San Angelo City Council 11-1-22

[0:00:00] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all honor the Texas flag I pledge allegiance to be taxes thank you foreign we have three proclamations this morning and the first one we are going to do is Texas Arbor Day are there individuals in the audience today to receive this Proclamation all across Texas from towering Pines to Majestic Oaks to scrubby mesquites the many trees of Texas are beautiful and prominent features of our unique and breathtaking landscape as Texans we value our trees and the benefits they provide each of us every day benefits like clean air Clear Water improving our health and even saving us money on energy bills we encourage people in our community to plant trees and celebrate them on the first Friday in November on Texas Arbor Day Texas first observed Arbor Day in 1889 under the leadership of the Texas Forestry Association this holiday for trees is an opportunity to teach fundamental lessons about the stewardship of our natural resources and caring for our environment it is an opportunity to learn what each of us can do to keep our community trees healthy and vibrant and it is a time we can pause to appreciate trees in our

[0:02:03] lives therefore I Brenda Gunter on behalf of the city council of San Angelo proclaimed November 4th 2022 as Texas Arbor Day in our community together we can create a brighter and More Beautiful future for the Next Generation they in turn can affirm the duty of protecting our Natural Resources by being responsible stewards of this great land Charlotte I'm gonna give you this and so I'm excited to be with you guys thank you mayor Gunter and city council for the proclamation today we will be receiving 200 trees that were granted to us from the Apache Corporation they are coming to us from Houston from tree life farms and we have a variety of Red Oaks Live Oaks and Cedar Elms this will be our 450th tree that we've received from this grant over the past three years the Apache Corporation is giving away their 5 millionth tree this year this is their 18th year and they also sentries to 17 States all over the United States so we're very very proud to be a recipient of these trees they'll be going to all of our school campuses so we give trees to Howard College to Angelo State University to every campus for saisd we also include some of our private schools so Trinity Lutheran Angelo Catholic Ambleside has received trees Cornerstone San Angelo Christian Academy we provide trees to the YMCA and the Boys and Girls Clubs so again we're very proud of this award it means a lot to us to enhance and beautify our community our students will be the recipients of cleaner and fresher air like mayor Gunter said they will also have shade beautiful 35 foot canopies and new habitats to explore with our trees and our Wildlife so thank

[0:04:06] you again we're really grateful for this honor foreign our next Proclamation is National adoption month I'm sure I have folks in the audience for this come forward please all children deserve a safe place to live and grow and each year many Texas Children find a forever home thanks to adoptive families in Tom Green County there are many children currently in foster care awaiting a forever family to bring them home during the month of November communities across the country come together to observe National adoption month to encourage and complete the adoptions of children in foster care and to celebrate the families who choose to adopt the city of San Angelo recognizes National adoption month in support of the adoptive families here in our own community and encourages others to open their hearts to children in need of loving and permanent homes therefore I Brenda Gunter mayor of the city of San Angelo Texas on behalf of the city council do hereby Proclaim November 2022 as National adoption month and call on all citizens to remember the children and families who have joined their lives to the miracle of adoption open their hearts and Minds to the idea of opening their own homes to children in need and congratulate the new families to be formed during National adoption month please please um so thank you to the city council and for everyone thank you to the city council and for

[0:06:10] everyone for supporting dfps CPS um our job is really difficult and it we count on everybody else to help us get through that every day we do have 20 kids I believe 20 kids getting adopted in Tom Green County so that's 14 families 20 kids and that'll be on November 18th so those kids will be adopted and they're going to their loving homes and gratefully a lot of those homes that are going to adopt them are with family so they are staying with family and we're just really happy and excited for that so thank you our next Proclamation is Family Court awareness month and anyone in the audience here to receive to speak come on the mission of the family court Awareness Month committee is to increase Awareness on the importance of a family court system that prioritizes child safety and acts in the best interest of children the mission at the fcamc is fueled by the desire to create awareness and change in the family court system for the conservatively estimated 58 000 children a year ordered into unsupervised contact with abusive parents while also honoring the hundreds of children who have been reported as murdered during visitation with a dangerous parent the mission of the FCA MC is to increase

[0:08:14] Awareness on the importance of empirically based Education and Training on domestic violence and child abuse including emotional psychological physical and sexual abuse as well as childhood trauma coercive control and post-separation abuse for judges and all family court professionals working on cases within the family court system the education of Court professionals uses evidence-based peer-reviewed research such research is a critical component to making decisions that are truly in the best interest of children This research includes the adverse childhood experiences study child custody evaluators beliefs about domestic abuse allegations and child custody outcomes in cases involving parental alienation and abuse allegations the mission of the SC AMC is to increase Awareness on the importance of using scientifically valid evidence-based treatment programs and services that are proven in terms of safety Effectiveness and therapeutic value therefore I Brenda Gunter mayor of San Angelo Texas on the behalf of the city council do hereby Proclaim November 2022 as family court awareness month and encourage all residents to support our community's efforts in preventing the harm of children in the hands of family members and to honor and value the lives of children hi guys so I am not much of a speaker kind of crazy the things that you'll do for your children to you guys I'm just Destiny Carr um to Clayton and Grace and Polk my children that were taken from me from their abusive father um I'm their world I'm their mommy I've I've been consistent I've been the one in their life um I'm not going to go too much into detail

[0:10:16] I'll spare you guys that but throughout this process I believe that God put me here for a reason to stand for the voices that are unheard and I pray that we can go beyond the recognition of this and actually see a change within our judicial system from preventing our children from being in the hands of abusive parents unsafe parents but I want to say that I'm super grateful to be here today from the mayor to the city council and I hope that you guys do a little research on this look into it and support me in this thank you so much [Applause] we will now move into the public comment section of the agenda issues or concerns not on the regular agenda may be raised by the public at this time citizens should speak from the podium address all comments to the Diaz Begin by by stating their name and address or single member district number and limit their remarks to less than three minutes may I ask anyone to come forward if they have public comment good morning mayor and city council

[0:12:20] Charlotte Anderson executive director for Keeps San Angelo beautiful and today I want to talk to you a little bit about our last fall sweep event and give you a few details so we had 35 teams over 393 participants we generated 1200 hours at a value of 27.20 per volunteer hour that is a donation to the city of 32 640 in labor we had 28 different locations that we cleaned we provided 242 luncheons we collected over 280 bags of trash over a ton of trash so a little bit over 2040 pounds our most interesting item was a queen CD We Are the Champions and indeed we are the champions our best Spirit was from our Girl Scouts we had about 110 Girl Scouts with us our tough team was from Goodfellow Air Force Base Navy Chiefs under the direction of Mr Diaz who brought in the most trash and our best host was Buffalo Wild Wings so I just wanted to keep you up up to date on our activities we had a wonderful event we are still incident free for all of our years so we're excited about that as well I've provided a little flyer on our literature sure but just a fantastic event we're looking forward to another tire event the tire event will be November the 19th and again we expect to collect a little over two thousand three thousand tires we have four 18 wheelers that will be coming from Burnet Texas the tires that we take away from our community do not go into the landfill but they go to Reliable Tires where they're chipped into one inch squares and the steel is sent to a Foundry which is turned into angle iron and rebar products so that's my little update um very excited to be with you this morning again we hope you will join us

[0:14:24] and pledge to be Litter free that's our goal for San Angelo so thank you and y'all have a great day thank you any questions it worked Charlotte [Applause] morning City Council I am John Barrio a resident of single member district two right here in the fine city of San Angelo Texas I thank the many citizens in attendance today and uh both in person and online and those who will be watching later many from outside San Angelo are observing this meeting some are in attendance While others are watching live or we'll be viewing the meetings recordings at a later time we thee of the people of San Angelo extend a welcome to the following officials who have been invited by various citizens other than myself that have taken an acute interest in the performance of this Council The Honorable Texas governor Greg Abbott the officer office of The Honorable Texas Secretary of State the office of The Honorable Texas Attorney General the office of The Honorable Texas comptroller and the Texas Rangers corruption and public Integrity units additionally we welcome the city council members economic developers Chambers of Commerce and others around the state of Texas who have a current interest in this council's meetings thank you all for your attendance to this matter at hand any further public comment today good morning Nelda Martin Alan I am a constituent of Tommy heberts I come today to thank the mayor the council and city manager Daniel Valenzuela for quickly addressing our request on the Ada upgrades that we hope will happen here in San Angelo I encourage any city

[0:16:27] council member that thinks that they have the time to attend a national Forum it's in sunny California in January but thank you very much for your continued continually addressing this issue thank you further public comment hello Brian Groves Communications manager District Six uh to piggyback on the Ada I just wanted to give you a heads up that we'll have an item at the next council meeting about closed captioning for our TV channel as a way that something in our department can help address the Ada concerns the other item that I wanted to bring up is that our Charter Review Committee will have another town hall meeting on November 14th at 6 pm at City Hall and we just wanted to invite the public to that meeting to hopefully get some feedback and learn about what the charter Review Committee is doing so for the public comment come forward good morning my name is Chad Brown I'm single member district one um I'm here to represent Allen's transport renew company based out of Ladue Canada this just came into town recently Michael Looney and the Chamber has worked very hard with us to get that company over here in San Angelo so he asked if I can come briefly kind of explain what we got going on the idea is what our growth plan is here in the near future right now we're close to hiring our first driver on the only individual employee here in the U.S division first driver should be coming on here within the next few weeks um growth plan from there we've got 10 units on the ground and we look to expand to 10 to 15 drivers very quickly hopefully q1 of next year we'll expand more of an office type Personnel payroll different areas of that aspect the idea is to mirror the company out of Ladue connect Canada that has over 100 employees and that's what our growth plan is here we've got some special things interest with some customer base that we have um regionally nationally and hoping to look to incorporate maybe the new report in different aspects of that so our

[0:18:30] primary focus right now is transportation to produce chemical Hazmat material but we're not afraid to hold just about anything that can be pulled by a tractor trailer so that's hopefully our growth plan I'm born and raised from here I know the network very well I'm hoping to make a good impact here for the city of San Angelo so we just thank y'all um this is from Michael Looney to Tommy and uh everyone here at Allen's transport we appreciate it good morning Kim Henry with service membership number three and I also wanted to publicly thank the city council and the mayor we have already had one meeting um with the city manager and so thank you for that we also have action items that we're going to be following up on so things like hiring an ADA coordinator participating in training doing simulation training and of course addressing the transition plan and the self-evaluation so if you have any questions I would love to be able to answer any questions but I also want to let you know that we're working with other individuals and organizations in the towns to set up our own committee that we're going to be proposing to city council so again I wanted to still let the city know publicly as well that we have made some progress and we're continuing to do that and we'll make sure we continue with those updates so thank you again for taking it seriously recipients thank you [Applause] for their public comment oh

[0:20:39] saying white District Six for 17 years now the gigantic Hotel Cactus sign on top Leaf Luger's 14-story Cactus hotel has been a disgusting high profile embarrassment in the downtown San Angelo Skyline ever since Lee Pfluger removed the 12 of the 22 signelect letters and is arrogantly refused to replace them months ago after I forced several city of San Angelo officials to admit in writing that Leif pfluger's rooftop sign has been in violation of City Sign code violations for many years those same officials launched an illegal campaign of outrageous lies and intimidation attempts against me in an effort to silence my public exposure of their corruption city manager Daniel Valenzuela is ultimately responsible for the last 10 years of related corruption since at least January of this year Daniel Valenzuela City attorney Teresa James and her husband John James who is director of the city's planning and development services department have repeatedly refused to provide a legally legitimate explanation regarding widely Pfluger as for many consecutive years gotten a city code enforcement free pass potentially worth six figures while other less wealthy and influential San Angelo residents and business owners have literally had their personal and professional livelihoods threatened by incredibly strict code enforcement additional unethical and or illegal actions by Daniel Valenzuela appeared to have recently read led to the sudden resignations of two very highly respected local community leaders serving on the sea of San Angelo Development Corporation and today's agenda indicates that another long-standing highly respected local community leader now faces potential immediate termination by this Council for recently daring to publicly expose Daniel valenzuela's questionable actions related to Cosa DC operations please correct me if this is inaccurate but I'm told the state attorney gen and the

[0:22:43] Texas Rangers have recently initiated an investigation regarding Daniel Valenzuela and the city of San Angelo municipal government for actions related to potential public corruption if Daniel Valenzuela and or City attorney Teresa James continue to refuse to provide a legally legitimate reason for failing to immediately issue signed code violation citations to Lee Pfluger I'll see to it that the AG investigators and Texas Rangers have that matter to look into as well the city council is sworn to act in the best interest of Justice on behalf of the citizens of San Angelo not to unethically protect their official Friends by pretending that those friends aren't guilty of blatant sleazy corruption not one of you has ever contacted me regarding the details of my corruption allegations and many West Texas are rightfully wondering why the sad fact is that thousands of those West Texans are confident they actually do know why the reason is the reason is complicit corruption further public comment an account to three you have a chance to still come up and make a comment one two three public comment his now stopped and we will move into our consent agenda I'm going to ask each council member if there's an item that they would like to pull from the consent agenda and I will start with Larry MK item K is been pulled done Lucy Harry no ma'am Tom yeah I actually want to pull f and Tommy all right with that may I have a motion to approve the consent agenda

[0:24:46] with the exception of item F and item K so move by Harry seconded by second Larry raised his hand Tommy had a voice we've got a double let lyrics any public comment on the consent agenda items seeing none will take a vote all of those in favor of approving consent agenda with the exception of I and K please say aye what did I say I said yes okay okay all right let's take a vote all in favor of the consent agenda say aye any opposed with none opposed that consent agenda has been approved with the exception of F and K we'll start with item F consider approving the purchase of used vehicles from various local vendors in a combined amount not to exceed eighty thousand dollars and it's not Ryan Kramer it is not I'm stepping in for Ryan Kramer this morning I'm Patrick ferric the director of operations and happy to answer any questions you may have you know Patrick that one's pretty broad how many cars what's kind of are We what's the process there because we'll get phone calls well I did get a chance to bid I didn't get a chance had just give me a brief synopsis of the process correct and it is very broad um these cars are specifically for our detective units and our undercover units of our PD and so they vary right and so what usually when we go out for bed we're bidding a specific make model and awarding that in this realm they need some variety and so we bid this that we allocate a portion of our annual equipment replacement money for this so we're looking for three to four cars depending on the market price for the detective in the undercover departments okay thank you do you want to make a motion to prove that or wait make a motion to approve okay bye time second by Karen any public comment on

[0:26:49] that item see none we will take a vote all in favor of approving item F please say aye aye any opposed hearing no opposition item f is approved seven zero we will now move into item K consider resolution in support of an application by the trans premium H2 Hub LLC in response to Department of energy funding opportunity Regional clean hydrogen hubs funding opportunity announcement dated September 22nd 2022 Michael you are on thank you mayor good morning mayor and Council Michael Dane acting economic development director uh transpermian proposes to build a clean hydrogen generation facility in the Fort Stockton area and development of a hub in the region which would support and be supported by that generation facility if you have questions they're applying for federal Monies to support in the construction of that facility this resolution is our statement our non-binding statement of support for their application for some of that Federal money you have deeper questions Roger Horton who is supporting their Grant application is here and can help us with those deeper or more detailed questions this sounds very Roger please come forward I know it's in this very early stages but I'd like to know your ideas on potential economic impact and those other areas that you are at this time ready to comment on sure just to give you a little give you a little background mmax Corporation has

[0:28:55] been around for quite a while and they've been working on the concept of blue and green hydrogen for two or three years they have about 1700 acres of land near Fort Stockton Texas that is strategically located next to the Texas Pacifico Railroad there's a natural gas pipeline that flows through the property and a large heavy AEP power line that goes over it which makes it an ideal location for this kind of facility not related to the hydrogen Hub application the mmax plan is to build a Refinery modular Refinery to refine diesel fuel and gasoline and blue and green hydrogen all in one facility so it's a there's a bigger picture there mmex is promoting this Grant application and with the doe and basically they're doing it because of of their own interest of course I mean and they're centralized to the location of this hub so we've reached out to the city of San Antonio the city of El Paso Midland and San Angelo Texas and that would create the demographic of the Hub on November the the inflation reduction Act created this opportunity there's There's 7 billion dollars has been set aside out of the inflation reduction Act to create six to ten hydrogen hubs in the U.S the amount of the amount of Grant will probably range between 500 million and 1.25 billion depending on the location

[0:30:59] and the complexity and and and whatever whatever develops from the concept papers which is what we're asking you all to support that have to be submitted by November 7th the the return time is amazingly fast on this concept paper I mean it was the inflation reduction act and I didn't know the date probably six weeks old maybe something like that but the concept paper to qualify for the grant has to be in by November 7th so we're not asking for any money we're not we're not asking for uh for anything but letters of support from each one of the involved communities in the hub as we present it my client is shouldering all of the costs and all of the application fees or whatever it goes along with this where there there may be some opportunities down the road that we that that individual industry may come back to you for that spin off of this but right now we're just looking for a letter support to get to your point I had to background you a little bit councilman the The Economic Opportunity is is it's it's Forward Thinking right now uh under under the uh under the current operations plan for mmex frankly most of what they want to produce will be export uh Europe and in particular Japan has a keen interest and and products that would come from this facility Roger could you tell specifically how the city of San Angelo will benefit from this um as best I can that's what we're interested in yeah the uh the

[0:33:03] Mr Looney and I are working on a project right now with uh with a uh with a company that would be directly connected although not part of the mmex corporation but would be listed in the in the concept paper and it would it would employ a significant number of people at uh at at good paying jobs right to be blunt I think we're talking probably somewhere north of 200 jobs and that would that would have a direct impact on on San Angelo do we have questions for Roger I think you've done an excellent job in giving us the estimation we need us trying to be as informative but it's hard for you to make it short yes you know me well thank you Roger thanks with that may I have a motion for approval of the resolution made a motion seconded by Lucy all any public comment concerning this resolution seeing none will take a vote all of those in favor please say aye are there any opposed scene none we will move on from consent agenda with item K being approved seven zero we will now move into the regular agenda comments regarding items on the regular agenda may be made by the public when each item is discussed as outlined above applicants proponents and a balance are exempt from the time limit above and instead must limit their remarks to less than five minutes mayor yes Tommy I have a question for the City attorney sure Teresa may an item be removed from consideration oh yeah we do that all the time frequently so you can just ask it to be removed from consideration I would ask that item C

[0:35:07] be removed from consideration unless counsel objects is there anyone on Council today that would not support removing item C for discussion today yeah I support that removal okay anybody else have concerns about removing it right then do we need to take a vote on that or do we just ma'am it just becomes a non-item we never have voted on it before okay let's move on and we'll go to item a consider accepting the proposal from core and Maine for Neptune meter infrastructure upgrades in the amount of 380 thousand dollars 908.30 for collector replacement and installation and authorizing the initial purchase of one million five hundred thousand dollars for register replacement and eight hundred thousand dollars for meter replacement for a total cost of two million six hundred and eighty dollars nine hundred and eighty for the first fiscal year of the project using one million 930 981 of the water fund balance Andy you're on good morning mayor morning Council Andy vaseliosis and director of water utilities and so what we are looking at today is water utilities as an advanced metering infrastructure system to collect our meter readings and transmit it back to our building department for water billing purposes this technology is approximately 12 years old and like any technology as it gets older you start having problems with it it doesn't have the frequent updates trying to get support is more and more difficult more and more costly so at this point we're looking at upgrading from the r450 to the r900 version 5. um and if you look at that graphic here just to give you a little background of how it works you have your water meter which is a mechanical meter that the water passes through on top of it is a little black box we'll call it that's the register so it actually records it and transmit into electronic signal it then goes to the antenna so if you've ever looked at the top of your uh your meter box you can see that little black disc there that's the antenna that then

[0:37:09] transmit it to what's called a collector Tom you with me I'm with you I wondered what that I wondered why we had to go break to move forward the water buildings we're good so it goes to the collectors right now we have nine with a superposal looking at 13 and then that transmits it back to water billing so it's very efficient way compared to the old means of going out there and manually reading meters so for this project we're looking at increasing and replacing the collectors we're looking at a five-year replacement for registers and a 10-year replacement for the water meters here's a picture of one of the new collectors we're looking at and again we'd be looking at purchasing eight new r900 V5 collectors uh corn main through Neptune the manufacturer will be providing five collectors to the city at no cost so we'll be upgrading if you will from nine collectors to 13 which would increase our ability to capture the meter readings through this system and then also as part of our proposal we're looking having a subcontractor through core main to actually install the 13 collectors be very efficient that way and also it you know provide an ability to test and get it all set up at one time uh here's a picture of the water meter with the register as I mentioned before the registers are looking at a five year replacement program so in that five years we'd have to be operating both the the r450 and the r900s at the same time but this is a feasible by budget method of replacing it and then we're looking at 10-year replacement of meters having a meter replacement program is something that a lot of water systems do water meters get old and they start reading less accurate over time right now about replacing meters throughout the entire city yes ma'am yes ma'am so from a budget search standpoint we're looking at from 10 years typically a water meter has a 10 to 20

[0:39:11] year life span they also say a million gallons right now our method is if we observe a problem from the billing software then we send people out and go look at it so this is a proactive means of replacing our meters that are 10 years old or some of them are even older some of our larger meters aren't even on our Ami system right now and so this is to help address that the benefits of going to the 900 version 5 is first of all we're going to increase and improve the accuracy and efficiency of our water meeting water metering system right now again we're starting to see some degradation of the system so we're proactively trying to approach this as opposed to waiting it to continue getting down the road and getting worse and worse and then the existing system has just reached the end of its useful life the graphic you see there in the orange this is from 2017 through 2022 the Orange is the number of manual read meters we've had to do in the month of August over a six year span so you can continue to see that orange is growing and growing meaning our our customer service folks are having to go out there and manually more and more meters taking away from their other responsibilities so the project approach uh 380 908 and 30 cents was for the new collectors again I mentioned we purchased an eight of them five of them we provided no cost and the installation uh then a register replacement for five years uh starting with the first year at 1.5 million dollars and then meters the first year at eight hundred thousand for a total uh first year cost of 2 680 908 dollars and thirty cents and so with that I'd like to see if there's any questions do I have questions Tom what are those 13 units cover the entire city that is correct yes uh if I remember right so they've done what they call it a prop study and um currently you saw that one graphic we're getting about 75 coverage I believe it was in the 95 93 so it's

[0:41:16] gonna be a significant increase of of uh reading through the Ami system for the questions Tom it's going to take and I'm not complaining it's just to understand it's going to take 10 years to do the entire replacement throughout the city is that what you indicated for the meters yes for the registers five and part of it is we're going to be doing it with our staff so that means we have to balance that with the rest of their responsibilities currently so again we feel that budget wise and Personnel wise this is a reasonable feasible approach Aaron do you have a question or comment the question about the lifespan of the the units initially okay yeah as I mentioned industry standards 10 to 20 years um but kind of a wide range there yes ma'am well and like any mechanical part sometimes the lifespan of one specific item can range over a wide wide number of years so one million gallons is also kind of the estimate so you also note that the total cost of the project is uh two million six eighty nine eighty and 30 cents and that you're going to use one million nine hundred thirty nine eighty one of an existing water fund balance can you account for the remainder of the cost in that first year so right now we have 39 approximately 39.3 million dollars in fund balance so we're looking at utilizing some of those funds to kick start this project further questions or comments go ahead Lucy the last time these Majors were replaced on a wholesale meter change I can't answer that I know back in 20 I think it was 2010 when we put this r450 system in they replaced a lot of them but I also know we have some old meters from a different manufacturer that predated even our current Ami system so that's part of the reason we're looking at

[0:43:18] wholesale changeouts okay further questions or comments then may I have a motion for approval of item a some move by Harry may I have a second do I have a second second by Karen any public comment on this item Anna bartash single member district one maybe I'm not understanding but they last 10 to 20 years and this is for replacing so once you get done replacing you're gonna this must be gonna be an ongoing project because when you're finished replacing 10 years down the road the beginning ones already expired again so is that I mean whether it's 10 or 20 or somewhere in between like 18 I mean that's the problem when I say it sounds like it's an ongoing project because once you get them in which will take you 10 years to get them in now you got to start over again yes ma'am we had the same problem the streets as well we have to do the seal code and come right back well Andy we don't last for forever is the problem forever is not in this conversation Andy would it be a fair assumption to say that private residential households would use them less than commercial those would probably last closer to 20. the commercial usage would last closer to 10. it's all based upon the usage of the meter if you're based on usage and yes absolutely and I believe approximately 80 percent of our meters are the 5 8 which are the standard residential so again these are these are generalizations um some will last less than 10 years it's just mechanical Parts it you know it could last 30 I mean it's all things purchase we have some over 20 years in the system right now yeah we're good all right so I had a motion and a second

[0:45:22] I've had public comment or is there more public comment I should say before I move on saying none then we will take a vote all in favor of approving item a please say I are there any opposed with none opposed the motion is approved seven zero we'll move into Item B discussing discussion and possible action on Animal Services operations including spray neuter enforcement and compliance animal capacity and facility capacity needs and we have our family services Morgan here to speak to us today good morning morning what we have before you today is it's a hit on a few items we've been busy the last 60 days revamping a lot of the things that we do and addressing some needs to bring to the council and so we wanted to touch on today is first to talk about spay neuter enforcement and compliance and what's going on with that what changes we've recently made we also wanted to talk about the animal capacity and the recent policy to set a finite amount of cats and dogs on the premises and we'll close with facility Capital needs as we identify those through this recent process Morgan would you start with by describing the purpose of the animal shelter what is the purpose Animal Services was created to prevent the spread of disease from animals to humans so it's essentially a public health and Public Safety component as a mature City that values quality of life we were also charged to pursue life-saving programming so we also aim to meet families where they are identify services to help them retain and keep their pets as well as to adopt out those pets that have no owner okay so first update we have for you all is related to spay neuter enforcement so there of course is a local ordinance that provides that owners are

[0:47:24] responsible and must carry the expense of to spay neuter their pets so this is any cat or dog that is over four months of age there are a few exceptions for example if your pet is medically fragile we just ask for you know veterinarian's record stating that a few other exemptions would be military and law enforcement canines are not required to be spay neutered if you are an AKC registered show dog and it's required for your animal to be intact that's also an exception under the ordinance there's a number of exceptions but by and large most families must comply we do ask that they make that investment in the health of their pet and also take that action to prevent unwanted litters so when we have a pet in the shelter do we release them without enforcing the spray neuter that's in the ordinance we enforce it so we we're legally prohibited from withholding someone's property from them a state law does Define cats and dogs as property and so someone comes forward and says hey that's my dog that you're calling Heidi then we would be legally required to release that animal to them and then we notify them of the ordinance at that time we can issue citations hey your pet came in and was unaltered so we're going to go ahead and cite you for failure to spay neuter our preference is and what we ordinarily do is we educate families the vast majority of San Angelo and still today don't know that it is legally required so we want to educate you hey you are required to spay neuter this pet We There are some low-cost options that we can refer you to we're going to give you a deadline to get that item complete and so our prior practice was we wanted them to avoid those Court cause and to instead take that those funds and invest them in their Pet's health and then follow up by issuing a citation but we did we form we have for informed them at the time we give them their pet back that the ordinance requires them to spray and neuter and we neuter their pets and they would use citation if they

[0:49:27] don't but how do you follow up on that to make sure that they have sprayed and neutered so the to confirm the spay neuter the owner is required to provide that to us in the past we would call we would go by we would knock doors hey you haven't provided your um your proof yet we're looking for that information and to the extent that they hadn't provided it or hadn't made progress yet we would go ahead and cite at that time but as you can imagine once someone knows they're in violation and knows that we're trying to get a hold of them they're non-responsive to those calls and and door knockings and so we did get a change to that process to kind of close the loop that now we're filing complaints through our municipal prosecutor um it's essentially a citation in the mail and and so we are collecting all that information at the first interaction with the citizen that we need to file on and in the event that they don't provide that proof of spay neuter we would then file a complaint through the Municipal Court where they have to appear hey that you still haven't spay neutered your pet or you have and please bring that proof with you they go to municipal court and they don't have proof of spray or neuter what happens next hey I said spray spay can you correct all the times I've just said that word and said it wrong could you do that for me could you edit it because I don't want to be accused of not knowing what I'm talking about hey not spray thank you so when the citizen appears before the Municipal Court um the municipal prosecutor is there to present the case I I um and it's in the court system at that point wait a minute Larry Lucy raised her hand ask you a question can you please walk me through the process of when someone either gives comes and drops off their dog at the shelter or y'all pick a dog up I

[0:51:30] want I want to understand what your procedure is so an owner bringing in a dog we do have a process approved by our animal shelter advisory committee we're owned pets to intake at the shelter have to go through a process so there's a counseling we try to refer you to Services we try to match you with resources you can keep your pet and then you're put on a wait list if you are approved at some point for a shelter intake so for owned pets just just walking in the front counter with your pet we do ask you to participate in a process to re-home your pet the vast majority of our intake are stray animals that 70 of our animals are brought in by citizens across the front counter they found a dog they found a cat they bring it to the shelter we then of course look for identifying tags scan for microchip look at local loss and found found sites and and social media groups to try to identify an owner when an owner is identified we call that individual please come in and get your pet and at that point we we notify them of the law there are actually several items required under local ordinance and so in that first interaction with the citizen we say whether it's at the shelter across the front counter or in the field hey I caught your dog he's a block from your home I'll just meet you there and so at that point we notify them that hey your pet's got to have a current rabies vaccine your pet's got to be microchipped if not already and it and it needs to be spay neutered and at that point the citizen may say well yes here's my rabies certificate or um yes I have this exemption under the spay neuter ordinance and so we'll start working through the compliance for that specific family at that time so how long do you give them to take care of all is it um so if you're redeeming your pet at the shelter it's leaving microchipped so one of your three items is complete we do sell microchips for 13 and so we ask citizens to participate in that um

[0:53:33] they're at the time of redeeming their pet and so you have the rabies vaccine and the spay neuter are what's left we do refer folks to the Contra Valley Paws low cost option to buy a low-cost voucher and as long as you can show like I've scheduled my appointment I've gotten the rabies vaccine um then then we're going to just continue following up and and appreciate you you know taking progress towards gaining compliance um but if a citizen indicates well no I'm not going to do that I'm not going to spay neuter my pet I then we would just issue a citation at that time we don't give a grace period um were you able to give a citation yourself I am yes and my animal services officers are as well and so but in general we're wanting to give a grace period hey you weren't aware of the ordinance we want to give you some time we give 10 days to show progress on scheduling those appointments I'm completing those deliverables what is the prog the process of whenever you how do you find out that these people have not done as you asked or they haven't gotten their patented or spayed they're just out there how do you keep up with those people well our pet management software has all of that data so I'll have the pets name and identifying information I'll have the owner's name and identifying information including their date of birth driver's license I'll have all of that in our pet management software um and it's the owner's responsibility to provide that proof within the 10 days when you give him these vouchers what are they worth the vouchers we're referring the city doesn't have a voucher program so we're referring them to non-profits um to purchase vouchers through their program Larry let's get back to the Municipal Court okay they've made it that far they're ignoring everything where can this ultimately end is it a misdemeanor local ordinance violation would be a misdemeanor at what level

[0:55:38] they're all class C's we only prosecute Class C misdemeanors and I just want to add at this point that um I don't know if Morgan knows this but we are hiring a part-time temporary person to help with the backlog on the spay neuter citations that are out there um I've used currently my intern but I like my interns to have like a broad-based learning experience so I don't want to keep them on one project too long but we have an interview this afternoon and we're hoping that that person will be able to we'll meet with Morgan and that person to um develop a better process to more efficiently move those folks through Municipal Court we also require them to provide proof of either an appointment which we then follow up on later or some sort of documentation that the the pet has been altered before we would dismiss the citation one other observation I've checked on the price of chipping a dog with veterinarians around town 13 bucks is incredibly cheap best deal in town uh I heard forty dollars at local vets we register the chip for you and so whatever information you provide at that time of implant we register for and any changes you make if you move if you want to add a different emergency contact if you've rehomed the pet all of that is a service offered at no cost no annual fee Karen Morgan I correct me if I'm wrong but I think you mentioned a wait list for intake if an animal is surrendered to the shelter is that did I hear you correctly our owners surrender uh process can lead you to be being put on a a wait list ideally we want your pet re-homed and that's part of our contract with contra Valley Paws that ideally we want your pet rehomed directly from your home to the adopter home and so when we go through Support Services like why do you want to give up your pet are you experiencing a financial issue does your pet have some behavior issues can we offer some resources to try to match those things and let's see if that works out and you can retain ownership of your pet if that um or you have an unwanted litter of puppies then let's get them in for

[0:57:39] vaccines let's start marketing them for adoption or transport and so ideally those animals are coming into our umbrella of care without a proper shelter intake and then those animals are going directly to their home so they're avoiding stress they're avoiding disease and then the pet owner is still getting you know the the service that they're needing so a shelter intake would be a last resort for any owned pet it should be the least desirous outcome that I have one further question you mentioned the 10-day period that the citizen is given if they're in violation of the ordinance and that you have multiple bits of information in your database that allows you to keep track of these people but what happens at 10 days do they if you haven't heard from them is a ticket automatically generated that's the backlog we're working through a filing complaints through Municipal Court yes Harry follow-up on what Teresa and Larry said just for my edification a few months have we increased the number of citations that we're getting because of the violations that are out there absolutely I want citizens to understand that what this council is doing and supporting Animal Services is something that we're going to continue to do and for those citizens that are not responsible they are going to be cited and we're going to we're going to continue to follow up on that and that's one thing that prompted this you know we want to be a partner to families in need we want to meet families where they are we want to refer them to Services we want to we want to invest in their pet ownership we want them to retain ownership of their pet but fiscal year 22 was was a tough year for the shelter it was tough really Nationwide particularly for shelters in the South and it was canines under six months of age and so it's it's a direct result of families unable or unwilling

[0:59:43] to participate in the spay neuter requirement and so we we've tried the friendly route we've tried to be a partner we've tried referring to low-cost options and at this point we we had to just say during violation you're subject to a citation that that's that is what we're pursuing now I think I understand that on a national basis that animal shelters across the country are going through the same thing we're going through that many people adopted pets during coven Etc or because of inflation right now families can't afford the care the cost of taking care of a pet it doesn't solve our problem here but we need to understand it is a nationwide problem and we've got to find answers to it locally but it's because and that's one of the reasons why in the past we've had people come to San Angelo pick up 20 dogs for example and take it back to their home where they had people ready to adopt them some of that's become more complicated due to most cities having the same problem right now is that correct yes our trans words are remains strong a thousand animals did leave on transport in fiscal year 22 but in recent months it is dwindling significantly and we expect it to continue to do so transports are highly seasonal during Hurricane Season we are bumped for those natural disasters which of course is appropriate but transports you know 2 25 27 percent of our animals were leaving every year on transport and that's well above best practices and the reason why it's not recommended to be that low is because we're very vulnerable to those receiving communities that if they say we're full we're done we don't have those live outcomes for the animals here developed locally and so we did increase the number of animals leaving by adoption last year and we'll continue to do so because those transports are very much at risk of no longer being an opportunity for us um we've interrupted your presentation several times so my apologies but at the same timely to answer those questions

[1:01:48] but at this point do we have other questions for her before we move on uh yes we do I have some questions mama I think she may be getting ready to address them right here on the capacity side so I'll I'll wait I'll hold one question until she goes through that that's what I had on spay neuter enforcement and and compliance the next section I wanted to touch on is related to animal capacity that again Nationwide there's a national group called shelter animals count and they warned us in January you guys it's going to be a tough year you did not have your slow season in the winter like you normally do to be frank they said Texas is going to be a bloodbath you guys do not have the live outcomes to keep Pace with your intake and so we had this High puppy intake that I referenced in Winter 2021 and so when we began our busy season in May June we were already people and so we were publicly sharing that with the community and saying look we're over capacity we're at capacity we need help um and so we ended the summer with our evacuation for the pest infestation and that really prompted setting a finite policy of how many animals we can house on the property and just to find a maximum number of dogs and a maximum number of cats that no matter what we're gonna of course always observe and pursue life-saving programming but in the event that we are over 180 dogs and 120 cats we would need to consider you know putting out an urgent plea or potentially euthanizing for space so I do have them the math of how we derived and arrived at those specific figures we also um received approval to house an additional 20 dogs in exigent circumstances with an expiration of one week and what we mean by that is there are times that we have a hoarding case come in or we have a house fire with you know a half a dozen dogs in it um or um some combination thereof and so if we

[1:03:52] can say look we're over for a minute we've had an event this thing happened we had a lot of canine intake but be able to be able to put out that plea for Rescue and say can someone come forward for these dogs who can foster who can take a transport but we've got to get them moving within a week to get back down to that 180 or less we also spoke to length of stay that any kind of maximum length of stay or policy about length of stay would be determined by routine assessments of each animal's needs just being able to identify those individual needs of that animal the the temperament and demeanor and stress of a shelter environment impacts every dog differently and so to be able to say that we will of course consider euthanizing for length of stay if that is what the animals only live outcome is at that point or an only outcome is at that point is there's there's no longer an opportunity for adoption because of the animals um digressing um uh temperament and so we would consider euthanasia for length of stay for those animals at that time and we are doing routine assessments already to identify those issues so animals aren't you know warehoused and kept with no care pathway of where they're going and so the way we arrived at that specific formula of 180 dogs and 120 cats is a good rule of thumb is that every animal should be getting 15 minutes of care per day 15 minutes per animal per day the ASPCA further defines that nine minutes of that should be cleaning um the animals get lots of care in lots of different ways but nine minutes of it should be cleaning and so really the capacity or the threshold or the ceiling that we're bumping up against is Staff time how much staff do we have how many hours are they logging daily and so when we have um sick shelter workers which is what I'm able to consistently fill I'm budgeted for more but we want it to be realistic right what jobs am I actually filling

[1:05:54] um that would be 48 hours a day or 2700 minutes per day and at nine minutes per animal day per day the rough math is 306 animals we of course did not want to be at the maximum and so we recommended uh the 300 animals broken down at 180 and 120 for the different species Morgan and these six shelter workers are the ones that are actually doing the cleaning we're not talking about the front front desk person or anything like that these are individuals right that of course our shelter assistant three is providing daily care in the way of by daily meds our shelter supervisors providing care in in processing and assessments um I'm providing care like ever lots of people in a day are touching these animals but these are specifically those tasked with cleaning um kennels disinfecting removing waste yes Dan yes please Michael one of the rescues we talked to uh Quantified or talked about um um a ratio of staff to animals that they cared for and they had a ratio the ratio they talked to would have required more shelter workers than this they they expected to have many more shelter workers than this for this many animals so The Proposal is to be very efficient and I'm not sure where she's going with the rest of the slides but she's being very efficient with this and so war is not a number so requesting more is not a number but I also picked up on what you said there would you go back to that screen you say you have six shelter workers but you're budgeted for more you can staff as many as you want if you can't hire them it doesn't matter how many we've budgeted for so we can obviously look at a budget issue relative to how many she needs but if we can't get them hired and get them

[1:07:57] in there it doesn't really matter because how many are you budgeted for eight sell your budget for two more which you haven't been able to hire well it's it's in a constant state of flux so I may have someone select it and so um it's it's a constant Recruitment and Retention effort many of the city's entry-level jobs are do we have the availability we have several organizations in town who work in the animal services shelter Foster Etc is it possible to get them to donate one staff member per day to help us through this I mean they're they're there to get the end game of not euthanasia so I would hope that we could feel some of that need in that way I'm sorry Morgan I didn't mean to bug you I just pointing out that one of the rescues said more workers was part of the solution and and I don't know that she's going to ask for anything but Lucy go ahead yeah mortgage programs come in and help out with the shelter we do and um the the volunteer program is run through our contract with contra Valley pause and the volunteer program is not for cleaning though that that's been clearly identified as a um a city function a core function um there is some uh training and commitment that's needed for that and we're we're doing this uh cleaning at times a day that volunteers are not frequently available like at 7 A.M on a Wednesday most volunteers have other obligations so we we do have a a volunteer program and do get a lot of support from it but this is something we would identify as you know a core function of the city oh the uh we had Larry volunteers essentially there for physical human touch loving up animals those kinds of

[1:10:00] things the volunteers do a lot of enrichment dog walking um uh Support Services in that way but as far as especially a lot of our dogs are our brand new arrivals we don't know their temperament yet some of our dogs are identified in our rabies quarantine room we are housing easily half of our cats are at any time are fractious feral cats and so those are items that it would not be a good match for your average volunteer do we have other questions for Morgan or comments at this point yes go ahead Tommy he answered part of it I had the opportunity to go out there and visit some with Morgan and she gave me a tour of the facility if if the council has not been out there recently I would recommend you go out there it's uh it's an eye-opening experience um you might be getting ready to go there and tell us maybe what some of your needs are is that something you're going to visit with us about and I'm not trying to hurry you along but just if you if you weren't I was going to ask a couple of questions about a couple more slides on capacity and maybe maybe that'll speak to it um just a minute Morgan Lucy Had a comment she wanted to make I had a comment and it just went out the door with us listening to all these questions he'll come back it'll come back to me go ahead Morgan so just to close up the discussion on animal capacity one thing that we're getting additional training on is identifying care Pathways for all animals on intake that of course we honor a stray hold we try to return to owner then we place up for adoption but it can be more nuanced and and have more detail on it than that and so we are getting training and a lot of mentorship from our national groups to really clearly Define care Pathways for animals so that animals aren't just languishing waiting for their adoption we're a lot more proactive in that as as we have been doing we will continue euthanasia for behavior and untreatable medical uh one thing that continues to come up about no kill programming or life-saving programming is that we're putting reactive animals back out to the

[1:12:03] community and but no kill programming is defined as 90 percent um because there are those animals that are not adoptable should not go back in our community that we would not you know place in a foster home and we caution owners that do own bite dogs that they've got to take an additional responsibility uh related to those animals and to to the so to date we have decreased our canine population over a hundred animals and maintains that for almost 60 days now and that has been entirely through life-saving programming and I think that's important to hear that going into this Pest Control treatment we were carrying about 280 dogs we put out an urgent plea for rescue who can foster a dog for seven days who can step forward in that way and so many of our animals were adopted through that process um so many Fosters continued to stay on and house animals for us and so as of close a business yesterday uh month end we were at 178 dogs so to date we have not euthanized for time or space we have met all deliverables entirely through life-saving programming and will continue to do so we were prepared we were quite close right 178 is very close to 180 and so we were preparing a euthanasia list to share publicly and with rescue Partners to say these animals are the ones that will be euthanized at Monday close of business if they do not have a rescue tag and are not coming claimed from the shelter so we do have a policy for that we will clearly communicate that and we will be the shelter this community wants us to be so far San Angelo Owens have had their resources to come out in force and support us but to the extent San Angelo and say I'm at my limit I can't help any longer than we would be euthanizing for space to meet and maintain that um that standard of 180 dogs and 120 cats one thing the council could consider is if we were to close canine intake if we were at 170 dogs to say look we're at our limit 180 is a cap we've got to stay under that one thing the council could

[1:14:07] also consider is funding a monthly Amnesty Day as we reached out to other shelters in this situation we said you know what are y'all doing what are the Creative Solutions and so one of the things that they're offering is a get out of jail free card for owned pets and so if a family says I know myself my pet's in the shelter but I can't afford the fees I know y'all are going to write me a ticket um I'm not coming just keep my pet I'm not coming and so if I can say look let me refer I think I think Contra Valley Paws is committed to them getting spay neuter vouchers uh getting the it will get them a rabies vaccine get them a microchip at no cost from the city and then waiving those fees to be able to say today November 1st is our first day Amnesty Day if your pet's in the shelter we're going to at you with Services we're going to get you all these resources and we're gonna get your pet back to you and then it's no longer in the shelter taxpayer dollars aren't caring for an owned pet and that animals back home and no longer taking a place in the shelter are all rescue groups working with us I know we have the contract with Paws but the question is they're not the only organization in town who's in the Rescue an adoption of animals so do we have cooperation from all the animal rescue groups as of August all local rescues at that point had pulled from our shelter and are welcome to continue to do so I had a dog yesterday we were so close to being at capacity and we reached out to a local rescue and they came for a particularly reactive Chihuahua that was not doing well in the shelter and needed some rehab and that's absolutely a great place for it to take effect is in a rescue that can spend that additional time with that animal and so yes we are wide open to all rescues we have a large Network Nationwide of rescues but the local ones as of August they are all signed up on the contract and have all pulled from my facility yes

[1:16:08] Morgan I remembered my question uh I have a constituent that has called me twice already on this cat issue that he has so many cats that are around and he doesn't know what to do what would be a solution for that constituent so y'all approved last year nuisance Colony assistance program and I've not yet spent all that money and so I'm working a couple of colonies for council member hessie Smith right now I'm wrapping up an area a colony on the tuwig area right now and so we a little bit have a wait list on our nuisance Colony assistance but what that citizen would get through that program is first we we contact the feeder hey you're the colony caregiver you have these responsibilities to the extent that the colony is all spay neutered and vaccinated and on their property then that is they're compliant with the ordinance at that point but what we're finding is the vast majority of colonies do need additional service and so if they do need to get the rest of their colony spay neutered then we provide traps Contra Valley Paws had an inventory of traps that Animal Services officers delivers the property owner the complainer would bait and set the Trap we would provide food and trap for them to bait and set they call us when it's occupied we pick it up at no charge it enters that nuisance Colony assistance program that you all had approved and so for the for the colony on two week as an example I think we're upwards of 20 cats that we've impounded from that Colony right now so the wild adults were spay neutering and putting back right they help keep additional animals at Bay from coming in that gets that feeder in compliance and then the ones that are young and Can Be Tamed we're keeping for adoption so that's going to decrease their pop their colony population two ways that I'm impounding the ones that can be tamed and I'm releasing the ones that cannot so that they are no longer reproducing and are keeping other cats at Bay so that's something if you'll refer them to me or email me their address we will get in contact with them

[1:18:11] and try to match them with Services it is a program that is working and because of our contract with Concho Valley Paws that they're providing those spay neuters at no cost there is money still left from y'all's original allocation for that the questions or comments at this point yes Harry you may have said this and I probably didn't hear it but I'm bullet point number two what do you mean by returning own pets I mean I mean I I suspect that that's we did that on a regular basis so what do we actually mean here we do I think the Amnesty Day would speak to some barriers that I do still have owned pets that are not getting claimed by their owners I do um you know best practices for uh for a no-kill shelter would be that 15 of your animals are returning to owner we are Head and Shoulders above that I think we finished fiscal year 22 with 24 of our animals return to owner um and so 24 a quarter of our animals are going back to their owners and that's huge and that's good and it's above best practices but it can be better every adult dog came from somewhere you know cats are can be spontaneously occurring and have no owner but every dog came from somewhere so I look at a dog and I know it has a house I know someone's poured into it I know somebody spent time with it where are their people um and so if we started funding a monthly Amnesty Day perhaps that speaks to some of those barriers of why people aren't coming for their pets um some of those barriers that we see are lack of reliable transportation and I have a fleet of trucks in the community patrolling all day so I can I can load up a dog and get it back to you um some of it is a language barrier so I do have Spanish-speaking staff that are available to assist those individuals some of it is the fees and the in general distrust of government and the fear of citations so the Amnesty Day would speak to that last item and get even more pets returned to their owners okay continue um so the last item that I had before

[1:20:15] you today are facility Capital needs and I bring this to you with the um caveat that I am not a construction manager nor an architect and I just see needs in the facility and ask a question because this this is a nice long list we just got through with the budget session based off of that we're 30 days into the new year where were the requests because these things didn't just happen the vast majority of these have been improved submitted through the capital Improvement plan annually and there were items I submitted in the budget that could not be considered for funding for this fiscal year so we shifted so the new request that I'm making um are well we didn't get those prior things funded or something else we could try for example we'd requested two additional Animal Services officers which is something we're hearing again and again we need to write more tickets we need to be in the field more but it's something that you know there are a lot of demands in the budget and no one understands that more than I do and so these Capital needs one um some of them are some of them are new and developing these last two items in particular um second the more than half of them have been submitted in the capital plan in the past um and there just hasn't been resources or or support to to move forward with them but if it is if it does gain some traction and warrant some additional attention then um we are working closely with um the city's architect um on on getting uh more details because I know that we need an air exchange system but there's a lot that goes into that and to really bring to a proper funding request I I couldn't begin to tell you what something like that would cost um and so we are we're working with the architect he has reached out to Engineering Services vendors to to get more information because there are a number of these things that we think are are right now things the the plumbing and the drains and my general kennels as well as the air exchange I think are things that need to be funded um this cycle um whether it's for next budget year or this coming Capital plan

[1:22:17] um but you know ideally we would have some level of of attention on each of these items okay so all right um yes Michael these are this is a general listing listing to make you aware that she is thinking these are the needs we are stepping through the development process for a project um and we are meeting on a weekly basis to determine a strategy the plumbing is key at this point in the air exchange system both we anticipate will be expensive at least tens of thousands and so again I just you know we just got through and and I'm not go ahead she has she has set aside some money that she's been we've been rolling over and so we don't we we don't know what this is going to look like when it's done this is more in the heads up kind of a slide not a I'm asking for something slide but just to make you aware that there are some capital needs out there and we're working on a plan and a strategy that we will we would come back to you on later but the proper channels yes Harry I'm here um yes Morgan just having been out there and and walking through the facility with you are are any of these things critical to the health and safety aspect of not only the animal But ultimately to the mayor's first question of you you know what is the purpose of an animal services in any City and it's for the health and safety of the citizens so are any of these items on this list something that you would say ultimately this could be a health and safety issue not only for the animals themselves but

[1:24:21] also for our citizens yes there there are facility needs that are limiting our ability to meet our our basic and core function to the community and providing for the the public health and the public safety that if these needs were addressed we could do our job better for the citizens um absolutely you know it occurs to me [Music] um we've we've had some some excess sales tax that I know we've used it for roads in the past but this may be something maybe we need to consider once you get a better handle on costs something that you come to us and say you know this is this is a need for health and safety issues that maybe then we we could look at something like that that's just just some food for thought well if you were requesting it in the budget but we said there wasn't enough money in the budget to do it this year what was the dollar amount you were requesting that was unfunded I I don't have that with me I know two Animal Services officers um would be you know in excess of a hundred thousand dollars as well as their you know trucks and and gear so um the others I apologize I didn't bring that with me for the questions or comments at this point Karen I I just wanted to speak in support of what Tom Tommy has already said I also have spent time with Morgan visiting the shelter taking a comprehensive tour looking at the deficits in the building the building itself actually is is not a great building and so remedy remediating issues in a in a building that's a declining property is is also an issue in into Morgan's credit there are things on here that are pretty essential and she hasn't even included them so I realize it's a general list but we are

[1:26:24] aware and we are in support I am in support of you having what you need to to make life safety the critical need that it is address address it as it should be if you're saying it's essential why isn't it on here well if it's essential I can give an example she doesn't have adequate wiring to support a commercial washer and dryer she's operating the shelter with a home a residential a single residential washer and dryer and that remedy would be fairly simple to do and fairly inexpensive the rewiring that would facilitate hooking up commercial equipment is not terribly costly and I believe Morgan told me that someone donated commercial equipment to her but she was unable to use it for that reason so you can correct me I probably misunderstood some of it but every day the amount of laundry that you have is probably astonishing because of your cleaning needs do you have money in the budget this discretionary is that correct yes the project the council member hasi Smith's describing is is quite large um and we we did get way down the road on it and and finally identified that it wasn't a good fit we also think that by maintaining proportion dryer weren't a good fit or well we have a designated laundry room the commercial units do not and with two washers and two dryers the commercial units physically don't fit in that room so we would have to install in a new room an add-on room outside the building somehow um also any kind of maintenance service agreement it's it's tough to get that in our community there's not a readily available vendor to do that and it's not a skill set that any City you know Building Maintenance staff has to maintain those units we also if we're setting our capacity and have set our capacity at 180 dogs and we build out appropriate kennel space right now my small dogs are in what I call Cubbies my new intake dogs are in Cubbies that is not ideal they should be in proper intake kennels in which case they wouldn't have Linens and they wouldn't be we wouldn't be using soft um soft things they would have their

[1:28:28] plastic beds the corunda beds and there wouldn't be any more laundry and so the laundry was something that we did make the decision to move on from and do foresee a future where it's essentially a non-issue you know I think the saddest part about this conversation is that obviously this animal services issue is a community issue and that we're having to and will be having to use tax dollars from citizens who do take care of their animals who do do the right thing to take care of the problem of those citizens who do not choose to do the right thing and put the burden on the city to the I mean and I look at this laundry list laundry as we were talking about laundry list of items it's quite expensive and it's going to be quite expensive so we're going to have to use taxpayer dollars to take care of a facility um that is as I said taking care of people who won't do the right thing and I'm not sure but if I looked at this list I'm probably looking at close to two million bucks we don't have two million bucks I mean we have some money but we don't have two million dollars and again it's two million dollars it might be used for other things that all citizens might benefit from such as infrastructure on the streets police are fire and I love animals I get the passion here but there's an obviously a large number of citizens in this city that don't have passion for animals and they expect the city to Bear the financial burden for this and I think it's similar to other departments the police department for example a good many San Angelo Owens never have to visit it never have to interact with an officer but are paying a substantial taxes to support it and so

[1:30:32] um we're created because there's not that Private Industry to pick it up and we do those that can't afford taxes and are responsible are my adopters and my Fosters and my volunteers and so we are serving two very different worlds marginalized people and large taxpayer people no I understand that I'm just saying coming up with the kind of dollars it's going to take to do this is taking money away from other areas of the city San Angelo who because we only have X amount of money I mean there's only x amount of money in a budget so whenever you have to address these issues which obviously we do it's our responsibility it's taken money away from other things that might we might have chosen to fund instead but now can't because of the crisis here so we need to do a really good job of communicating the issue at the animal shelter in terms of what the animal shelters purposes what we need the citizens to do again it's not everybody's responsibility who's a good pet owner to take care of somebody else's pet because all of a sudden they can't yes Harry just a quick comment from somebody that's a numbers guy I would suggest that Morgan put together the numbers on these things especially those that Tommy mentioned that were could be health and safety situations bring him back let's see what the cost is and then let's see whether or not there's there's money somewheres and that we can we can dedicate to that I mean the bottom line from our perspective is I think everybody up here wants to do the right thing wants to support the shelter and what they do but we need to know what that cost is that the is are there more slides Morgan

[1:32:37] do we have more questions or comments for yes Larry this gets back to a really basic thing you've got uh six people who are working there doing the dirtiest work that I can imagine I don't like the idea we just throw up our hands and say well we can't fill the other two positions what can we do and I think we need to be creative to a degree about it because I think it's cruel to those people that are working overtime to keep that place clean when there may be some options for us to consider on how to fill that void the recent changes change a city plan certainly have made the job more attractive and so we're in the infancy of posting under that new dollar amount and able to recruit for a higher rate of pay and we also increased recently our our part-time positions to be a higher rate of pay as well and so we we just we those have been in the recent last couple of months and we do think that given the letting those times those items have time to work um I think I'm right now recruiting for six positions across the division um and so it's we've got several that will fill this month and then the continued recruitment of these jobs in particular I think we need to let those items work I think the investment and the pay plan and the change in how we've posted the jobs will will create some some additional attention I think we need to make sure we're doing all we need to do in terms of public announcements and because again we can't keep funding we will continue to fund the issue but at some point we've got to make a much stronger pitch towards the citizens on their responsibilities including from the day you make a decision as a family to adopt or to go out and get a pet for the family what the expected expenses what the costs are going to be just in the first six months that you have a pet

[1:34:40] it puppies are cute they're wonderful so are little baby kittens but they're expensive and they take a lot of time care and money and we need to be very focused on communicating that to the public about I know your child wants a puppy I know I know how cute they are I know what a great friend an animal can be to your family but can you afford it and it's a 15-year commitment so we need to be very upfront about the cost of owning a pet need to be very aggressive yes Tom Morgan we'll go with this we're looking at the low the low hanging fruit here that we can do something quick to kind of take the weight off the shoulders of Staff out there number one would be basically reducing your inventory caseload the number of pets out there the amnesty thing is is a fine it's a great idea now my concern there is you're probably I don't know in the Blue Book the animal shelter is like one 1.4 1.5 million dollar expense it has revenues of oh barely over a hundred thousand I think would doing the amnesty if we did an amnesty program would that decrease your revenues to where it affects your budget going forward in a monthly Amnesty Day we had estimated about 10 people participating per day and so we are looking at 210 dollars in City expense and twenty six hundred dollars in Lost revenue and that's to give a free microchip and to waive the fees so we would foresee that to be a quite nominal impact to our budget to offer such a program so tell me you think it'll affect it or not I mean um if it's not going to be that much of an issue I would say bring that back to us throw us up some real numbers but the amnesty part looks like we could decrease your caseload to decrease the need for you know inventory and pets and things per day we could do that so I'm all in favor if you bring something like

[1:36:42] that back really quick we might be able to help out yes Lucy how many dunks do you have that would require that amnesty program if we went with that um the number of owned dogs that the owners would qualify for the program it could be all 178 dogs every dog came from somewhere so um the number of dogs in my facility that are microchipped and tagged that owners haven't come for is less than 10. um if we have a lead on an owner if we see it on a lost and found site if we if it has a tag or a microchip we're following up multiple times we're asking you know what can we do for you to get your pet back um but it's the untagged unchipped pets that that we just have no leads on that we we can't follow up on so um out of 178 dogs the the any of them over four or six months of age were were owned by somebody somebody invested in them somebody had them in their home um and they had a name and those people should be getting their pets back what's the negative impact on the general fund for the animal shelter well it'd be that that net difference between the the revenue and any and the expenditure we're already spending a million too to operate the animal shelter absolutely my tax taxpayer dollars taxpayer dollars going 1.2 million to operate the animal shelter that may then that may make some sense then to have some of these needs addressed even though we may be taking money either out of reserves or maybe out of uh excess sales tax to maybe then ultimately and decrease that impact to the city budget so maybe that's something yes we can do all of that but our problem is you know that stuff is yeah just

[1:38:44] but the problem is the number of animals that keep showing up it it's so we get rid of 50 50 more come in we get rid of 20 20 more come in the issue is the intake the amount of intake of animals in this city and I I think there are other government facilities that say we're full the the the contribution from the taxpayers is a finite amount this is what we're going to pay to house our animals and if we're over 170 and we say we're full I'm so sorry this dog you found um we're not taking it in um or you have a list if we say that to someone do you have a list of all the organizations that exist today that they could go visit and hope that one of them would take the dog in for adoption for future adoption not all at a vehicle with an unknown temperament driving at six miles across town to my facility um and me holding it and hoping that an owner comes forward the best case scenario is that animal stays in its home neighborhood we post on either the Ring app and the neighborhood app and the different things like that and get that animal back home I think you must have the meeting room bugged this is exactly what we talked about managing how do we manage intake and she said they manage intake by shutting intake down when you're full you don't take any more animals and so do we currently use that policy we don't and that's why you're full if we're full what do we do when we're full if we don't tell them we can we can't take them I put out an urgent plea for Fosters and rescues and I or a youth and ice for space the capacity is still so new to us so we're we're walking through it we're figuring it out and so to date um those what is the word capacity mean I mean it's this 180. I know but is capacity capacity would you like to try that for a month and get a report back and I'd like Council input on that Limited at 170 and say we're full absolutely well just she's her capacity

[1:40:48] is 180 but at 170 she stops accepting people walking animals through the front door it's gonna make some people mad but I mean we have to look at the overall picture of it and what it accomplishes in the long term just not the short-sighted part so I would have no problem supporting a 170 limit to where she says we can't take anymore I mean organ you're in a tough position and I know today is a tough conversation to have with us so you have support from this Council to help try to solve the issue but I think we also have to have some hard questions asked and we have to deal with some issues that are not going to be liked by some people but again we got to deal with the problem we will try to solve the operational um issues that you have um and and will look seriously at those but our biggest issue still goes back to capacity and how many we have room for and how we deal with what the word capacity means capacity means we're full so if 180 is full 180 is full right let me ask you when you use the word in or we've been using the word intake you used the phrase dropping them off when we use the word intake is intake only dropping them off or is intake other things as well I had a very recent conversation with someone that called and they couldn't come get the dogs and so forth would that be considered intake as well yes any animal coming in but in San Angelo in particular we are skewed high at across the counter intake 70 percent of my animals come in every year from citizens finding them and bringing them

[1:42:50] to me we're a community of helpers people want to intervene they want to get that animal the help they need and so we have shared a lot of communications about a shelter and takes not the best opportunity for that animal if you want to invest in that animal so the the vast majority of our intake is Citizens finding and bringing across the front counter then there's always that risk of is it really a found pet or is it their dog sometimes they get a dog in and it's quite reactive with my staff and even my skilled staff is like this dog's growling at me this dog's trying to bite me I'm like how did private citizen find it and get it in her vehicle well we do some more researching and it was actually you know her own dog that she didn't want anymore they falsified a document so 70 of our intake is across the front counter 30 is from our Animal Services officers uh patrolling um and and for our Animal Services officers they have a great um uh return to owner rate in the field so the animals actually never brought into the shelter were knocking doors we're looking up water customers we're we're trying to contact folks and say look there's this brown dog in front of your house is it yours oh it's your neighbor's in the White House great we'll reach out to them and so if we can skew that the other way where 70 of my intake is actually Animal Services officers then they get them home quite quickly um in in San Angelo and you know step back and and don't intervene in that way so 70 percent of the intake is someone who says I found this pet and I'm bringing it in for you to take care of that's correct not this is my pet I can't take care of it anymore well two or whatever they say yeah I'd like some go ahead Michael then Lucy I'd like some clarity on the number so that moving forward there's not confusion 180 is the number she does have an overrun buffer in in case there is an event a fire or a puppy mill is raided and she has to she has an overrun buffer there you go 20 additional dogs in circumstances where they have to assist

[1:44:52] emergency exactly and she has a time limit associated with that so 170 what we'll do is we'll handle this from a management perspective no council action necessary that way we can reverse it management can reverse it if necessary um 170 she can shut down intake um 180 is her limit and but she can go above 180 if she has to support some sort of an event a fire or whatever but I wanted you to be aware of those numbers because there are different numbers in case you hear or see them somewhere okay thank you for that Clarity Lucy just a quick question Morgan what is the number of intake per day would you say the average it's highly seasonal so our annual intake last year was 4 000 animals that was down five percent from the year before we've been in the 4200 to 4 500 animal range for four years now this last year was the first year that we accepted intake from City Limits only so that's what we would attribute that five percent decrease to um so we took in 4 000 animals last year and the species can skew it quite a lot and so in Prior years we took in easily 500 estra livestock and this last year livestock was way down just fewer people were carrying breeding livestock because of the increased expenses with with feed and hay and the and so our Estuary livestock last year was down lot and actually increase our impacted our live release rate quite a bit because we always get a stray livestock back to their people and so hundreds of animals fewer on the livestock side um so hundreds more canines came in so the 4 000 what percent are dogs let's see 1200 ish or cats 100 were livestock and Wildlife so 2200 war dogs

[1:47:00] I don't have my calculator it's about 22 2600. this being the first day of the month we can see what how it goes for the next 30 days and you initiate the if it's if 170 is the number then 170 is the number or 180 is the absolute top limit unless you've got an exigent and we're still and we're still saying City Limits only meaning if they're in the county they cannot bring their animal into the animal shelter correct that's correct and and what happens if it's a cow inside city limits if it's if it's a loose cow inside City Limits we do bring that animal in um and and as you all mentioned we're we're a shelter in crisis we are trying to throw lots of things at this and try to fix it we've been very busy um and so one of the things longer term that we are exploring is a week-long mentorship with one of our national organizations where they come in and they tutor us on uh coordinated intake because as an example best practices for a community our size would be to be taking in 1400 animals sorry 14 animals per thousand citizens and so that would be about 1400 animals for our for our community and I'm taking in triple that annually and we're four thousand I take that in our numbers should be 1400 and we're at 4 000. so um based on that metric we were matched with some um additional resources and we are approved for that week-long mentorship to look go back to our policies and say you know what needs to be changed what can be changed um what additional support can we because if we're taking in that many animals do we have that many San Angelo Owens in crisis if my children's in crisis then we have families that are struggling and so you know what resources what other things need to be put in place to really address that big picture but for today of course we're dealing with just the most urgent emergency items but just so you all know that it is on the horizon I think if we these statistics are pretty shocking if we should be at 1400

[1:49:04] and we're at 4 000. well I think we have a real need to reevaluate policies to start addressing such an overwhelming amount of animals that is why we require the wait list for owner surrenders and in a number of other items we're gonna have to get more aggressives that numbers all over town I mean they're just in every direction that I drive they're like little packs of them and cats going across the street s because because of the changes you've made and you know a little bit more emphasis on citations uh have you seen a a drop in in the intake that you're you have and it leads me to a second question after years yes sir our intake for September was quite low it was 240 animals it hadn't been that low in over a year and a half and for the season um that was that was remarkably low uh we're usually only under 300 animals intake in like January February so definitely for September folks heard us and said we know you're a shelter in crisis October that hasn't proven uh to be true we're back to normal but definitely the the Press we were getting and the coverage we were getting did yield some changes in our operations in the end uh unfortunate circumstance that you do reach a hundred here I am I find a dog in my front yard and I run it over to you and you say well we can't handle it well I'm stuck with this animal what am I going to do with it and I can imagine most people would simply release it so that doesn't help our problem one bit so the you know we we got a lot of criticism when we closed the night drop our after hours kennels that they were just going to be dogs turned loose and different policies we've we've provided like owners have to go through a process

[1:51:08] well your criticism is that people are just going to turn their dogs loose and we've just not found that to be true and so if you find an adult dog in your front yard it's it's so highly likely he's one of these six houses around you that that owns that dog um and so it would be neighborly conversations and Grassroots and knocking doors and hey you've got to get your dog out of my yard of course we want to do all of that Outreach and and communication before you drive all the way across town to my facility and and I have to tell you no that hey we're because we're at this amount we are closed for intake if you if you see a dog leave it be if it's a danger to itself or others call us if it's if it's a Chihuahua that won't stay out of Sherwood Way if it's a large breed dog that is chasing your children for sure call us those are things that are the public health and Public Safety but in the event it's a nice dog that has wandered in your front yard he lives right here he's he's got to get home do we have I know when I go to visit a doctor I have to sign all these documents that make sure I understand everything that might happen or not happen or the liability the responsibility that I have do we have a sheet of paper that when somebody comes in to adopt that we say this dog might cost you x amount of dollars a month it's you know an annual budget for your family needs to be about this amount of money do you understand the requirements of spay and not spray but spay and neuter etc etc I mean I wonder if we're handing something to somebody and say you need to read this while you're here and then you need to sign the document there's there's absolutely a document like that that adopters are signing in there in their contract um and and to speak to the number of the spay neuter compliance it's just for owned pets for adopters you know 98 of the animals are going home spay neutered um those that aren't or signing

[1:53:10] agreement that um I I will comply with this contract um to today and have the animals spay neutered um and to the extent that you don't there are legal means to pursue through that way it does speak to the you know lifelong commitment to the animal um so there is a document like what you're describing absolutely and they have to initial each item all the way down okay well we certainly had a vibrant conversation and again I know the situation out there has been tough to handle and I know that all of us have spent a lot of time and effort in conversation with people as well as responding to emails and Tech and text messages but I I think the message today is we've got to find answers and if 1400 is the number of pets we ought to be taking in 4 000 is an unacceptable number and we need to figure out how to reduce that number and reduce the overall expense to the taxpayer for managing this problem so I don't believe there's any action that needs to be taken today is that correct so no action will be taken on this item today and so once again thank you and um help try to solve the problem thank you ma'am I think there's someone who wants to speak in the back oh yes please come forward anyone who would like to offer comment please do how much time dot dot just remember all my questions or is it a discussion since it's on the agenda the comment is for you to provide your comments to council I'm with District Five would you talk more into that microphone thank you um jatankies District Five uh with closing the shelter I think that's unrealistic because I know they've had a

[1:55:14] program where they say a Good Samaritan citizen you know Good Samaritan act where you keep it for three days and then if somebody says well I've had this thought for three days oh it's yours now that's not but you can't the dog's just leaving them roaming you know they do go out in the street unless you're out in the country and there's no streets available um but they they're just wandering around getting pregnant is what's happening so I just think that's unrealistic to close it um also I y'all talked about citations a backlog and all that we've had the spay neuter ordinance for a long time seven years now people know that they're supposed to have it done and when those dogs are released why can we not just give them a post-dated citation that becomes effective when they don't they don't bring the proof back saying well I messed up I've got to show this that this is this is done now and all the ones that are still there if they don't have proof just send the citation now instead of researching just send it and let those people get back to us made a good comment I want to have Teresa answer that one comment that I thought was very good about a post-dated citation is that legal no it's really not legal to issue somebody a citation for a violation that they have not yet committed so we it's it's not spayed or neutered and it's there at the shelter but they give them time to do that we we don't have we used to have a vet but that didn't work out at the shelter so we can't do it at the shelter so that's why there's a program to allow them to have a certain amount of time I wouldn't support that and you're adopting an animal you know no you I mean you do have to give them the time but I'm talking about people that come and pick up their dog they're already in I think that's the process that we are looking at doing citations quicker on those folks and then there's still a whole as people think there's a citation and immediately goes to court there's a whole side of that on my end that happens and I think you know citations that are written now might be heard in April or May so we work in my office to gather information to allow people still to remedy the violation if they can and then dismiss

[1:57:18] it to kind of lower the number of cases that are at court but we can't like post date a citation we are addressing those folks that have Strays that come in and and that we do issue citations and I think that's part of what Morgan's talking about okay um oh have with the mess that's had here have we do we have an official cleaning protocol done that has it's established I I want to say that and then with the numbers with the six people how many of those six people are for just cleaning for those nine minutes I thought she said it was just three that were for I think all six correct me if I'm wrong but I think all six that she listed there were in fact only for cleaning she has other staff at the shelter but their jobs are not to clean so those she's budgeted for eight of the eight she's been able to hire six and those six do nothing but clean for just cleaning and then somebody else does the feeding or do they do it at the same time answer a question I don't have the part of it the part of the nine minutes is feeding included with that ending no a different staffer is feeding medical this is just cleaning I only listed cleaning staff for the nine minute cleaning time is what is setting that capacity the six and that you have and then the a that you're wanting correct okay um the assessing do they have some does they have they partnered with somebody to have somebody qualified for the assessing because you were talking about a dog that comes in and oh this dog's

[1:59:21] growling at me and you found out it's really the owners that surrendered it but that's not always the case it's they're scared and do they have other than walking them in with the catch pole well they're growling oh they're scared do they have somebody that's trying to assess them the dogs for for their temperament and is that separate from the cleaning staff yes I would say separate than cleaning but Morgan you might want to talk to those growling dog um I mean when you take an animal into an animal shelter they're going to smell other dogs I mean just I mean right I mean this is really outside the scope of public comment we should just be hearing her comments and not responding to each of them individually I will stop talking okay I thought you were able to respond when it's on the agenda just comments from the public is what we're doing okay okay well I want to urge that closing the shelter is not an answer something has to be done for that part thank you for your comments Mary Casper I'm not in the city but I'm close enough to the city that yeah I get dogs dropped off generally my question is how many frequent flyer owners do you have indoor dogs or this are a lot of the dogs the same dogs a lot of them the same owners whose dogs habitually get out and run around and when do you put a stop to that or can you put a stop to that Morgan can you answer that question or again I'm supposed to stop talking sorry just trying to address the issues and answer some questions for people so but sorry they can have the conversation after okay Mary were you finished with your

[2:01:26] comments though I mean were you finished with your comments I know you asked a good question it's to be such a big problem repeat offenders you know so something I would think to have another conversation about stop talking Brenda okay other public comment [Music] seeing none we will conclude this conversation and move on to Let's see we are not doing item C so we are going to go into the closed session executive session on the provision of government code title V open government ethics subtitle a open government chapter 551 open meeting sub chapter D exceptions to requirement that meetings be open under the following sections a section 551 0.072 deliberations about real property regarding 122.36 Acres that'll survey 644 abstract 1881 W spornhon and out of survey 645 abstract 4212 Czech and B section 551.074 personal matters regarding the evaluation discipline or dismissal of John Barrio from the coast of DC board and item c section 551.071 consultation with attorney regarding Cosa DC yes Tommy I'd also like to remove from considerations Item B and C um may I ask council members if they wish to support Tommy's request to remove Item B and C I do is there any opposition to that request

[2:03:30] no opposition with that we will now uh Adam Mayer yes yes sir as a point of order under that same section you just quoted on this item thank you for those who are pulling it but I did officially notify the city clerk on Friday uh I believe that was the 28th and pursuant to the local government court code Pardon Me section 551.074 as the individual person and name subject of the above reference city council agenda item I respectfully submit this formal request to compel the city council to move any and all discussion deliberation process or other actions on this Personnel matter matter pardon me out of closed session and into public hearing during the conduct of Council on November 1st 2022. yeah just regularly scheduled ma'am when Tommy made the request and nobody wants to have it considered today then it's not going to be considered in I agree it's not going to be considered but as a matter of law it will not be discussed okay uh this request was submitted to the city clerk and she did not intervene at the time that the agenda item was read and I think that is a legal matter and I appreciate all the state officials who are observing this meeting for this particular purpose thank you I'm not I'm not sure what that last comment meant but I would like to um say at this time I do think there is a need for training both with city council and the co-cityc on the laws the statutes the rules the Articles of Incorporation the bylaws all of those things I think there's a lot of talking past each other on some of those things so I've talked to Brandon about doing a joint training with city council and co-cdc sometime after the New Year to make sure that everybody's on the same page so before we go into executive session to discuss the the land item I would like to state that that is something that I would desire to do I

[2:05:32] think that's a great idea I think there's been a lot of misinformation put out there so I think that's I think it's definitely warranted so thank you for that so we will be going into executive session I'm following our closed session at this moment there are no announcements to be made from the closed session so we will now move into follow-up and administrative issues um that's item a we as I said there is nothing to announce Item B consideration of approving various board nominations airport Advisory Board Joseph Rallo for the Mayor Bruce partain smd-1 to a second term Teresa special smd2 and William Pritchard SMD six to a third term all ending October 2024 may I have a motion for approval some who by Harry second second by Tom any public comment concerning those nominations with none we'll take a vote all in favor say aye with no Nays motion passes and then item C announcements in consideration of future agenda items are there any none might have a motion for a German so I'll move by Tommy second by Tom a vote for dismissal everybody we in agreement all right you got it we are now adjourned at 11 23 23.

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