day excuse me 1.9 days per stay that's a little over 333 total 333,000 total unique visitors to the city of St Angelo uh just in this part of the year and again it has about a 3 to four week lag so we're seeing the end of April 1 of May uh in our data FY analytics now and I think that that will continue to grow as we go um as you all saw and probably

[0:48:25] have heard we are the best destination for arts and culture voted as People's Choice which was fantastic uh as to speak to Yuki's point that that is a selling point for us um we are also we were also voted the best Visitor Center in Texas on the 20th anniversary of The Visitor Center being open so thank you for that uh with that being opened we we were able to be to to be awarded that this year and uh we're we're GL we're glad to have that relocated yes it is beautiful facility and I said it at the luncheon but I think it's true that our volunteers the 15 people that that staff that place every single day uh are the reason that we won that best Visitor Center it's a great facility but the people inside of it that extend that Hospitality are the ones that helped us Garner that award I hear from visitors to our town a lot of positives about the volunteers in the visor Center so um I hear it a lot so from you might hear it there but to see them out in our community and to praise the visitors center personnel and their knowledge level is very encouraging secondhand praise is my favorite so thank you for that um I like hearing it from somebody that you're doing a good job but I like hearing it from somebody else that heard it from somebody else so that's a great thing that's always a great thing uh with the open and the creation of the uh uh art and uncommon places art exhibits especially the black Tha Cowboy downtown that has opened another venue another Avenue for us uh paintbrush alley is always busy so it's it's just that art and and and culture pulling those two together uh really set the city apart and it's something that we can pack we can sell to just about anyone um with regard to our advertising we're we're looking at a roughly $467,000 total marketing expense out of our budget on an annual basis so that includes our advertising but it also includes all of those things that we mentioned which was going to uh conventions to pull conventions to us uh we are relegating that

[0:50:29] to I want to call it Regional as opposed to some of the longer distance uh trips that had been made in the past I know that at times people were going to Canada or Mexico and things of that nature that is that is not taking place now we're keeping that within Texas so that we know that our reach is is primarily within Texas and the shoulder States we don't need to go out into California to try to pull people here right now I don't think that's necessary uh but we do see a large increase total number of international visitors which has been big for us and they love the hospitality and they love the whole Indian and cowboy yes they do they like and they love coming through here to go to Big Bend and they love coming through here to go to Marfa and they are always looking for cowboys and Indians yes ma'am so with our reach in terms of our advertising we are reaching uh in all of the Publications that we've we've discussed in the past which is authentic Texas Texas highways uh Texas monthly we will have the cover of the Fall Edition for travel Host this year um and that will be the uh Christmas edition so it it it lasts from October through December and we will be putting that one really really great photo that we got during the parade on the cover and it was very inexpensive so that was a good reach for us and that gets us that market that we're looking for it's the north and west primarily that we're seeing the majority of our people come from but the focus will be on Texas highways and Texas M right because that's where you're getting your bang for your Bo yes ma'am absolutely and we've changed our our ad space instead of going for quarter page ads we're we're doing less ads but larger ads smart with better quality advertisements smart so we're we're trying to trying to utilize the money more wisely there uh I could prepare I could share this with you but year-to dat ad placements the the some of the examples of that even in Texas monthly were the rafini chapel when they ran the rafini article we we I got a little inside baseball on that so I utilized that to my my advantage on that and we put the rafini chapel as the

[0:52:32] as the ad and and talked about the the fact that that was built here with right on the front end of the article that was written on the rafini brothers so that was a kind of a cool idea uh our travel host for this month is take time for some Lake time you know we talked about water just a little bit ago it's actually a picture of Cole Riner in a cowboy hat on a wake board behind a boat fabulous so we didn't take it at nasworthy but I got his permission to use it I I I called Cole and asked him if I could use his picture he said absolutely not a problem so we're we're good there and he didn't block out his space no we it's it's covered a little bit by some cowboy hat and and water but you can tell he's he knows what he's doing good so uh authentic Texas as I said we are using some metrics this year to track people with with uh scanning the QR codes now that does require people to take action so you do have to take out your phone and take a a snap of that QR code but we are starting to see that authentic Texas and Texas monthly are leading the pack when it comes to overall clicks or or or traffic to the website now that doesn't necessarily translate directly into a hotel sale uh but with 27 in Texas monthly I can attribute that the majority of people who are seeing that ad are indeed clicking on it and and checking it out because of high quality ads so uh that's a good thing Texas Highway is the same way they're they're pulling about 15 authentic Texas is 14 so you brought up daty earlier in the conversation I've had people ask that say they've asked to have access to that information how do people get information from data fi to use for their own recruitment or information what whatever they need what can they get with it yes ma'am so if they can reach out to us and and it's it's harder to do with a large group of dates so say for instance if you wanted to look at a particular event in 23 one particular event and compare it to that event in 2024 it's pretty simple to do but if we're looking at multiple

[0:54:34] weekends throughout a year and then comparing that to the multiple weekends through another year it does become very time consuming uh because you do have to go in through and and change the filters provide that information and it does take a little bit of time it's not instantaneous but it can be done can certainly be done good and we're glad to do it it's just a it is timec consuming so it if someone to ask please please understand that we do have some limitations tell what what the issue is ABS front it's going to take some time unless you identify a tighter timeline and you can tell them that and then they can either be happy with that Etc but just let them know that it is available it is available absolutely um bookings which is always a a topic and that's part of our metrics it's part of our contracts and and metrics in our contract uh we're sitting roughly at 100 right now through this year for 2024 we've got a couple of really um exciting ones I would say coming well potentially coming uh before the end of the year um roughly a 200 person group that we're looking at trying to bring in again that fits that small to mediumsized Convention group uh we don't have an identified space for them yet they've not asked for one but we are working with Sid as we need to here on on uh the convention center and it it's worked out very well okay so overall everything has been good total room nights booked uh is in the neighborhood of 20,000 total room nights uh throughout the year which is great um 24 new sales out of the 46 that U you know we did in the first quarter 24 of those were new most of them smaller you know we again a a kinetta may bring 30 to 40 people to town but it's a group and it's it's it's hotel room nights and that is something that we focus on every time we get the opportunity if somebody calls us and says I'm having a family reunion or a class reunion we want to accommodate them we want to help them uh Monica's downtown Main Street retreat was phenomenal this year and and thankfully just by happen stance we happen to talk about it and she said

[0:56:35] I was about to do all this by myself we are happy to help in any of those situations so it's not necessarily us selling it but other our partners reaching out to us as well right but we want selling it oh absolutely absolutely we're spending the time everywhere we can but if we've got a if we've got a bird in the hand we're going to grab it no you want to utilize all the uh resources and um groups that we have to tie into their larger group yes ma'am so our partnership partnership network has been phenomenal so all that to say any questions questions for Jeremy comments for Jeremy Larry the Canadian Air Force has been a big plus yes uh I'm assuming it's going to continue next year but is there any plan for a long-term agreement with them and and you might want to talk about the heads on beds yes and what has done for us so the Royal Canadian Air Force was here back in October of last year they spent a good portion of November with us and during that time there were 60 people that had come in to do essentially a scouting Mission uh just to see what the flying conditions were like see what our our airport capacities were uh what type of availability we would have to work with them uh so they spent a little bit of time here last year in 2023 they came back in February with 90 plus and during that time they spent the entire month of February here they committed at that time that they will be back again in November because flying conditions are optimal um our weather is great they they love the place they love the town they love the hospitality that they receive here in town um so those people will be here again for an additional month excuse me so with 90 people essentially uh staying in hotel rooms through the month of February um that was a large chunk of heads and beds for the month of February then you combine in the stock show with that um we did a DAT to five just a quick poll of it but there were roughly 72,000 people who hit the grounds uh during Stock Show now that's again 50

[0:58:39] mil and out so we don't know whether all those people stayed in hotel rooms but I can tell you if you look at the numbers a good portion of those people stayed in hotel rooms during that time so that's a great thing for us to see but they have committed that they will be back in November Larry and our goal is to set that up to be a long-term relationship we don't want to let that go that has helped our airport uh our airport staff has been phenomenal German's team have been outstanding uh that was one thing that I kept hearing from all of the pilots was just you have no idea how easy it is to fly in and out of here because they are willing to do whatever is necessary to give us what we want so that again speaks volumes you know if they've made any Capital Investments that uh also is an encouragement for them to keep so far I have not offered any incentives or any uh any dollars toward them now we have gotten them some government rates for hotels which has been helpful uh this past year they did an RFP but they're going to skip by the RFP and just go to us to establish this for themselves um they used a third party planner we tried to advise them against it but that was where they were uh it was just part of the governmental uh bureaucracy that they had they've gone past that now and and we've gotten the approval to just move forward as a as a a team in this instead of having that third party planner but we have not offered any incentives ourselves now Capital improvement from the Royal Canadian Air Force why not we can ask I say we should if they're going to keep coming back let's make them the home out there and you know sounds good to me needs offset by what so you look at it and you say if they make some Capital Improvement what is the offset that they want from us because it's usually not all free no nothing's free right yeah so give and take okay all right questions anything else comments for Jeremy fol thank you very

[1:00:49] much Downtown St Angelo you're up next hello good morning almost afternoon um so downtown s Angel is actually um celebrating our 20th anniversary this October 20 years that we've been in existence um so much has been accomplished since the organization started I um I've always heard Dell our past director recount memories of downtown when it was quiet not a whole lot of activity sparing I've heard others mention this as well but today it is bustling we have a really great business mix and we're actually currently working on updating our business inventory and so far from what we've counted we had 248 businesses and out of that 47% um are services but then next in line is the shopping and Retail and then we have the restaurants and bars and then right after that is Amusement so um locations like the fort and the Performing Arts Center um think in the box and so this is really great for our downtown in terms of thinking about future of living what that would look like we have the Roosevelt Hotel coming soon hopefully we'll see that in the beginning of 2025 but as far as having this business mix that means that we have all the amenities and services available to bring in living for the living to be here there's the hospital we have a grocery store we could also account you know Walgreens the simple convenience stores as well for living so that's already set and in place next is um inviting the developers to come and take a look at our properties take advantage of the historic properties and the historic tax credits that go along with that as well um this last few weeks um these last few weeks Downtown St Angelo hosted

[1:02:53] the Texas Main Street Retreat um that was a lot of work but it was a lot of fun and it was wonderful to hear all the compliments from the attendees we had a total of 75 attendees attend this Main Street Retreat and we met at different locations so I'm thankful for the venues and the lunch and dinner sponsors that we had we met at Fort Concho the cactus hotel and the library so we switched out venues each day so that the attendees could really get um to know our downtown um they were very very impressed by our art scene so kudos to Art and uncommon places for the work that they've put in the electrified murals were awesome um also the even the trolley we took the ride around the cultural arts district and we rode around through the museum and the Railway Museum and we were able to give this tour and highlight a lot of our great assets that we have in downtown like the contro River and the few that I just named um so we have a really great area and in our community and we're happy to see that growth um as far as stays we did get with the DMO and um we lot of three locations in our downtown where we would be able to accommodate our attendees and so we had the angoria hotel the claron hotel and the Concho Pearl um make arrangements for our attendees and at the end of The Retreat we submitted a paper survey for economic impact and those $118,000 spent in lodging 3,000 spent on outside food and drink and then 4,000 spent on shopping so that was really great that we were able to bring that impact to our downtown through this Retreat that $3,000 is a minimal number because in fact the restaurant slash picked up the cost of the meals so if you calculated the cost of the meals that were given free to that event that number would be much higher oh

[1:04:54] absolutely that does not include the partial sponsorships in the amounts paid out from any lunches or dinners as well um this is just um from the 43 respond I mentioned there was 75 attendees but only 43 actually responded so um this is just a bit of a number to give us a bit of an idea of the impact brought here but it very well was much much more than that for sure mayor um and as far as our events go um you know I've just came up here and gave our presentation at City C our biannual presentation so we've already heard about bruise Us in barbecue we also have our Star Spangled Banner concert and firework show coming up on July 3rd so we're happy to have this display for the community the fireworks show will be bigger and better than ever um and we do have exclusive use of the fireworks through um VIP tables as well as our Cabanas um in the back of the river stage it's something new for us and we'll have local performances um our stroll continues on with two more strolls left for the year um and then we'll host a mini Miss wool pageant in November really looking forward to that and we'll start pushing those materials a little bit harder soon to get the word out about this new event for us um this is a family-friendly event so we're happy to to plug that in um to our plans for this year and then kind of similar to last year we teamed up with Angelo State University to host rambunctious week this purpose was to be a part of rambunctious week to bring students off campus to downtown to get familiar with our downtown and so we're doing the same thing with Goodfellow Air Force Base this year in October we will will be a part of their senior Leadership Summit and we will take the command team around for a scavenger hunt tour and again this is to bring them to our downtown and get them familiarized with all that we have to offer and with the new streetcape in place the walkability um the quality of life is just really boosted in our downtown because it's so beautiful and that was one of the compliments from the main Street Retreat attendees as well as how

[1:06:57] beautiful our downtown is and how clean it was um so the city's work does not go unnoticed as far as the cleanup crew coming out and taking care of the landscaping and picking up any litter that's around our downtown we're thankful for that um future plans as well as far as design goes we are having conversations our promotions and design committee are talking about um we've had historic banners the red historic banners in place but those have have not withstood The Testament of time so we're looking into bringing new banners in place and so we're in our initial steps we'll be communicating with the design and historic review commission and seeing um where we might propose to place these banners and what they would look like I think we're going to have a focus on um the art scene since that is something that is highly visible to U people that come and visit downtown and then of course our marketing um we have our historic mag in our website and our social media where we present information and um promotions I think our organization to the Public's eye has gone a little under the radar but we do want to start putting ourselves out there and letting it be known that we are part of this community and we have so much support like the DMO and art and and common places and the Performing Art Center all the support that we've ever had for any events that we we do um we're very thankful and um also of course to the city of s Angelo Development Corporation in Texas bank for helping us with um the Main Street retreat but um we'll continue to do what we do um and I'll leave it at that do You' have any questions well I just want to make sure the Public's aware that they talk a lot about the buildings particularly the townhouse Hotel on the corner of chadburn and Concho and don't understand why we can't get them developed and I want the public to understand we have many mult multiple people who come to our city and really want to develop those buildings it is

[1:09:01] not due to a lack of ENT this past November we had three developers in town who tried to get access and under contract for the townhouse Hotel um Bogard Towers um Trimble Bacher and another building and based off of the price that people put on their building they didn't make Financial sense for a developer to develop it even with tax credits so you still have to be reasonable in terms of the price asked you're absolutely right that's the big question that we get why isn't anybody done anything with this building why aren you doing anything with this building well it is out of our hands U we are not the property owners at the end of the day so it does come to that negotiation between the property owner and the developer um and they right that there's a really really high price tag on some of these properties to where it's not feasible for the developer it doesn't make sense to them to come in and purchase this property on top of having to make the updates that they need to operate a business and still generate a steady revenue for themselves the reason we were getting the Roosevelt Hotel done was we were able to secure that building at a very reasonable price 10 years ago and because it we were able to get at a reasonable price it they were able to develop it as a project so their entry into the building and the cost with that was low compared to what other people are asking for and so Downtown St Angelo was very instrumental in acquiring that building which is now going to turn into what will be um 12 million asset in downtown early 2025 oh yes we're happy to see that and we are pretty confident that that's going to come to fruition I know it's been some time but there's signage out there they're getting to it little by little but that's just kind of how construction goes it's work if you

[1:11:04] drive by it there's a lot of work being done on it it's not signage it's work yes signage but they are working on it yes um but I know I know that that will come come to us pretty soon it's just you know waiting and seeing what happens but it will be here yeah anything um like that takes time um tear actually I'll mention that um we are um in Communications with the planning department um we actually had a conversation about um yard sign yard signage to help Market the tear program what I do want to do this is on my radar is pick up the phone and make phone calls to past Year's recipients to gauge how they originally heard about the ti program so that we aren't spending money where it's not necessary we want to make sure that it is impactful especially reaching the north side of town um we have seen a few more projects popping up so that's great it's kind of like once one neighbor sees that they're updating their property then they'll do the same and that's the purpose of the tiers program so um we'll continue looking at that and assessing what the marketing will look like to push further than website and social media we really want to get um some visuals out there as well as um word of mouth is always the best thing as well spreading the word about the tear program any questions for Monica mayor yes just just a comment um I'm green but I'm not heard yeah we can hear you okay um I want to thank you for you you mentioned you gathered some data on on the folks you had in town that you were able to assess economic impact uh of their particular event that they were here for um thank you for doing that that that to me is very helpful data not only for us but for others um and I would uh encourage others to follow y'all's example and gather that kind of data when they bring an event to town just so that they can share that with a lot of people so thank you for doing that I I appreciate that

[1:13:07] you're welcome thank you yes Tom so if we have a piece of property in town and it's vacant and it's not being used and other people have taken it as just a investment or somewhere to sit there I mean are there things we need to I mean you can't rent a hanger at the airport without having an airplane in it without doing business and moving things forward you know I I think there's that's an obstacle to where that would definitely be taxable Revenue the city could use all of that and I'm particularly talking about the building right across from Trimble Bacher I mean if there's things we need to do to encourage them move forward but I'm I'm certainly not a favor of somebody sitting there and just dragging it out I mean we if if I remember right it actually came to us and who's the land owner now of the townhouse Hotel yeah it's a gentleman out of Orange Texas k s yes and so it's it's kind of disheartening for something to sit there and knows not to move forward with it that's things that benefit the City downtown things we need to move forward so we've looked at several things Tom along the way to try to figure out how to force the hand of a property owner to in terms of development the question comes back to to picking winners and losers and putting let's say higher taxes on it or other issues that are not applied across the board and the legality of that right it's been a difficult thing to move forward on although we've had multiple conversations on how to try to force the hand and it really gets back to private property rights and what you can or cannot do and the only other option that you have is the fire marshal and the farm marshall making sure that that property is kept up to uh safety standards minum standards minimum standards and if not force in the hand of that either additional investment on that and or other things but it's been a

[1:15:12] big Challenge and we like I said we had an excess of million dollars offered for the Trimble I mean the townhouse Hotel million5 was offered he bought that building for $125,000 and won't accept a million5 offer so those are the challenges and the issue it's not about desire and people wanting to come to our town and buy these buildings and redo them they just can't get their hands on the building even when the purchase price is dynamically smaller than the offer price and that's the frustrating part well what I what I think you told us here is there's a lot of headwinds involved with moving this forward but we would love to see our town grow at a faster Pace especially downtown and we're with you 100% we appreciate what you do we hate to see the obstacles you get from somebody not within our community that's holding things up well I know um corana has like a vacant city ordinance and there were conversations during the Main Street Retreat because the retreat was a part of new manager training and training for the Main Street program um so we're going to continue to research that but also kind of see how that goes for them because who's who's to say if it's successful for them or notos um raising the property taxes each year and increments yeah and so again yeah it's looking at that and then seeing how that's actually playing out for them and this is new for them so um we're just going to continue to keep an eye on that and see what happens there for the other cities and our biggest challenge then is you look at you know a couple of the things that determine a praise value comparable and we don't have comp in the downtown area that's worth anything now when the Roosevelt Hotel gets done then all of a sudden you're going to have a better comp that you could somewhat use to drive that conversation but until you have a

[1:17:14] comp it's pretty hard yeah okay thank you Monica thank you St Angela Museum of Fine Arts thank you all for being patient out there but getting this information is really important to us and why don't you start by introducing yourself and telling us a little bit about your background because you are new to St Angelo and new to the Museum of Fine Arts my pleasure can you hear me U speak more into the microphone quite short is that better okay okay hello good morning thanks for having me here I am josea Gonzalez mariscal I'm the new director of the San Angelo Museum of Fine Arts uh I have worked all my life in the cultural sector Ive worked in Mexico and the US I'm an American and immigrant uh I have dual citizenship I am an art historian I Am A Fine Arts certified fine artarts appraiser I have a masters in public service Administration and nonprofit management I was the executive director of the national Hispanic Cultural Center in nuker I was a deputy director of the bulok Texas State History Museum I've been a culture at theet for the Mexican Council in uh in Houston and that those just are a few of the things that I have done in my life um I am very happy to be here I'm very happy to work with the community and little by little become integrated in the S Angelo Community up to now I have received a very well warm welcome and I thank all of you for it the community has really been fantastic in terms of welcoming me I am uh starting my tenure and learning about the city and learning

[1:19:16] about the museum uh after the museum having had a very long directorship with Howard Taylor who uh we cannot thank him enough for all what he did for this the City by helping materialize the museum as you know the museum was closed for a short period of time last year due to damage to the roof and uh the construction of the new roof so in spite of the museum having been closed for a while the museum had iners uh visitors up to close to 39,000 visit visitors which is a fantastic number 4,000 were out of town and about 200 were International visitors though I must say that those numbers are not entirely accurate because when we have events and we have visitors that come into the city for a wedding at kinera we do not know how many of the guests are foreign or or out of town but so this is the numbers that I'm giving you are for visitors to exhibitions and programs so there's a a greater variety of attendees once you factor in uh visitors that are coming into the city for social purposes or business purposes and I want to let you know that we have revamped our events and rentals policies we are trying to offer more spaces for the community to use within the museum we have expanded that and I think that's important for attracting more visitors to the city and for civic engagement we are making absolutely every space in the museum rentable and available for the public to use nonprofits government um for social engagements uh for educational purposes so we have uh revamped that which we hope will really uh help the museum and

[1:21:20] the community we continue to to uh engage with other institutions as you know the uh SFA is the manager for the Cultural District I am very new to this uh Cultural District I'm learning of what the priorities for the city are and what the priorities for the district uh entities that are in it are so I hope to start uh moving forward in that uh more speedly the uh the past few weeks that I've been here I've been more familiarizing me with what the needs of the museum are and now I'm expanding to other areas you also might know that we manage the Starbase program which is a great asset to the community Through the base and that is very important and also we manage cassetta the center for uh advancement study of Early Texas Art this weekend I'm going to be in Houston attending the the Symposium the cassetta Symposium and seeing how else we can continue to work with them that is a very important partnership because it is an institution that preserves a lot of the history of Texas Art we have some of their archives with well we have other archives with us and there are more artist archives that are coming this summer to us that are cassetas but that we we manage and we host so that's an important aspect of keeping s Angelo not only vibrant in its current uh with its current artists and art community but also in the preservation of the historic aspect of um art in the state so that's why the association with cassetta is quite important for us we're also um in a partnership that was signed last year with uh Fort cont and the city for the development of the space that is in the Chase building for uh storage facility

[1:23:24] a storage facility that will also in the future will house uh conservation Labs so that the cultur assets that are in West Texas have a place to be preserved and that is of prime importance it's not only what we're doing today but how we preserve our past and what we're doing for the future Generations um we continue to have exhibitions and the exhibitions are trying to be broad to be inclusive for diverse members of the community for diverse histories an upcoming one is uh the Will Wilson exhibit which is a photographic exhibit that uh contrast uh Native American photographer today with uh The Works of another native with a an Anglo photographer depicting Native Americans in the past so those kind of uh exhibitions open the the community to um to interpretation different aspect different points of view it helps children of different identities find places where they can see themselves represented which is very important uh currently we're running our camps to capacity we do camps for children as you know they're beloved by the children that are come the parents and that is a great opportunity for children to be immerse in the Arts we to continue to have uh what we're called family days currently are clay days but we might go back to family days those are days where families can come and interact with uh with other families with the Educators to experience our themselves and do it as a family U many Studies have proven that children who attend museums with their families become long members of M Museum attendees it's different than those that just attend with the School attending with the school is fabulous

[1:25:26] and we support that and we have school groups that come all the time but that connection that involves the family goes beyond the just School attendance and that's why for us it's very important to have days like our Thursdays where families in the afternoon can just drop off with their kids and engage in doing art and we will continue to do those we have kept our signature Ceramics week which is in collaboration with a you with a symposium exhibition uh just in our opening we had more than 500 people attend it's uh an opportunity to bring ceramist from all over the nation and Beyond uh we changed the the the title of the of the competition to make it North American because we are inviting artists from Canada Mexico and the United States so now we are calling it the North American ceramic competition since we have had um representatives from these three countries the amplire which is what I call it a Citywide extravagan of amplire painting has been modified uh it was modified before my arrival I'm just U implementing it to be spread out throughout the year so it is not just one um at the end uh in October this year it has started and we have uh guest artists in residency for three weeks at local ranches painting our ranches we are um having other artists coming in September and doing the same staying with us at Texas ranches for three weeks and painting more and then it will all be presented all what they did in the fall in October so we're expanding what that program was instead of just concentrated to uh a few days to um through the year in the um the idea is to alternate one year of a big

[1:27:30] competition like in the past and one year of residency so um it's our first year doing it and it's going well uh we have an artist from Florida who was surprised at what real life in a ranch is and that is good because it's expanding what we do it's letting other states know what we're doing uh so it has been very uh very interesting working with them I want to thank you all for the support you give the museum through uh the many things that the city does for us and the hotel occupancy tax is impactful we use it for marketing we use it for all this programming that we do educational uh bringing exhibitions and we do um social media we do print marketing we send invitations we print them we send them out we invite the community we are uh adjusting some of our policies um well since the pandemic the museum uh had not charged admission because we're trying to get people back into the habit of going back to museums but as we know throughout um uh many studies although we want to be access ible we do need to go back into charging some admission so uh that has been approved and we're going to implement it soon but that would also allow us to collect more data as to who is coming specifically to the museum because if we do it now in a way that we're um inputting it into a program as to who who is coming what they're coming from everything it'll be easier for us to collect data that is useful for all of you to use so that is one of things that we're doing we're also um expanding our membership program so that there's more value in acquiring a membership and we're trying to um call

[1:29:37] on to the community the business Community to acquire uh corporate memberships for their employees to attend to support us so we're revamping many of our policies as we move forward with new leadership do you have any questions or comments well go right ahead Lucy I just wanted to tell you welcome and thank you so much for all your hard work at you're beginning thank you good luck thank you it's hard to follow someone who's been here for decades but I always think change is good and your leadership and your background I think will help change happen and new things come to the table so thank you and uh hope you enjoy your experience here in St Angelo Texas thank you very much thank you water lily where's my sign I I have updates so the previous year we were allocated $25,000 that first year we spent about $8,000 to do some uh signage wayf finding signage to lead folks to the park itself and then we began working on a concept for the entrance sign to civic league park so this year we fin finalized those concept and I do need to show you all in probably in the Friday um packet memo we finalize that concept we work on the design for that entrance it has stone columns and a wooden sign it's similar to the one at the Bosque but it's it's not exactly the same thing it's similar um it also includes some flat Works some pavestones as you come into the park handicap ramp accessibility and it's it's a new entrance you'll know that you're at the entrance of the the park uh we were held up trying to find the right stone to match what's there it's sort of a a brown conglomerate Stone it took a while for us to find that we found a source and and we're confident we can comfortably Comfort comfortably do the project with the funds that are

[1:31:40] remaining this fiscal year so that project yes that project will be done this fiscal year uh I see allocation of 25,000 for next year I have a recommendation that that shift over to wayf finding for um signage along the the downtown core section of the river connecting folks along the river to attractions along the river and to both sides of the river we will be working with Angelo State University this fall to work up the concept for that way finding signage and then we'll need some funds to work up the design and begin to implement that project so that's my recommendation thank you questions just a real quick comment we've been talking about W finding WF finding for 20 years I'm glad we've got to the spot where we can do that so from your recommendation I would say I support that thank you we will now do art and and common places morning mayor G city council my name is Dr Gigi Perez Langley my partner is Julie Raymond and I'm here on behalf of arton and common places the microphone so we talk right into it yes ma'am thank you so much for allowing me this opportunity this morning art and uncommon places has had an amazing two years with the help of the hotel occupancy tax funds from the city of St Angelo and the Partnerships with other entities within the city um our support stretches from the city's parks and wreck to Street and Bridge departments uh Downtown St Angelo discover St Angelo keeps St Angelo beautiful St Angelo Performing Arts Center stt Angelo Museum of Fine Arts paintbrush alley Market Days saisd and private donors who all see the value in what public art can do for a community our downtown open air museums popart and pamper alley are

[1:33:44] frequently booked for private and public events in 2003 there were eight events that brought in over 15,000 people in 2024 so far we've seen a skate competition and one paint brush alley Market Days with another planned for October we thank the organizers of Paintbrush alley Market Days um for continuing to bring exposure to these open air museums in St Angelo um the online presence because of this has become wide open um we've seen things in travel blogs with my curly Adventure downtown Texas and um the market days was actually nominated for travel award by the DMO in 2023 um with the with the hot fund money that we got in 2023 we completed the electrified murals project which brought 10 new murals to the city with augmented reality we were proud to be one of the first in the nation to have an augmented reality mural tour our murals are augmented using the app called iack and the statistics show that we've had over 3,500 views um we placed an ad in the historic downtown Museum U magzine in order to um explain the project show how to use the project and also just bring it to the attention of some of the surrounding communities that the distribution for the magazine is in so far in 2024 um we've had a very big and ambitious year so far and um we're just so excited um we've installed a mosaic mural of a mermaid um she's front and back at the her name is red a at the red a royya Art Trail um in March we took on an ambitious new project called the black tii cowboy in downtown St Angelo art and common places was able to contribute over 50 pieces of art to a three block section of chadburn many of the pieces were made in the studio over time with volunteers the W3 Work Camp and um then donated to the city the installation includes historic photos sculptures seaing paintings and

[1:35:50] mosaics as well as some storefronts getting painted um to help increase the look of yes ma'am increase the look of downtown um with the support from the city we were able to complete this project in a very very short time um and host a ribbon cutting and opening in May so from March to may we were able to complete this project um and it brought vibrancy through the streets that day uh we had our opening on May 7th on S Angelo gives day and I can tell you based on the statistics on the website um we have had over 200 hits between 5:00 and 7:00 during the opening of that event as we all know s Angelo gives is a huge day for many entities in St Angelo so to have that kind of um QR clicks during just that 2hour period is really kind of remarkable so thank you to the public and everybody in the city for uh contributing to that some of our future projects include a private donation to fund the art at the alt irrigation splash pads um for Unidad six benches and a mosaic mural are in production after the completion of that first Splash Pad we'll begin working on art for the Kirby Park uh we have a kids project that's called impressions of s Angelo a seek and find for family fun and this is a rubbing project where there will be 26 um placards placed on uh staple places in the community that people can go and do do a rubbing of and it's aimed towards children so we're hoping to partner with sisd in the distribution of that and to get that out to some of the uh families in town because it after all you know you're you have to have somebody take the kid to those places in order to be able to do that um lastly when we spoke last we were uh seeking funding from a private Grant or from a grant to move forward with the airport beautification project and we were not granted that um so

[1:37:54] we would like to continue moving forward with that project and the contributions to the 2425 Hotel occupancy tax funds would be beneficial to J Jump Start that project for us we hope to see all of our social media presence numbers grow um and continue updating our website to include the Black Tie Cowboy project if you haven't gone on and looked at that lately um we've done a ton of work to make sure that everybody knows the history behind some of the pictures the story behind some of the sculptures and just some of the things that art and common places is really proud to bring to the city so um and then we also included the electrified murals on that so it's an easier way for people to be able to get on and just see um how to get to the murals and how to use them with the QR codes on the website um so it's easy easier uh access we are working with our social media team to enhance our online presence and as more people become aware of what we offer our visitors and Community the more we can count on our community to take pride in the city's art scene and share that with their visitors who come to town um art and common places hopes to continue branding St Angelo as a visual arts cabal Texas and with the help of the city hot funds we've been able to do an incredible job in the last two years if I could say so so thank you so much do I have any questions well I know I'm speaking for Julie um she's in New York this week and and they have an ask to go from 25,000 to 50,000 a year so that they can continue doing all of these art projects that they're doing which they have raised funds to do that with um the airport is a project that uh we've seen the artwork presented um they didn't get the grant so they need money to help do that but I look at the investment and in um black tii cowboy and all the artwork in the downtown area was worth about a million bucks worth of of art yes ma'am

[1:39:58] and that doesn't include the art done in other locations or the art that you're getting ready to present so the ask is to go from 25,000 to 50,000 in the new budget yes ma'am questions comments thank you very much good job uh Railway Museum she left uh Fort Concho turn around Bob morning mayor councel uh Fort Concho has been the gracious and grateful recipient of hot money for more years than I can remember and I'm pleased to tell you that it remains a worthy investment uh we've had a good year fiscal and calendar calendar 2023 we saw visitors from 49 states and we missed West Virginia sorry four territories 260 Texas communities and 31 foreign countries you've probably heard from some other organizations about the Partnerships that we have with the other cultural agencies so we're trying to do our part for the greater glory of Tourism our 50,000 basically goes into the general op operations funds of the fort and helps us do all the things we do all year long we're open 361 days a year we rarely close this is unusual for a cultural nonprofit many close on Monday some close on Tuesday some don't openal 10 we're here every day and some days we draw Lots of people and some days we don't but throughout the year we serve at or near 60,000 people and that's not shabby given where we are in

[1:42:01] West Texas uh we've had a good year we have great events upcoming we cordially invite you to our Western Art Show opening on Thursday 27 June at 5:30 and I stand ready to take any questions you may have on what we do what we will do or what we should do when are those two new buildings opening I knew someone would ask that question we're in the home home home last stretch we are at the 99.5 percental uh in plain English I'm hoping next month uh we are at the point where what is necessary to be done are tiny invisible but has to be done electronic security some odds and ends uh it's been a long slog but a good one and these four buildings will create a research library center open entirely to the public that will be second to none in our territory so we're very much looking forward to it uh it's been suggested that I send you a update so as soon as I have another meeting with the contractor we'll get you a Friday memo very shortly waited 23 years so this has been worth the wait thank you very much any other questions or comments for Bob thank you Civic events Sid you're on mayor we do have this is one of the funds that the final fund that we go through do you want to go through his budget at the same time or it's fine with me if it's fine with it's fine with me yeah okay I'm going to get you out of here real soon we're getting educated today this is good okay so this is a good day the Civic events fund of course their revenues comprised of um Hotel occupancy tax as well as venue income um other here includes venue revenues concessions advertising rights and interest and the

[1:44:03] increase is due to an increase um in Coliseum revenue and interest which is offset by a decrease for convention center revenue and on the expenditure side Personnel is up there slightly again o omm is up due to increases for insurance it and indirect cost and the facility use fee revenue of course is being restricted to fund balance for future capital and maintenance needs just for clarification the decrease in the convention center revenue is due to our dinner wear replacement that we do not use currently we haven't been using it for several years so we decided to give you all a a better uh budget feel for you know for the convention center well weren't you closed for a certain amount of months as well yes ma'am but this has been the same same since preco obviously questions concerning the budget Tom Sid we had a talk two weeks ago sat in your office a little bit and talked about and I believe it's in your other column talking about Revenue yes sir and I String suggest and and part of that revenue is commissions advertising what we have in certain areas I would as I as I did that day I'd encourage you to have a business review with the people that are charge of helping us generate that revenue and seeing if there's other steps we can do to generate more I mean it's anything to take the burden off of the expansion out of the general fund or hot tax and save you more money there but I think there's a lot of things that you brought up to me that were discuss that were areas that we could go and look at different ways with signage and marketing and things and working with mofin to try to expand upon what we got I I encourage you and I wanted to make that statement here in front of everybody to know that well let's hear about them so we were talking about manage on you know what we get at revenues in certain areas and is there a limit to what we have and can we expand upon that I'm talking about signage in the Coliseum signage here where can we go with that and grow it

[1:46:06] some more and not just keep it to what we have limited I mean when we sat there and I gave him a perfect example through my eyes when I worked at a previous job I thought I had gone as far as I can go it took somebody new to come in and look and say Here's further steps you can go and uh it's just like what you just said with talking about change at the Museum a different set of eyes things to look at may be able to suggest you different opportunities to Chase and they brought that up and they were like you know what I think there's you know more Revenue that we can find in certain areas and I certainly look at the river stage as one of those opportunities River Stage is huge yeah I mean so let's let's go down the path of sit down with the people and talk about what can we do to grow it I mean I think that's important important you know signage is one of the hardest things to sell sponsorships you're basically getting the name out but try to push the Horizon on that and see what you can get yes sir currently we're stagnant like you say in that area so hopefully in the next few months we'll be able to meet with uh advertising company mlin and be able to have some type of discussion so we can you know get a little bit more positive um with uh with our working environment with him all right so any other ideas Tom that you had th thrown out that you think would open sit down on that one but just sell more rent more one door at a time one window at a time that's it meanwhile the Landscaping is looking much better the facility looks much better with the Landscaping definitely I do want to thank Roger Mario and their crew um they've been taking care of us so much I mean obviously we're we're short staffed on being able to do things like that outside but they know all the terminology and everything to to make sure that project goes very well and I just want to make sure I give them kudos for all the hard work that they do for us and I'm a big believer that we are

[1:48:11] under sized and under um capability in terms of what this facility can be we need to push harder on what we need to get more conventions here we've consistently hear we don't have enough a breakout space um and we're not going to get more groups here more conventions here if we don't have a facility that works for that so we've got to have our eyes on what do we need to look like we need to push the button on what does this convention center need to become instead of just making the excuses that well we don't have breakout rooms so we can't get this or we can't get that we want more so what does more need to happen to get the more that we need and this facility has been this size it's we got a lot of land out there it's empty a lot we got a lot of land around this facility and we need to utilize the land and the opportunity that probably exists but we got to have a plan to do it and we need to keep pushing the button to expand this convention center it's called a Convention Center for a reason and but we need to make sure it's being utilized most often as a Convention Center not a wedding venue it's great to do the wedding venue the con C keyas Etc but it's called a Convention Center where are the conventions what is it going to take what do we need to do what's it going to cost we need to be able to Market this city and our convention center and you can only do that if you have something to sell I agree I definitely agree um that has been in discussions lately with uh City management as well um just trying to bring more awareness in that area I'm hoping to go visit some of the other

[1:50:14] convention centers that are neighboring us and and get a feel for those conventions and everything that they're doing and see how we can uh we can bring some more conventions to our Convention Center you got to accommodate definitely need to accommodate and we need more breakout space there's there's just a lot of different factors that are going on for us but we'll we'll definitely have a meeting to discuss that very shortly yeah we talked about hotel motel tax we need hotel motel tax our hotels need greater occupancy and this facility has to be a driver of that and if this facility isn't driving driving it we got to get a facility that is driving it okay well good all right go ahead go ahead yes Tommy we we talked about that during the CIP that um it was my suggestion um I think Council agreed with this we've got several venues in town that we we have as in we have already invested in this this facility being one um another one in the north part of town um we have some other opportunities I think so my my point of bringing that up again we talked about it in the CIP because I think I asked our finance staff if they had some kind of software that could help us analyze where our money would be best invested to help us get the greatest return on that so I I'm hoping they're still working on that and will be able to bring back to us um you know to to your point earlier mayor I think the River State should be included in that I think Convention Center our Coliseum out north of town um we've got some opportunities in the west side of town as crazy as it sounds um perhaps to the group um Larry and I have been pushing Twin Mountain to go all the way through there is economic

[1:52:17] activity out there to be generated by what would happen around that so I think that's something we had to look at as well so again I throw all that out there I hope sta Finance staff is working on something to bring back to us and say here is where your money is best invested because it will provide the greatest return what's that going to be I don't know maybe it's a river stage maybe it's a Convention Center I don't know what it is so I don't know if Twin Mountain Drive is going to be dealing with these kinds of issues hotel motel tax but what you do have out west that is terribly under utilized and has to have a focus on it we have a master plan done to do that is Lake nasworthy well and again to my point even bringing that up we've got some opportunities but we don't know where we we're talking about big dollars here if we're talking about Convention Center we're not talking about a million bucks we're talking about millions of dollars if we're talking about uh Coliseum we're talking about millions of dollars so we need to know where as a city with li lied resources where do we invest our money to get the best return for that so again I'm if that takes more than what Finance staff has then maybe that's something we need to work with Finance staff to help them get the tools they need to make that and now I'm not really preaching that you said um I'm just I am ranting and raving in general so yes sir yes sir okay so thank you Tommy so and Tom oh I'm sorry go ahead I was going to respond to Tommy's request to finance staff quickly if I may uh we did get with our Consultants Um Zack tax after that last meeting where we had a CIP discussion um we didn't know if there would be a cost associated with that analysis and it turns out that there is and it can cost up to $445,000 just to look at the impact of the Coliseum um but we could also ask them to compare different venues as well um like I said though it just it it only

[1:54:21] takes money so if that's something that Council would like us to bring back um as a future agenda item we'd be happy to do that I would be supportive of that as one council member I'm not speaking for anybody else but I would be supportive of that Tom I think we had a discussion we talked about it'd be great to kind of see what that would look like before we commit ourselves to go down that path okay what's the dollar amount what would be in doll amount and what we see what comes in I think that was a big disc and we need to do a lot of research ourselves before we get to that because we've got to go see what other cities are doing what does it look like Etc so there needs to be a lot of research done to bring to the table before they can effectively do their work and we effectively know the cost we can we could get um an estimate from Um Zack tax to see what it would cost to compare the Coliseum and the convention center we would just need some direction on which facilities you want to look at more closely so okay all right Sid we've interrupted you six times so now you're on so you want to talk about your hot tax money oh hot tax money of course we we we appreciate the amounts that we actually get for hot tax obviously it does help keep the lights on over here for civic events and for all of our venues uh we've been at the same amount for the past year since you all went flat for that and uh like I said it's it's it's definitely helpful for our situations and just making sure that we can stay working and providing for our community questions for Sid comments okay thank you thank you Sports Complex just a quick update last year we hosted

[1:56:25] 15 tournaments at the sports complex about half of those were ones that we hosted and the other half were ones that we call rentals others hosted it and we just rented the facility um we've had about six tournaments to date this year it'll pick up in the later this summer in the fall of course we had a turnover in leadership and Recreation so we weren't really in a position to be proactive in seeking new tournaments the new leaders leadership has already started doing that um we do want to revisit fees uh for rentals they haven't changed in in quite a while so we'll probably package that as part of the upcoming budget the ongoing budget process and so those are our updates okay questions for Carl yes Tom Carl there's there's brought up some questions about we just have natural grass we're looking at looking at a a Turf yes we have a grass as far as over the long term if we move to a Turf that would take away a lot of the concerns about we've had cancellations because of weather drainage drainage whole whole thing and I just it's not a thing we can do now it's not a 24 solve but I would say going in the future all of us would get a lot fewer calls if we looked at having maybe some a facility that was more weather compliant or you know was Stronger to maintain adverse weather cuz we get a little bit of a storm and we're done and then people cancel and we lose room so I would definitely say a look at what it would cost to Turf those fields in the future and work on the drain we can revisit that it's got pluses it has pluses and minuses and just so you know we we've researched that in the past for y'all and brought those numbers to you the number is huge it's bigger than you think so you just be warned and at the time the reason they decided against it is because the the math just did not work but we can sounds good when you say it we can get you a number again for the

[1:58:28] cost so just start was it a million bucks oh no I don't know if Roger here our expert is here he can answer you remember Roger what that number was per field it was huge hi Roger hello thought you were going to get out of here free yeah I know that's why I was waiting in the side so the last time I looked was uh when councilman uh Lan Carter had asked and i' had done a memo for counsil on it at that time it was probably running between1 and $15 a square foot for the installation of a Turf artificial turf now that has gone up to probably 18 to 25 depending on the situation uh each one of those infields probably runs around 20 to 30,000 square ft uh each one of the outfields is 70 a little over 76,000 Square ft so if you do the math just on The Outfield alone uh 76,000 times you know 20 you're looking at 1.4 million for that the infield would probably be somewhere around yeah I'm not I'm not for sure but it's it it's money that again we it takes money to do those types of things the other downside uh so the upside is obviously what you're talking about uh the ability for play if you if it's installed correctly with a good drainage system and rains it rains correct uh but um from the standpoint you know there is considerable amount of Maintenance that still needs to take place on that I think that's something that people get sold on from the standpoint of oh it's maintenance free and that's just not the case if you if you talk to the industry and the professionals that do take care of those types of fields it takes quite a bit of Maintenance and different types of equipment that have to come in and then last you have the heat uh I measured just right there close to our office at Central High School on the band field soccer field uh on a 98 degree day the

[2:00:32] turf the artificial turf was measuring up to 167 Dees F uh at 2 o'clock in the afternoon so again you know for situations where you have uh nighttime games with lights uh evening games uh fall uh winter spring type activity that may not come into play but us trying to have a tournament in July uh with artificial infields or outfields uh can be quite devastating and and then you're up in the risk factor for for heat issues and so again as Carl pointed out pros and cons to both the biggest uh biggest factor is initial cost going in and what's theive uh it it it varies I know us has done a lot of work with ASU as well as with saisd I would say probably 8 to 15 years depending on on how it's maintained if it's maintained correctly with the right equipment and the right Personnel you could probably get 15 or so years out of it or more uh but again it it depends on on the use Factor too so if you have a soccer field and it's heavily utilized uh obviously the wear is going to going to take its toll and you'd have to come back and and and have that replac I have gotten more calls about this one single topic in the past 60 days than any other topic around I just appreciate you bringing up there's a cost some people think it's just oh you roll it out roll it in cut it and we're done they don't understand that it'd be great to have it it'd be great to have a half and half so you could always go with something but long story short you just made public a lot of questions people don't understand and and another one Tom on that is a little bit different topic but on that when people call in a lot of those tournaments are not run by the city so while our staff may be out there trying to do their best at the end of the day it's the the the person who's putting on the tournament who makes the call whether it continues or not no matter what his staff does to ready those fields so often we get caught in

[2:02:36] that as well well if it's raining it's one thing about the field but if it's raining at 2 o'clock in the afternoon or if it's raining at 9:00 a.m. in the afternoon it's not about the field it's about it's raining it's thunder and lightning it's thunder and lightning so it's not all about draining Andor that's a good point right so I mean it sounds simple but it's not and there's and as he said promoters are the ones who cancel it for it's not our tourament it's the promoter who either didn't get enough attention enough teams or decided to cancel for whatever Reasons I'm good okay good thank you thank you I think that's the end of the list right so with that does that complete what we're doing today I just need um Direction on two things um Carl mentioned converting the $25,000 for Parks from the water lily to the cono River would you like for us to include that in that way well what I heard was to move to continue with 25,000 but to use it for way finding throughout the city okay I just confirm Direction on that and then on um art and and places you mentioned increasing that allocation to $50,000 this year are we being directed to do that in the original budget as well I'm saying yes but well I mean if it's there well it's there and I think if you look at what it has done for our city it's a minimal investment with a big bang and I think that's what we want to have happen okay I think what do you think Jonathan yeah it's there taking your first day yeah yeah okay okay you have the direction it's just a matter of a few key strokes yeah all right so then I'm to ask for uh announcements and consideration of future agenda items which we know we continue on with the budget workshops um and uh with that we uh will

[2:04:42] consider a vote a motion and a vote to adjourn this budget Workshop move we adjourn I second is there a vote to say yes yes we got her done 7 to zero thank you everyone who sat around who contributed who participated and who educated us it's greatly appreciated we're walking out with a lot of information today and insight and that's good

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